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moose eater

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Sounds like an interesting thing to do, have often wondered what % of the stuff we could do without. I did not mind reusing bags and wax paper worked fine for most stuff.
Baggies were a large part of my young life. I recall reading that a previous
generation sold cannabis in matchboxes. How many matchboxes to a lid ?
That'd be a larger match box.
 

Gry

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armedoldhippy

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exactly- what it is she's referencing when she says, 'without plastics.'
i'm going out on a limb here to guess that she means non-recyclable uses- packaging largely. i wash and re-use knives, sporks etc. lids on fast-food drink cups are EVERYWHERE! ditto the foam cups. they make reusable wax paper sandwich baggies now, wife buys them. Wally-World takes back the plastic grocery bags here. not sure what they do with them, though...
 

armedoldhippy

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How many matchboxes to a lid
supposedly four. a matchbox here was a nickel of deseeded no stems mexican for $5. but since a lid was almost always a few grams short of an ounce (carrying fees) it is impossible to tell. used to know a guy that got five nickels per ounce, not counting the biggest bud that he always cut out for his "trouble"...
 

Gry

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Sadly the big recycling push of a few years back was yet another case
of corporate fraud.
They were simply paying impoverished nations for the right to dump it there.
The song " Locomotive Breath" comes to mind.
Have read of the crap breaking down in the oceans , with the smallest
things eating little particles of it, then a bit larger fish eats them,
bottom line is that the amount of plastic is rising in the fish we
consume.
 

Gry

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supposedly four. a matchbox here was a nickel of deseeded no stems mexican for $5. but since a lid was almost always a few grams short of an ounce (carrying fees) it is impossible to tell. used to know a guy that got five nickels per ounce, not counting the biggest bud that he always cut out for his "trouble"...
Am left wondering if the kitchen size matchbox would be the equal of a lid ?
I recall when metal film cans were used as a days worth of stash.
 

moose eater

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i'm going out on a limb here to guess that she means non-recyclable uses- packaging largely. i wash and re-use knives, sporks etc. lids on fast-food drink cups are EVERYWHERE! ditto the foam cups. they make reusable wax paper sandwich baggies now, wife buys them. Wally-World takes back the plastic grocery bags here. not sure what they do with them, though...
Rubbermaid food storage (which she began replacing last year with Pyrex food storage with locking tab plastic lids), storage bags of all sorts (matchbooks for 'lids', Gry?), anything possible, though, as stated, even the Pyrex food storage stuff still relies on the plastic and rubber lids with locking tabs.
 
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moose eater

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Am left wondering if the kitchen size matchbox would be the equal of a lid ?
I recall when metal film cans were used as a days worth of stash.
That was the beauty of a 'lid' back in the day.

Despite the common hand-held, thin metal, cheapo postal scales, a lid was anywhere from 2-1/2 fingers, to 4 fingers in the bottom of a sandwich baggie. Typically a fold-over tuck baggie, as zip-locks weren't really on the scene yet.

Essentially a lid was mostly what ever a person selling it said it was, unless disputed by a buyer, in which case sometimes, with the right humanitarian of a dealer, the amount might increase, or the deal fade away in general if there was an impasse with a hard-ass dealer.

But I think a larger kitchen match box would be a 'light' lid. Certainly not the 4-finger lids we strived to put out..

Even after triple beam scales became stylish and we had them, we prided outselves in putting out overweight bags, qp's, lbs. etc. "Give the People What They Want." (Jimmy Cliff said/sang that....).

Less reason for them to want to give your name first if there was legal trouble (or so we hoped), and a guarantee of repeat customers.

Though it sometimes, especially in smaller markets/villages/towns had the capacity to piss off other more greedy dealers.

I'm sure they eventually got over themselves. :)
 
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mean mr.mustard

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I always thought it was a JIF peanut butter jar lid full... which would, in my mind, put it on par with the big match box.

I've also smoked enough to have never even known in the first place.

I know four fingers was generally 30 g's at least.... that's where we wanted our ounces but we weighed them generally.

Give the People What They Want!!

Not only a good idea and great song and a wonderful sentiment... it is just the right thing to do!
 

unclefishstick

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yup,i admit i mostly weighed ounces to 30 grams because using a trip beam (proudly stolen from a local high school by my old dealer) it was easier than doing math to figure the tare on the weighing bowl...just bump that 10gm weight up three notches and done!
but even with a digital scale i still do 30gms/oz...and offer a money back guarantee...and give away lots of bubble to good custies...
 

moose eater

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yup,i admit i mostly weighed ounces to 30 grams because using a trip beam (proudly stolen from a local high school by my old dealer) it was easier than doing math to figure the tare on the weighing bowl...just bump that 10gm weight up three notches and done!
but even with a digital scale i still do 30gms/oz...and offer a money back guarantee...and give away lots of bubble to good custies...
Went into the Peyton Place community of Wrangell Island in in SE Ak the early to mid-1980s with 5 lbs. of good Colombian, where the residents had been buying short (25 gram) z's for $60 to $65 from local greedy, unscrupulous dealers, stayed at a couple of friends' house from my time in the Forest Service days there, and unloaded over-weight qp's well below market, as well as 34 gram z's for $50.

I was a youngster more or less, despite a history of business since age 13, and opened up a local bank account on a temporary basis for the few days of hot and heavy activity.

Quickly became of visual interest to the local PD, who would cruise by very slowly when I was downtown and stare in an obvious manner. The local dealers were reportedly miffed, as well.

I finished business, said goodbye to my friends, and got on the next boat to Haines, to hitch out through Haines Jct. Y.T., and reclaim my Norwegian Elkhound I'd left with a former friend in Whitehorse for safe-guarding for my trip with the weed from Michigan to Wrangell.

I typically figured that if a 'mission' went sour, and I was busted, and my dog put in the pound, the average dog pound would hold a pup at least 3 days before potentially euthanizing them if no one showed interest. I figured that she shouldn't pay my dues, so on most similar missions, I'd leave her with a friend.
 
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armedoldhippy

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matchbooks for 'lids', Gry?
"box". i figured he was talking those big mother "strike any damn place" match boxes. i miss those. too dangerous for normal people, apparently... hell, sparklers are questionable for me. i wired about 300 together once to see how long they'd burn...went off just like a pile of black powder SHOULD go off...instantaneously! i was too close...
 

moose eater

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"box". i figured he was talking those big mother "strike any damn place" match boxes. i miss those. too dangerous for normal people, apparently... hell, sparklers are questionable for me. i wired about 300 together once to see how long they'd burn...went off just like a pile of black powder SHOULD go off...instantaneously! i was too close...
Yes, I meant match box.

We still get boxes of the strike-anywhere kitchen matches, but most are in smaller boxes these days, unless I catch the dept. store or hardware at just the right moment.
 
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armedoldhippy

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Yes, I meant match box.

We still get boxes of the strike-anywhere kitchen matches, but most are in smaller boxes these days, unless I catch the dept. store or hardware at just the right moment.
buddy told me the other day that they have "strike anywhere" matches available here again, but with a different chemical composition. this one will strike anywhere, he said, but you have to lean on it. used to keep a few in a pill bottle, and set one off pulling it out from between the others. maybe change is good?
 

armedoldhippy

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Kids eat Tide pods now.
they used to put beans in their ears, 80 to 90 years ago. :unsure: my grandmother mentioned that. she'd be leaving and say "y'all be good now, and don't put beans in your ears..." no dumber than eating Tide pods, and quite possibly smarter. i read someplace that they changed from the WP heads because mice would find them & ignite them by chewing, and burned houses down. possible...:dunno:
 

buzzmobile

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they used to put beans in their ears, 80 to 90 years ago. :unsure: my grandmother mentioned that. she'd be leaving and say "y'all be good now, and don't put beans in your ears..." no dumber than eating Tide pods, and quite possibly smarter. i read someplace that they changed from the WP heads because mice would find them & ignite them by chewing, and burned houses down. possible...:dunno:
There's a song for that...


You can't hear the teacher with beans in your ears.
 

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