Trump administration hints at ‘greater enforcement’ of marijuana laws

[HazyBulldog]

Who doesn't think Venezuela is socialist again? How about we hear from somebody experiencing it first hand? (notice I didn't say pure socialist, but socialist none the less)

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/0...rs-video-series-describing-my-socialist-hell/

Venezuelan YouTuber starts video series describing ‘my socialist hell’

 

[seeded]

Do I think we as a society have the right to impinge on the breeding rights of others? Fuck yeah. Specieism has been used in the past and present to enslave black people, subjugate women and trash the environment and any species of non human animals it contains.Btw, the third biggest river in New Zealand has has just been granted the same legal rights as humans. The local indigenous tribe has fought for the river for years and now if it's abused the law sees no difference between harming the river or harming the tribe, because they are one and the same. I just don't follow the logic that the species causing all the cruelty, suffering and environmental destruction is somehow superior. I live in the mountains and there's always animals being killed by cars, and they are just pushed to the side of the road. But quite a few motor bike riders also die, confusing ambition with ability, and the road gets closed for the rest of the day, half a dozen ambulances and cops turn up and investigate the scene, like some kind of crime against humanity has just been committed At the end of the day we all live and die, human animals and non human animals alike, and we are all connected and part of the one beautiful whole. No one species is any better than any other.

As for living in a mud hut with no wifi, well I'm working towards that. A few acres further out in the mountains were I'll plant an orchard, put in a vegie patch and either build a mud brick house or put up a glass yert. I plan on getting a long way from all you crazy white people and living out my days with as much bliss as I muster, in peace and quite with dog. I suggest you get up into the mountains and clear your mind and feel the hum of the Earth, the hum of you and feel your connection to all. It's a beautiful thing and you just can't harm something you love

I get the circle of life, we're all the one energy, etc. I really do. What you don't seem to get is that anything above your absolute minimum requirements for survival is basically you saying fuck you to the Earth. Take the yurt you want for example. It's construction requires the mining and refining of minerals from the ground and then you need to not only stake your claim on another piece of ground but you then need to defend it against any unwanted foreigners like snakes, spiders and scorpions that try to move in. You're putting you and yours first because you believe you're worth more than another species.... Nazi

Nazi jokes aside you're right about us needing to protect the earth but do you see anyone stepping up and saying we need to set hard limits on what is an acceptable lifetime carbon footprint before you have your state mandated euthanasia? Would it be more paletable if people were offered double to go child free? How would you feel if the allowed carbon footprint was calculated based on some super hippy african tribe that had a life expectancy of 60 and every night you had an led lamp on for a few hours it took two whole days off your life? The more we go back to basics the more people the Earth can carry so at what point does it become acceptable to have luxuries like being able to see at night and not die for it when it comes at the cost of the earth carrying another soul? How much suffering are you willing to inflict on the human race so the rest of the planet can experience the increase in life that will result because getting back as close as we can to nature is where the wealth is really at right? It's totally not in electricity generation, indoor plumbing and other abuses of nature right?

Now since I'm on the topic what would you do if you were a true believer in power that didn't want to go down as the next Hitler or worse in the history books? Personally I'd treat humans like my seed stash by dividing them up and promoting multiculturalism so that when a weaponized flu strikes down 90% of the population there would be enough survivors with a decent quality of life to continue ruling over. They totally wouldn't do that now would they?

 

[OneStonedPony]

When I said both sides. I meant pro environmental groups, and people or businesses wanting less regulation. Not political parties as in Democrat's or Republicans.

You've got to admitt, the EPA wanting to fine farmers for kicking up dust when they ployed their fields was too much. Governors should appoint a three judge panel, to sit in on, and help both sides come to a concensus.

Then make State Representatives hear, and act on, what the citizens with the help of those judges (you know to help hammer out legal guidelines and regulations) present for their particular state.

What works in one state, doesn't in another, and each has specific issues that have to be worked out. A one size fits all, force this shit down your throat approach, will never work. Each state must oversee it's environmental issues, and citizens should debate, and workout the details themselves. Governor's should lean on State Rep's to work off those citizen suggestions only, and not allow PAC's or other paid groups to dominate the agenda. You know, government working for the people, not dictating to them on behalf of their sponsors (corporations).

But we have to demand this, because in the current state, government is just a bunch of self serving assholes (most not all), who dance for dollars from corporations that fund their next campaign for office. Two words: Term Limits

 

[Crusader Rabbit]

Overpopulation is a myth also.

You know everybody on the planet, standing side by side, would only cover the island of Hawaii? Over 70% of land on the earth is not heavily populated.

All the good spots are taken. It's difficult to make a living in some places. There's a reason why hardly anybody lives in Greenland or the middle of the Sahara Desert.

 

[packerfan79]

I thought this thread was about weed?

 

[Crusader Rabbit]

I thought this thread was about weed?

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]All the good spots are taken. Agriculture is difficult in some places. There's a reason why hardly anybody grows pot in Greenland or the middle of the Sahara Desert.[/FONT]

 

[Cannavore]

Who doesn't think Venezuela is socialist again? How about we hear from somebody experiencing it first hand? (notice I didn't say pure socialist, but socialist none the less)

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/0...rs-video-series-describing-my-socialist-hell/

Venezuelan YouTuber starts video series describing ‘my socialist hell’

most of south america is corrupt to the bone. venezuela is no exception.


Gaio begins by saying that his government is not actually a government, it is more accurately a dictatorship.
ding ding ding ding ding we have a winner. more accurately it is a centrally planned military dictatorship.

"He says they are running the country as a socialist one, but as Gaio says “if you take a look at history, socialism never worked.”

“Take a look at the USSR. Take a look at Romania,” says Gaio. “Take a look at all the eastern European countries that were run by socialism during the 70’s and 80’s. They don’t have these forms of government anymore.”

^^ again that isnt socialism, or communism.

socialism can be summed up as a state of WORKER (not governmental or private) ownership of business, production, ect.

communism in a nutshell is a stateless and classless society



notice how objectors to "socialism" always use negative examples of what they think is socialism, and not the countries that are considered "democratic socialist" that have the best quality of living, happinness index, welfare, health care, education, strong anti corruption laws, and on and on it goes.

 

[Meraxes]

I thought this thread was about weed?

merx moment

 

[Betterhaff]

All the good spots are taken. It's difficult to make a living in some places. There's a reason why hardly anybody lives in Greenland or the middle of the Sahara Desert.

I had a professor for economic botany way back and he believed the ultimate war will not be over money, food, oil/energy, religion or ideals…but over fresh water.

 

[Genghis Kush]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population

It is estimated that the world population reached one billion for the first time in 1804.

It was another 123 years before it reached two billion in 1927,

but it took only 33 years to reach three billion in 1960.

Thereafter, the global population reached four billion in 1974,

five billion in 1987,

six billion in 1999

and, according to the United States Census Bureau, seven billion in March 2012.



According to current projections, the global population will reach eight billion by 2024,

and will likely reach around nine billion by 2037.

Alternative scenarios for 2050 range from a low of 7.4 billion to a high of more than 10.6 billion.

Projected figures vary depending on underlying statistical assumptions and the variables used in projection calculations, especially the fertility variable.

Long-range predictions to 2150 range from a population decline to 3.2 billion in the "low scenario", to "high scenarios" of 24.8 billion.

 

[Genghis Kush]

so what happens when there is a second kid? you know nature takes its course, life finds a way? what then? who decides? do the rich have to follow the same rules? how has it worked in China?

I dont have any answers as to how such a policy could be implemented.
though I do have many ideas.


the rate of population growth has basically leveled off in the U.S, Europe and the Middle East.
Sub Saharan Africa, East Asia and South Asia population growth is out of hand.

just saying that if we don't cull our own herd than mother nature will do it for us.

Also, that all of the issues we have concerning the Earths resources have their roots in the rate of population growth and that until we focus on that we will always be dealing with an endless stream of symptoms .

 

[mexcurandero420]

Before you know we will grow more marijuana than food crops.
It would be terrible if we have enough to smoke but no food to still the munchies.

Keep on growing

 

[Meraxes]

So we need to stop having sex?.

 

[Betterhaff]

Ha…long way to go there (pics).

If China wasn’t so backward with their approach to agriculture in the 20th century they could be feeding the world today along with themselves.

 

[Genghis Kush]

"The bottles stand as empty, as they were filled before.

Time there was and plenty, but from that cup no more.

Though I could not caution all, I still might warn a few:

Don't lend your hand to raise no flag atop no ship of fools."
-grateful dead

 

[Tudo]

so what happens when there is a second kid? you know nature takes its course, life finds a way? what then? who decides? do the rich have to follow the same rules? how has it worked in China?

Depends on how much $$ you have

 

[gaiusmarius]

Depends on how much $$ you have

that was my point.
also in China it had the effect of people killing their girls because they could only have 1 child and preferred that 1 to be male. not to forget the forced abortions and punitive measures they meet out to the poor who break their rules and can't pay the fine. what fun eh? some roads shouldn't even be considered among decent human beings.

all reasearch shows that all you have to do is increase standard of living and like magic folks have less kids all by them selves, to the point where European countries actually need some immigration just to keep the pension funds running as the locals are having less and less kids.

 

[Genghis Kush]

that was my point.
also in China it had the effect of people killing their girls because they could only have 1 child and preferred that 1 to be male. not to forget the forced abortions and punitive measures they meet out to the poor who break their rules and can't pay the fine. what fun eh? some roads shouldn't even be considered among decent human beings.

all reasearch shows that all you have to do is increase standard of living and like magic folks have less kids all by them selves, to the point where European countries actually need some immigration just to keep the pension funds running as the locals are having less and less kids.

The standard of living that we currently enjoy is based largely on the exploitation of the third world.

If you raise everyone to the same level globally than the standard will fall in the U.S and Europe.

How do you propose achieving that goal?

Probably wouldn't be much fun for those who have to lower their standard of living, right?

It would require major government intervention and sanctions.

Making claims about peoples sense of decency as if you hold some moral higher ground dose nothing to solve the problems at hand.

Letting some woman in India have ten kids when they are completely impoverished is as foolish as can be.
And so is thinking that someone is going to raise their standard of living anytime soon.

 

[subrob]

I thought this thread was about weed?

Way to regulate

Do you hold all politicians to the same standard?

 

[Genghis Kush]

Way to regulate

Do you hold all politicians to the same standard?

too many people and not enough weed