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Jellyfish

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Well, that's just not true. It just makes a convenient excuse for the current shit show.
 

packerfan79

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Well, that's just not true. It just makes a convenient excuse for the current shit show.

Name 1 honest politician. In order to be elected they have to lie. It starts day one, technically before, when they promise the moon on the campaign trail, but can in no way deliver.
 

Gry

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A lot of money is spent to assure that such feelings would be widespread.

Ralph Nader was the first name that came to mind.

Hope the day is a good one for you and yours.
 
Name 1 honest politician. In order to be elected they have to lie. It starts day one, technically before, when they promise the moon on the campaign trail, but can in no way deliver.

Yeah man but the level of lying, alternative facts, contorting of obvious truths and gaslighting that has been going on with this administration is astronomically higher then ever in history. Trump seems hell bent on out nixoning nixon in every area old tricky dick seems like a choir boy compared to trump. It's depressing to see how easily people can be fooled and brain washed so easily over the last few years. For Christs sake this dude says one thing and then totally contradicts himself in the same sentence routinely, which convinces me even more that he has multiple personalities.

Ftr I'm a independent and have sided with either party on positions that line up with mine. If he was a Democrat doing and saying the things he has I'd still be criticising him just the same. His dictorial aspirations are what I find most troubling especially when he opines about having more than two terms.
 
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Jellyfish

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Name 1 honest politician. In order to be elected they have to lie. It starts day one, technically before, when they promise the moon on the campaign trail, but can in no way deliver.

Sounds like you've got your mind made up. So be it.:laughing:
 
Name 1 honest politician. In order to be elected they have to lie. It starts day one, technically before, when they promise the moon on the campaign trail, but can in no way deliver.

Bro we aren't really talking about campaign promises. With John Barron and David Dennison and dotard we are talking about compulsive, ludicrous easily disproved falsehoods. Trump has no peer as the Babe Ruth of bullshit.

Has any other potus founded his political identity by a creepy fucked up lie intended to harness racial resentment? How about any other potus whose first act was to settle a fraud lawsuit against his own business? Any other potus who is so defiantly ridiculous as to lie about his inauguration crowd? How about any other potus who is gonna "release his tax returns after audit".

Trumps straight-up lies, his wildly ignorant claims and misleading characterizations are on a level of their own. What potus has 3 known aliases? Every potus might make false claims but trump made 3000 of them in one year.
Apologists for trump claiming that he is no different than others share trumps comfort with distorting facts and ease with repeating falsehood.
 

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Arguing with them is a total waste of time. Better to just provide facts and and let them lead to a logical conclusion. That's what the big smoke show is all about - Trying to bury facts in a much bigger pile of bullshit. Truth and facts should be above all and anyone (including spray paint face) trying to dodge the truth or lying should be challenged especially if they are in positions of responsibility.

PF is right to a large degree. Take any politician and lookout their net worth and places they lived while holding public offices. After they have been in look at ho they are living and try to figure out how that's possible on the salary they received. The thing is tat this one is really screwing us with the Russians and Moron Largo and on and on...
 

packerfan79

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Arguing with them is a total waste of time. Better to just provide facts and and let them lead to a logical conclusion. That's what the big smoke show is all about - Trying to bury facts in a much bigger pile of bullshit. Truth and facts should be above all and anyone (including spray paint face) trying to dodge the truth or lying should be challenged especially if they are in positions of responsibility.

PF is right to a large degree. Take any politician and lookout their net worth and places they lived while holding public offices. After they have been in look at ho they are living and try to figure out how that's possible on the salary they received. The thing is tat this one is really screwing us with the Russians and Moron Largo and on and on...

The Russian investigation is only showing that the more they look the more they show, that Obama/Clinton were the ones colluding to obstruct a duly elected president. It clearly is a witch hunt. I belive 2 fun agents resigned a few days ago. Why? Because they were as crooked as Hillary. And crooked for Hillary.
 

Doc D

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The Russian investigation is only showing that the more they look the more they show, that Obama/Clinton were the ones colluding to obstruct a duly elected president. It clearly is a witch hunt. I belive 2 fun agents resigned a few days ago. Why? Because they were as crooked as Hillary. And crooked for Hillary.

Trump admin...

23 indictments and 5 have already pleaded guilty.

4 years of Benghazi hearings and FBI investigations with ZERO indictments. Hmmm....
 

Zeez

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Sinclair sound bytes brought to you by Fox News. No basis in reality.
 
The Russian investigation is only showing that the more they look the more they show, that Obama/Clinton were the ones colluding to obstruct a duly elected president.First Mueller convict reports to prison
Dutch attorney Alex van der Zwaan turned himself in Monday after being sentenced for lying to investigators I belive 2 fun agents resigned a few days ago
. Why? Because they were as crooked as Hillary. And crooked for Hillary.

*believe

Gullible regurgitator of desperate alt right bullshit, that load of crap stinks like a overstuffed struggleville adult diaper.

Trump is so disastrously inept that his russia -moneylaundering-collusion-lying crimes are a just a part of his overall failure as a leader, husband, father and human being. His dull, vile speech, hobbled psychological development and crippled intellect are a constant liability to our country. In real time trump shits like a goat all over the dignity of the presidency. Meanwhile youre gulping down kool ade for the poorly educated. Your phony beliefs get mocked and dismissed because you slavishly repeat trumps message to the common idiot.
 

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packerfan79

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Why hasn’t your boy Trump put Clinton in jail yet? It’s his appointee that runs the FBI...

If Clinton is so all-powerful why did she lose the election to Donald the dotard.

Because sessions is a schmuck. Duh . Clinton lost because she was the worst candidate in history.

Republicans don't want Hillary to go anywhere, Every time she opens her mouth voters remember why they voted for Trump. Hillary may as well be working for the RNC.
 

packerfan79

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*believe

Gullible regurgitator of desperate alt right bullshit, that load of crap stinks like a overstuffed struggleville adult diaper.

Trump is so disastrously inept that his russia -moneylaundering-collusion-lying crimes are a just a part of his overall failure as a leader, husband, father and human being. His dull, vile speech, hobbled psychological development and crippled intellect are a constant liability to our country. In real time trump shits like a goat all over the dignity of the presidency. Meanwhile youre gulping down kool ade for the poorly educated. Your phony beliefs get mocked and dismissed because you slavishly repeat trumps message to the common idiot.

I would say basically the same about the democrats, their whole platform is fuck Trump. Those "common idiots " are Ameri cans. The difference is we don't get petty and call you idiots. The left is the party of hate, they hate anyone who disagrees with them. They are not capable of debating their ideas.

Again Russia is a nothing burger. Even hardcore leftist know this, but it's all they have. They have no grasp on the issues so they name call like children. Muller is getting taken to task by 2 judges in the past week. It's an affront to democracy when an out going administration uses the fbi,and doj to try to stop a duly elected President. It's a coup, these things are not the hallmark of democracy.

Also when you accuse anyone right of Marx, as alt-right you give a platform to a group of a few thousand racist, authoritarians, who like the left don't belive in the constitution, and do belive in identity politics. The left and the alt right have a lot in common. They both belive in shutting down what they disagree with. Extremism is extremism doesn't matter what side.
 

Doc D

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Because sessions is a schmuck. Duh . Clinton lost because she was the worst candidate in history.

Republicans don't want Hillary to go anywhere, Every time she opens her mouth voters remember why they voted for Trump. Hillary may as well be working for the RNC.

You’re choking on kool-aid...

Session runs the justice department, not the FBI. Regardless, crooked Trump could replace Sessions or Wray (the current FBI director appointed by Trump) anytime he wants... seems like you got conned by don.

Clinton was a shitty candidate, but you seem to think she has the power to do the impossible, except when she can’t.
 
I would say basically the same about the democrats, their whole platform is fuck Trump. Those "common idiots " are Ameri cans. The difference is we don't get petty and call you idiotsThe left is the party of hate, they hate anyone who disagrees with them. They are not capable of debating their ideas.

Again Russia is a nothing burger. Even hardcore leftist know this, but it's all they have. They have no grasp on the issues so they name call like children. Muller is getting taken to task by 2 judges in the past week. It's an affront to democracy when an out going administration uses the fbi,and doj to try to stop a duly elected President. It's a coup, these things are not the hallmark of democracy.

Also when you accuse anyone right of Marx, as alt-right you give a platform to a group of a few thousand racist, authoritarians, who like the left don't belive in the constitution, and do belive in identity politics. The left and the alt right have a lot in common. They both belive in shutting down what they disagree with. Extremism is extremism doesn't matter what side.

*believe. :tiphat: "the left don't belive in the constitution" "The left is the party of hate, they hate"

"It's all they have"? Dolt, trump has shit everywhere, Russia is a single slice of trumps goat shit pie. Where the fuck have you shoved your head?

You're all doped up on bone spur bro. The whataboutism, false equivalent logic is as phony and disposable as trumps promises. As stated above your logic and beliefs are pablum youve been fed by your desperate, paranoid bigot idols. Your rant is discredited, dated, rehashed crap. It merits zero credibility.
 
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packerfan79

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You’re choking on kool-aid...

Session runs the justice department, not the FBI. Regardless, crooked Trump could replace Sessions or Wray (the current FBI director appointed by Trump) anytime he wants... seems like you got conned by don.

Clinton was a shitty candidate, but you seem to think she has the power to do the impossible, except when she can’t.

You have no clue what you are talking about. The dems want Trump to fire sessions, just like they wanted comey gone.

I would say people voting for welfare benefits and Obama care, over jobs and tax cuts are the people drinking kool aide. Lol that's a good one.
 
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