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[acespicoli]

#2 was unselected skunk #1 was to the sweet side

Garlic x 9 week Haze by earth witch

B. Early Haze (B. Early Haze/Afghani (Mazar Red Hair)) x A. Gold

North Indian Indica refers to cannabis strains native to the northern regions of India, particularly areas like Jammu and Kashmir.
While many regions in North India tend to have short-flowering, high-altitude sativa cultivars, some pure Indica landraces can be found, especially in Jammu and Kashmir.
These Indica strains are known for their calming and relaxing effects, often used for pain relief and sleep.

Manga Rosa
Ice (Probably) »»» ICE x Shiva

• • »»» ICE x Shiva
• ICE
  
  • »»» Afghan x Skunk #1 x Northern Light

Shiva »»» Indien x Unknown Strain (Nirvana Seeds)

White Widow (De Sjamaan)

Brasilien (Original Strains) x Indien (Original Strains)

North Indian Indica refers to cannabis strains native to the northern regions of India, particularly areas like Jammu and Kashmir. While many regions in North India tend to have short-flowering, high-altitude sativa cultivars, some pure Indica landraces can be found, especially in Jammu and Kashmir. These Indica strains are known for their calming and relaxing effects, often used for pain relief and sleep.

Indien Afghani #2 Purple. was interesting

 

[stinkybudz420]

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Trinity
Genetics: ‘76 Afghan x Master Kush (Hindu Kush x Skunk #1)

This short, thick marijuana plant produces well in small spaces forming single cola making it a good choice for sea of green and vertical grow systems. Thanks to its big fan leaves, the canopy closes quickly and is recommended to be kept short, with plenty of room underneath for air to move. This helps the plant to focus its energy on development of the terminal colas. The flavour is the earthy and sweet, with hashy overtones on the exhale. A clear-headed, cheerful high develops into a mellow contentment. A great all-around weed, with the flavour and effect that will leave the permanent smile on your face.

Genetics: ‘76 Afghan x Master Kush (Hindu Kush x Skunk #1)
Type: 90% Indica / 10% Sativa
Yield: Medium - High
Harvest: 8 - 9wks / beginning Oct
Stature: Short

I would absolutely love to grow some real trinity. I've never had it by itself but I love Afghani and master kush and espiritu sanctum (trinity x triangle kush) . There's just no way I wouldn't love it.

 

[acespicoli]

Trinity she was ok on this run but im gonna try her again maybe, can do better

Clone Only Strains Description​

Variety: 75% Sativa, 25% Indica

Three-way hybrid of Northern California strains. The Trinity was bred in Wichita, Kansas and imported to Montana by Jeremy P.
He then shared it with friends in Oregon.
I have one of the last original mother plants of the Trinity which I have nurtured and shared with other local Caregivers.
All things good come from the Trinity.

 

[stinkybudz420]

What's the 3 strains? Afghan , hindu kush and skunk?

 

[Littleleaf]

What I remember the most from the skunk seeds I was given in 84 was that they were huge. Almost as big as a popcorn kernel. That and that my best friend got busted with a 6' plant with dinnerplate sized leaf. His neighbor called animal control to come look for a skunk.

Are the sk1 seeds still large in size?

 

[acespicoli]

What's the 3 strains? Afghan , hindu kush and skunk?

The three are usually designated as

(afghani x columbian) x mexican = skunk

 

[acespicoli]

What I remember the most from the skunk seeds I was given in 84 was that they were huge. Almost as big as a popcorn kernel. That and that my best friend got busted with a 6' plant with dinnerplate sized leaf. His neighbor called animal control to come look for a skunk.

Are the sk1 seeds still large in size?

SamS seeds large and small example

If you get into what Nevil from the seed bank of holland says:
He liked the walnut indica the largest seeds he ever saw

The Gar

The closest I have seen of the old skunk seeds lately are the garlic bud
These supposedly came from dogless from his skunk selections

 

[Littleleaf]

Thanks for the reply.

One day the lime green big bracked and huge leaf plants that stink up the place will be found.

 

[acespicoli]

This is a line that we've been working on for a little while until we got it right. The goal was to peel through as many afghani lines as we possibly could until we found a true Acrid, ammonia line. From there we wanted to take it to a special skunk smelling line. We went through the Herat, Kandahari, 3 types of Mazar (one was a good candidate but not enough resin), old LA Affie S1s, Afghani #1, and so on. After a lot of hunting we found a female phenotype in a line that was pure acrid ammonia... with a shitload of Skunk Spray. That smell that I often confuse for reall danky weed or if someone ran over a skunk. I haven't seen or smelled this since my early teens in this pure form. It's a short squat Afghani with strong stem structure and MASSIVE density, so if you're growing outdoors in humidity, I'd avoid this line - it's as dense as any cookies or bubba lines. It's a 8-9 weeker, some will take it at 51 days depending on the system. I have never, ever put the term Roaskill on anything because I've wanted to wait until I could deliver something reliable and sexually stable. So here she is, Roadkill Afghani.
Also - the RESIN profile is out of fucking sight. It is the creme de la creme of afghanis and hashplants.

Male:Female Ratio 1:10
Medical Properties Back Pain Relief
Breeding Generation F1 (F) Female x Female Hybrid
Colors Green

SEED SPECIFICATIONS

Name: Heirloom Afghani S1
Lineage: Pure Afghani Line (Roadkill Skunk Spray / Burnt Rubber Cut)
Type: 6 pack
Process: Feminized

Afghani Heirloom​

（Afghani Dominant Line from the Late 80’s – Early 90s）

This is the only time I’m going to offer S1s of my Skunk Spray Afghani cut – the reason being is that this special lady needs to be backed up in several peoples hands and the S1s offer a chance to hit that pheno much more regularly than the F1 and F1R Hybrids. This is the pure, unadulterated Afghani line that smells like Skunk Spray, Burnt Rubber and Ammonia. She is the long lost cut. It took between several of us over a decade to relocate this exact phenotype, I just happened to be the fortunate one who popped the seeds, however this isn’t due to any breeding or crossing. It’s this dank on its own. Massively resinous and density second to none. Moderate yields, finishes in 8-9 weeks depending where ya like it. When dialed in, you can throw this bud at a wall and it will stick to it （as long as it isn’t stucco）.

• Musky (146)
• Pepper (82)
• Rot (50)
• Sweat (45)
• Leather (27)
• Tar (18)
• Hot Milk (16)
• Basilicum (16)
• Onion (15)
• Alcohol (15)
• Tobacco (14)
• Garlic (10)
• Vinegar (7)

 

[Littleleaf]

Where and when can they be acquired?

 

[acespicoli]

 

[acespicoli]

Where and when can they be acquired?

When I find one worthy, will ask Gypsy where the best place is to list those for you,
Until then and if anything happens along the way, hopefully the #Train crew has all they need to repair the cave in on tunnel #1

Skunk#1 was the ultimate strain for breeders and smokers.
I think Sam would be pleased to know we reworked it to its former glory and when we smoke we remember him.
An those others who helped to make it possible

 

[acespicoli]

Arjan: "Ingemar (De Sjamaan) invented WW already in 1987. [...] It was called Arnhem’s Wonder and already won the first HL cup in 1989. [...] For those who don’t believe this, please call Coffeeshop Catweazel or Roger from the grow shop; they worked with Ingmar for a long time. Roger has always sold the clones he had. He had a famous grow shop in Nijmegen. I bought the male and female among other plants in 1992 and only crossed them in 1994. I did not have to do any breading on the White Widow at that time because Ingemar had already done it for us.
And to this day you can still buy original clones of the White Widow in that area of Holland."

You think it likely they used the sativa (Manga Rosa) or the (S. Indian Indica) as the sire ?
I grew out seedsman WW and it was very obvious to me what happened, theres still a few others to try REG seed etc ...

SamS said the decline of skunk was due to poor male selection, it was worked to the AG side ?
Maybe the lumbo side is better in retrospect
If the man said you need to grow 1000 x 1000 = 10000 and find 10 keepers then you know the triploid came in at 1:1000 in a 3way hybrid
If its 40% better than the other 999 would you look for it ? Clone it ? Share it ?

 

[Mtn. Nectar]

sounds like a chicken dinner acespicoli……..
ganj on amigo…..

 

[acespicoli]

Effects: The effects of this varietal are almost unparalleled, especially in today’s market. It is a soaring and euphoric sativa , and does not sacrifice the slightest bit of potency. In fact, it may be one of the most potent sativas available. The only comparable sativas I can think of are Neville’s Haze (the father of this variety), pure Thai, and the occasional and truly exceptional batch of Jack Herer or Mother’s Finest. The effect is overall racing, cerebral, paranoid, and almost psychedelic. Sometimes after smoking this herb, I have visual light tracing effects. There is a near instant shift in how one thinks, as one begins to associate concepts and ideas that are only loosely related—definitely a creativity-inducer! The effects onset immediately, but do not fully come on for at least 20 minutes, but usually even longer. One is high almost instantly when smoking this herb, but the near-overwhelming potency and paranoia will not kick in for about half an hour—which means care should be taken when using this flower! This can be very fun smoke when taken in the right setting, but can also be an anxiety-inducing smoke when used in the wrong one. With friends, this herb makes me silly, giggly, and probably drops me a few IQ points. It can really loosen up a mood. However, this is not active and motivational smoke, despite being a sativa—when I have smoked this cannabis prior to engaging in my “to-do” list, my list usually does not get done. If I go to a public space, I am generally overwhelmed with anxiety and a feeling that everybody is watching, or at least judging me. It is a general social dysphoria, and can come on with little or no warning. If you are immune to these effects in cannabis as some of my friends have claimed, I would strongly encourage sampling this flower—it might give you an experience you’ll never forget! If the reader enjoys horror movies, they could probably forget Netflix for a night, and simply smoke some of this varietal before running errands. Terrifying indeed!

-Higher Thought


This was a description of NL5Hz
I dont mind racey weed sometimes
I also like the get stoned knock out pie eye blood shot eyes cotton mouth munches its all good


Skunk being a 3way hybrid certain phenos it seems like can go a little one way or the other
Whats your ideal sk high?

 

[acespicoli]

Sensi SS catalog picture

These are not my pictures, just catalog samples here while I rework some seed lines
Pre 98 A-Dam raids Super Skunk Phenos (attached)
Indica Pheno looking for flower time of 45 days
1:90

 

[acespicoli]

Terpenoid profile imparts an acrid or “skunky” aroma,
and uniquely expresses sesquiterpene alcohols, such as guaiol, γ-eudesmol, β-eudesmol,
and the monoterpene alcohol nerolidol, as well as hydroxylated terpenoids, such as γ-elemene, a-terpineol, and β-fenchol.

 

[acespicoli]

Mexican peon leading burro up winding trail on jungle-covered volcanic mountain, a fruity-authoritative Encyclopædia Britannica voice over: "In the high country of Mexico evolved a savoury strain of marijuana which came to be known as Acapulco Gold in the days of the contraband trade." Cut to same peon cutting a stand of marijuana with a sickle and loading it onto burro: "Prized for its superior flavour and properties, Acapulco Gold was available only to the favoured few due to its rarity and...

" Roll to border patrolman frisking unsavoury Pancho Villa type Mexican:

"the difficulties involved in importation."

Aerial view of huge field of geometrically-rowed marijuana: "But now the finest strain of Mexican seeds, combined with American agricultural skill and carefully controlled growing conditions, produce a pure strain of marijuana unequalled in flavour, mildness...and relaxing properties. Now available in thirty-seven states: (Cut to close-up of red and gold Acapulco Golds pack.) Acapulco Golds, America's premium quality marijuana cigarette—and, of course, totally noncarcinogenic.[40]

 

[acespicoli]

Genetics: Hawaiian Indica x Skunk No. 1 - Hawaiian Indica »»» Hawaii x Northern Lights
AKA: "The Real McCoy"

FROM OLD FLYING DUTCHMAN STOCK

DNL BX is an unknown from
and can be cultivated indoors and outdoors (Where the plants will need a flowering time of ±61 days)
DNL BX is/was never available as feminized seeds.
Lineage: Hawaiian Skunk x Hawaiian Skunk/Super Skunk


DNL 18
Lineage: Super Skunk 18 x DNL BX
Flowering Time: 56-65 days

Garlic DNL
Lineage: Garlic Skunk x DNL BX
Flowering Time: 56-65 Days


Giesel (aka Superdawg) is an mostly indica
(Where the plants will need a flowering time of ±49 days)
Cross done by Chemdog himself...
Clone was also available from ELITE.
Hybrid of Chemdawg d and Mass Super Skunk


THE D-LINE

 

[acespicoli]

Many thiols have strong odors resembling that of garlic. The odors of thiols, particularly those of low molecular weight, are often strong and repulsive. The spray of skunks consists mainly of low-molecular-weight thiols and derivatives.[11][12][13][14][15] These compounds are detectable by the human nose at concentrations of only 10 parts per billion.[16] Human sweat contains (R)/(S)-3-methyl-3-sulfanylhexan-1-ol (3M3SH), detectable at 2 parts per billion and having an onion-like (S enantiomer) and fruity, grapefruit-like odor (R enantiomer).[17] (Methylthio)methanethiol (MeSCH2SH; MTMT) is a strong-smelling volatile thiol, also detectable at parts per billion levels, found in male mouse urine. Lawrence C. Katz and co-workers showed that MTMT functioned as a semiochemical, activating certain mouse olfactory sensory neurons, and attracting female mice.[18] Copper has been shown to be required by a specific mouse olfactory receptor, MOR244-3, which is highly responsive to MTMT as well as to various other thiols and related compounds.[19] A human olfactory receptor, OR2T11, has been identified which, in the presence of copper, is highly responsive to the gas odorants (see below) ethanethiol and t-butyl mercaptan as well as other low molecular weight thiols, including allyl mercaptan found in human garlic breath, and the strong-smelling cyclic sulfide thietane.[20]

Thiols are also responsible for a class of wine faults caused by an unintended reaction between sulfur and yeast and the "skunky" odor of beer that has been exposed to ultraviolet light.

Not all thiols have unpleasant odors. For example, furan-2-ylmethanethiol contributes to the aroma of roasted coffee, whereas grapefruit mercaptan, a monoterpenoid thiol, is responsible for the characteristic scent of grapefruit. The effect of the latter compound is present only at low concentrations. The pure mercaptan has an unpleasant odor.

In the United States, natural gas distributors were required to add thiols, originally ethanethiol, to natural gas (which is naturally odorless) after the deadly New London School explosion in New London, Texas, in 1937. Many gas distributors were odorizing gas prior to this event. Most currently-used gas odorants contain mixtures of mercaptans and sulfides, with t-butyl mercaptan as the main odor constituent in natural gas and ethanethiol in liquefied petroleum gas (LPG, propane).[21] In situations where thiols are used in commercial industry, such as liquid petroleum gas tankers and bulk handling systems, an oxidizing catalyst is used to destroy the odor. A copper-based oxidation catalyst neutralizes the volatile thiols and transforms them into inert products.

Thiol - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

INTERESTING SMELL CLOUD
Skunk
Garlic
Human Sweat
Grapefruit

Skunk Spray Afghani cut ... and S1's

Here you can find the varieties of cannabis which were tagged by our users with certain characteristics in terms of Smell / Aroma. Altogether there are currently 691 varieties of cannabis in this cloud.

• Hashish (234)
• Musky (146)
• Sandalwood (116)
• Rot (51)
• Sweat (45)
• Leather (27)
• Onion (16)
• Tobacco (14)
• Garlic (11)

Key Volatile Compounds Contributing to Burnt Rubber / Chemical Aromas​

Compound Name​	Chemical Class​	Primary Aroma Contribution​	Relevant Strains (where explicitly linked)​	Key Research Snippets​
Methylisohexenyl Ketone​	Ketone (Aldehyde)​	Rubber, pepper, mushroom​	Not explicitly linked to specific strains in provided data, but generally contributes to "rubber" notes in cannabis.​	​
Skatole​	Heterocyclic​	Fecal (high conc.), savory, chemical, gassy amplification, ammoniacal, naphthyl, floral (low conc.)​	GMO, 710 Chem, savory-smelling cultivars​	​
Indole​	Heterocyclic​	Floral-mothball, chemical​	GMO, 710 Chem, savory-smelling cultivars​	​
Volatile Sulfur Compounds (VSCs)​	Sulfur Compound​	Skunky, pungent, garlic, hops​	Alpha Skunk Burnt Rubber, GMO (gassy amplification), Garlic Sherbet​	​
Acetic Acid​	Aldehyde​	Vinegar-like, pungent​	General contribution to chemical complexity​	​
Benzaldehyde​	Aldehyde​	Almond-like​	General contribution to chemical complexity​	​
Heptanal​	Aldehyde​	Strong fruity​	General contribution to chemical complexity​	​
2-ethylhexanol​	Alcohol​	Heavy, earthy, slightly floral​	General contribution to chemical complexity​

strains reported to have burnt rubber, tire, fuel, or chemical-like aromas. Key strains that have emerged include 'Tire Fire,' 'Alpha Skunk Burnt Rubber,' and 'Rubber Donuts,' all explicitly named for or described with these distinctive scents. Other strains like 'GMO,' 'GG4,' 'Sour Diesel,' 'Chemdog,' 'Mana,' and 'Rawtton' also appear to possess similar chemical or gassy notes.

Cannabis Strains with Burnt Rubber / Chemical Aromas​

Strain Name​	Primary Aroma Descriptors​	Genetic Lineage​	Key Reported Effects​	THC Potency (Approx.)​	Dominant Terpenes (where available)​
Tire Fire​	Burnt rubber, chemical, fruity, OG funk, sweet rubber, tar, apricot, mint​	Hi-Octane x Dosidos​	Sleepy, relaxed, euphoric; helps anxiety, stress, insomnia​	20-31%​	Caryophyllene, Limonene, Pinene​
Alpha Skunk Burnt Rubber (F)​	Burnt rubber, skunk spray, garlic, vomit, pungent, sour, fuel​	Burnt Rubber Phenotype x Alpha Skunk (Skunk Selection)​	Elevated creativity, high-energy buzz, stress relief​	Improved/Amplified​	Burnt Rubber, Skunk Spray, Garlic, Vomit​
Rubber Donuts​	Sweet, fuel-like, rubbery, doughy​	Biscotti x Jealousy​	Uplifting mental buzz, creativity, relaxed mindset, soothing relaxation​	25.16%​	Limonene, Beta Caryophyllene, Beta Myrcene​
Permanent Marker​	Permanent marker, soapy, sour, sweet lemon candy, floral, gassy funk, diesel, skunk​	(Biscotti x Sherb Bx) x Jealousy​	Deeply relaxing body high, cerebral uplift, euphoria, focused; helps depression, pain​	Up to 35%​	Limonene, Caryophyllene, Linalool​
Peyote Wi-Fi​	Chewed Tylenol, burning rubber, citrus gassy, peppery​	Peyote Purple x Wi-Fi​	Potent psychoactive, cerebral energy, euphoric bliss, artistic inspiration, relaxing body high​	20-26%​	Not specified​
Creme De La Chem (CDLC)​	Burnt plastic/rubber, burning tire, floral, spicy, incense, fuelly, gassy, earthy, funk​	Stardawg Illuminati Cut x Chemdogging​	Energized, balanced, uplifting, enhanced focus, inspiration; helps aches/pains, insomnia​	18-24%​	Caryophyllene, Humulene, Terpinolene​
Chemdog (and lineage)​	Pungent diesel, rubber, citrus, skunk, fuel, pine​	Legendary parent of Sour Diesel, OG Kush, Chem 91​	Cerebral, euphoric, creative, uplifting, deep relaxation, pain relief​	High​	Myrcene, Limonene, Caryophyllene, Pinene, Terpinolene, Humulene, Linalool, Bisabolol, Geraniol, Ocimene​
GMO (Garlic Cookies)​	Pungent, earthy, garlic, onion, sweet, spicy, coffee, diesel, funky, gassy​	GSC x Chemdawg​	Cerebral, body relaxation, calming, tranquility, stress relief, pain relief, sedative​	High (up to 28%)​	Caryophyllene, Limonene, Myrcene, Linalool​
Garlic Sherbet​	Chemical, gassy, garlic, onion, sweet berry-musk, funky​	Blue Sherbert x GMO​	Calm motivation, focused, productive, pain/anxiety reduction, appetite stimulation, deeper sleep​	~28%​	Not specified​
Mana​	Onions, rubber​	Not specified​	Strong pain and stress relief​	Not specified​	Not specified​
Rawtton​	Rubber garlic, sweet orange​	Chem D x Mandarin Sunset​	Happy, relaxed, energizing​	Not specified​	Myrcene, Caryophyllene, Limonene​
Super Sour Diesel​	Intensely loud, wildly gassy, dank pine, earth, citrus, fuel-forward​	Chemdog x Super Skunk​	Fast-acting, cerebral, creativity, motivation, invigoration, body relaxation​	19%​	Limonene, Myrcene, beta-Pinene, alpha-Pinene, Camphene, Caryophyllene​
Gorilla Glue #4 (GG4)​	Pungent, earthy, sour, diesel, coffee, chocolate, pine, citrus, bubblegum, gassy​	Chem's Sister x Sour Dubb x Chocolate Diesel​	Intense euphoria, deep relaxation, couch-lock, mental clarity; helps stress, anxiety, pain, sleep, appetite​	20%​	Caryophyllene, Myrcene, Limonene, Humulene​
Grand Prix​	Burnt rubber, sweet gassy, lemon, fruity, creamy, confectionery, earthy​	Sundae Driver x Zkittlez Cake​	Euphoric, relaxing physical sensation, stress/anxiety alleviation​	Not specified​	Not specified​
Mac 1​	Burning rubber​	Not specified​	Fire​	Not specified​	Not specified​
Lemon Cherry Gelato​	Hot rubber, fruity candy​	Not specified​	Trippy high​	Not specified​	Not specified​
Biscotti​	Burning rubber​	Not specified​	Not specified​	Not specified​	Not specified​
Super Silver Hashplant​	Burnt rubber​	Not specified​	Energetic, euphoric, happy; helps depression, eye pressure, lack of appetite​	Not specified​	Terpinolene, Myrcene​
Guava Berry​	Gas, berries, burning rubber, sweet, berry​	Not specified​	Hungry, relaxed, talkative, pain relief, appetite heightened​	Not specified​	Not specified​
LIT Marker​	Earthy, pine, citrus, spicy diesel​	Permanent Marker x LIT OG #32​	Creativity, relaxation, mental stimulation; helps stress, anxiety, chronic pain​	25-30%​	Myrcene, Pinene, Caryophyllene​