top of the heap to third world status in one generation

[zachrockbadenof]

Red Onion State Prison is a high-security prison for violent and dangerous offenders who are often held in isolation.

so someone who raped or killed, or beat the shit out of someone is pissed about the conditions - well in a word FUCK-THEM... i'll supply the lighterfluid and matches

 

[nepalnt21]

even the shittiest people, even the shittiest prison inmates have rights... like it or not.

and there's a reason we have rights... it's so YOU can have rights, too (see how that works?)

it's all for you, zach

 

[zachrockbadenof]

even the shittiest people, even the shittiest prison inmates have rights... like it or not.

and there's a reason we have rights... it's so YOU can have rights, too (see how that works?)

it's all for you, zach

i guess this is where we disagree....

 

[buzzmobile]

“It’s the influence of money, which is absolutely a cancer.”

Here's an analysis of the Democratic campaign:

https://www.salon.com/2024/11/24/everyone-is-taking-their-skim-how-democratic-consultants-cashed-in-on-harris-losing-campaign/

 

[Gry]

i'm not thirty miles from the prison, but this is not being reported locally. WTF !!! if an inmate kills another in a fight, or dies in their cell under unusual circumstances, it gets reported...this is being swept under the rug.

This is a subject that I will address this pm.

 

[Gry]

i'm not thirty miles from the prison, but this is not being reported locally. WTF !!! if an inmate kills another in a fight, or dies in their cell under unusual circumstances, it gets reported...this is being swept under the rug.

This is a subject that I will address this pm.

 

[nepalnt21]

i guess this is where we disagree....

so if you were innocent but got convicted anyway (it happens)...

????

 

[zachrockbadenof]

so if you were innocent but got convicted anyway (it happens)...

????

unfort it does happen.... but for the cases that there is no doubt.... none.... housing and feeding this scum for the next 30-40-50years... sorry... and for those who say executing a person who savagely killed someone, is inhumane.... i'd chuckle if it wasn't so tragic..

 

[nepalnt21]

the fact that innocent people exist is EXACTLY my point... EXACTLY why even violent prisoners have rights... because one day, even an innocent person could be in that same place. it's why we have due process, it's one reason i think even felons ought to be able to vote.

incidentally, until we can weed out every last glimmer of a chance of an innocent person being put to death, i am against the death penalty.

 

[Gry]

Had a friend who had been a warden in one of the new ( back when they were new) glass houses that were the trend back in the eighties. I had hoped to be able to speak with him of this.

 

[Gry]

i'm not thirty miles from the prison, but this is not being reported locally. WTF !!! if an inmate kills another in a fight, or dies in their cell under unusual circumstances, it gets reported...this is being swept under the rug.

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Could not agree more. Sixteen people burned to death, and the silence is deafining.

 

[armedoldhippy]

and i mean that's just one small indiscretion in a drop of awful human rights violations,

you are talking about southwest virginia, you know. no fucks given, for a large % of them, esp if you aren't "human".

 

[armedoldhippy]

incidentally, until we can weed out every last glimmer of a chance of an innocent person being put to death, i am
against the death penalty.

"better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer" - william blackstone

 

[armedoldhippy]

even the shittiest people, even the shittiest prison inmates have rights... like it or not.

ones refusal to descend to torturing even the obviously guilty (and maybe even deserving) of the criminals confined is a base-line distinction between moral and immoral behavior.

 

[nepalnt21]

"better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer" - william blackstone

that's a really nice one, thanks 4 that.

... and of course i also agree with the rest of what yer saying