Transkei

[Roms]

In the book Cannabis: Evolution and Ethnobotany by Clarke and a wizard called Merlin they present pollen evidence for cannabis in Madagascar and the Coast of Africa by 2000BP, so that part probably happened. I think you can read the book in google books.

In the book they also speculate that Moroccan cannabis might be a hybrid of NLD and European hemp. I think this is likely taking into consideration how far pollen can travel, you've all heard the Spanish example. Personally I think cannabis in Africa has at least two main sources, probably three. (Middle East, India, SE-Asia.

I tend to put a lot of emphasis on the massive neolithic (agricultural) expansion from the Middle East in pre-historic times. It left genetic traces on all African populations, including the Khoi-San. Cannabis was certainly known in Egypt in biblical times, this might not have been WLD indica though, no one knows when exactly this sub-variety was bred but it probably happened on the Iranian plateau from where agriculture spread southwards to India as well as the steppes in the north.

Yah Thule, Sumer is the building block of our history cause written evidence etc... Older civilizations had an oral transmission of culture so no writings or alphabets... I think about the old Khoisan culture yes but also about North European pre-Celtics and Hyperborea...


Btw TanzanianMagic's quote about South Africa...

The standard interpretation after the Human Genome Project is that:

a) The Bushmen/San have the oldest Y-chromosome haplogroup of all living humans, Haplogroup A.

b) The Spencer Wells (Genographic Project) interpretation is that the Bushmen are the oldest population group, that their universal features (Black, Asian, European) are the source of most variability today, and that this is because are closest to the original Homo Sapiens population that left Africa an archaeologically short 60,000 years ago.

Homo Sapiens has been around for 200,000 years, and apparently didn't interbreed with other contemporanious homonids.

It is clear that it is genetic diversity that is the key to adaptability to many different environments in a generalist species like Homo Sapiens.

Remember that racism and scientific racism depend on the Multi-Regional Theory of human evolution, in other words, modern humans arising out of long separated and highly genetically differentiated populations of homonids (Homo Erectus in Africa, Homo Neanderthalensis in Europe, etc.). The Genographic Project drove a stake through the heart of all that. https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=4816080&postcount=22

So i would say that would be favorable to study and associate Cannabis with Human Genome Project!

 

[CannaZen]

This is a much greater subject suitable for another thread. I think it is very interesting, possibly valuable if the evidence can be creditable. Gobekli Tepe, of turkey, dates early civilization to the 8'th to tenth millennium BC if i understand correctly.

I agree that cannabis likely arose and spread coinciding with human civilization and to this i add that this could possibly be confirmed basing it on the ancient Egyptians alone as Gobekli Tepe is considerably older and relatively nearby this area. In a documentary, i've heard this site to have contained ephedrine, cannabis and poppy but i am not sure if that was the same dig site or not.. it may have been a site closer to india. The documentary in particular was pertaining to a civilization that had seeded india and predated the Egyptians IIRC.

 

[Nader]

Right now, I am doing an open pollination of some Transkei land race that my S. African friend sent me. He had to trek a couple days and nights in the mud to find some pure unfuckedwith genetics.

Wish me luck! I am excited.

 

[kokomarin]

Good luck!

 

[CannaZen]

Gimoney crickets!

Open pollinated seeds from south africa, Your friend sent you? I am jealous! Let us know how you find them, Landrace truebreed sought after.. maybe you can do a production for the seed-boutique.

very befuddled sensimilla was not recognizable for application, i received many seeds from the males as i recollect pollen contaminated all flowers. Do you share photos?

 

[acdc]

Right now, I am doing an open pollination of some Transkei land race that my S. African friend sent me. He had to trek a couple days and nights in the mud to find some pure unfuckedwith genetics.

Wish me luck! I am excited.

now I'm jealous but good luck sent to you

 

[William76]

I was gifted 2 pure landrace from s. Africa,transkie was 1,possibly rooibard the other,i grew 1 of each out(in a room full of indicas)they were pure sativas/landrace,ill have to get back to them when i can,with conditions more suited to sativas.76