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Tried and true method. 99.9% every time.

Ca++

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I got lost. Took cuts, then days later took them again. Having been in water. Whatever that means. I'm unsure where the day counting begins.

Any feed before the half strength at the first watering? This is where I notice some difference in what we do, that has significance beyond the drier substrate. I feed from the off, as I don't expect to see them again until rooted. I know this is very wet, and air matters a lot. After 2 weeks my water must be low on oxygen, a key ingredient. Aeroponic like treatment gets these fast numbers. The water maintenance. Them coco-sponge blocks are worth a few days compared to soil/rockwool, though people do mess about with squeezing rockwool to gain a few days also. It's labour intensive though. Where-as the coco sponge can just be watered flood and drain, and not be waterlogged.

One near insanity I see, is cuts in clay pebbles (online), misted from below. The feelings of insanity might be all mine, but does that really work? It seems impossible, when people want to stop air being taken in. The root zone is simply humid. Somethings not right in that picture.
 

H e d g e

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The only problem I ever had taking cuts was using old clonex, they all died. I now keep it in the fridge.

It’s not difficult to clone weed regardless of the method, I get the same survival rate in compost as I did using those plugs and compost is free.

What made the biggest difference for me was preparing the plant before taking cuts, not so much the survival rate as the vigour of the clone, the difference is huge.

I remove fans leaves and new growth from the node I plan to cut through, wait three days, then take the cut. The stem fattens up significantly, you get a sturdy vigorous clone every time with this method.
 

FTL

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The only problem I ever had taking cuts was using old clonex, they all died. I now keep it in the fridge.

It’s not difficult to clone weed regardless of the method, I get the same survival rate in compost as I did using those plugs and compost is free.

What made the biggest difference for me was preparing the plant before taking cuts, not so much the survival rate as the vigour of the clone, the difference is huge.

I remove fans leaves and new growth from the node I plan to cut through, wait three days, then take the cut. The stem fattens up significantly, you get a sturdy vigorous clone every time with this method.
Yep it’s not rocket surgery
 
The only problem I ever had taking cuts was using old clonex, they all died. I now keep it in the fridge.

It’s not difficult to clone weed regardless of the method, I get the same survival rate in compost as I did using those plugs and compost is free.

What made the biggest difference for me was preparing the plant before taking cuts, not so much the survival rate as the vigour of the clone, the difference is huge.

I remove fans leaves and new growth from the node I plan to cut through, wait three days, then take the cut. The stem fattens up significantly, you get a sturdy vigorous clone every time with this method.
Been growing for two decades and I’ve never had any issues with clonex at room temp. You might have just had a bad batch brotha 🤷🏼‍♂️
 

H e d g e

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Been growing for two decades and I’ve never had any issues with clonex at room temp. You might have just had a bad batch brotha 🤷🏼‍♂️
It worked fine for the first half of the bottle so maybe it just got contaminated and it makes no difference putting it the fridge.

I had nothing to use instead at the time and needed the clones so made a replacement batch with just water in compost and they all took.

I’ve heard others complain about old clonex, could also be you get through so many clones the stuff doesn’t last long enough to get old at room temperature?
 
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Ca++

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Aloe Vera for pudding?
I'm not coming to your house


Most root gels make an issue of decanting some to use, and then discarding that. The Clonex, iirc, expects you to use the whole thing in one go. Which is a bit crazy. It's better to decant some, and don't put it back, as clonex isn't a mold inhibitor. I have heard of old stuff being no good, and people always getting a new one to do a few trays.
I haven't been that impressed with it, and will seal the cut with it, then go into rooting powder (which is useless to us on it's own) and the combination is about as good as baby bio roota, if you keep things clean. That roota is now illegal in the UK, but does exist in the states. It's primarily a fungicide. Not a hormone. 1-naphthylacetic acid.

A used scalpels for years, but having seen the success rate of blunt scissors, I adopted sharp ones myself. I have seen no difference, except how easy it is. I run wet anyway, so no 45 degree cuts to maximise water exposure. I'm not getting wilting. There are no crushing problems with our rope plants. From all angles, sharp scissors have been thought through, and proven. Though if you want to run dry from day 1, you might be better with a well judged 45. Which is where this thread is at
 

FTL

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It worked fine for the first half of the bottle so maybe it just got contaminated and it makes no difference putting it the fridge.

I had nothing to use instead at the time and needed the clones so made a replacement batch with just water in compost and they all took.

I’ve heard others complain about old clonex, could also be you get through so many clones the stuff doesn’t last long enough to get old at room temperature?
If you dip the cut into the clonex botle it can contaminate it.

Best practice imo is to empty what you will need into a shot glass then dip cuts into that. What you don’t finish throw away, don’t double dip ;)

Edit: just saw c++ replied the same info as I was typing this/ eating breakfast
 

H e d g e

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If you dip the cut into the clonex botle it can contaminate it.

Best practice imo is to empty what you will need into a shot glass then dip cuts into that. What you don’t finish throw away, don’t double dip ;)

Edit: just saw c++ replied the same info as I was typing this/ eating breakfast
Yeah, this is basically what I do except I find you don’t need as much if you pour a bit onto a plastic bag than using a shot glass. Less waste.
 
It worked fine for the first half of the bottle so maybe it just got contaminated and it makes no difference putting it the fridge.

I had nothing to use instead at the time and needed the clones so made a replacement batch with just water in compost and they all took.

I’ve heard others complain about old clonex, could also be you get through so many clones the stuff doesn’t last long enough to get old at room temperature?
I do pour out what I need I never dip directly from bottle and one small bottle will last me 6-8 months. Idk friend 🤷🏼‍♂️
 
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