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top of the heap to third world status in one generation

h.h.

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Nationalism breeds nationalism. Radicalism breeds radicalism. It’s a fight for the hearts and minds. Fascism isn’t a race or a religion. One is not born a fascist. It’s a transformation process. To infer our government intel is dependent on it is a very poor opinion. Given without much thought. Actually pretty silly.
 

h.h.

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Blumenthal has broadcast on RT (formerly known as Russia Today) on many occasions.[SUP][10][/SUP] In December 2015, during a trip to Moscow presumed by multiple sources to have been paid for by the Kremlin,[SUP][15][/SUP][SUP][18][/SUP] Blumenthal was a guest at RT's 10 Years On Air anniversary party attended by President Vladimir Putin, then-Lieutenant General Michael Flynn of the United States and English politician Ken Livingstone.[SUP][15][/SUP][SUP][10][/SUP][SUP][19][/SUP] In an interview with Tucker Carlsonon Fox News in November 2017, Blumenthal defended RT against "the charge that it’s Kremlin propaganda."[SUP][10][/SUP][SUP][20][/SUP] He has also contributed on multiple occasions to Sputnikradio,[SUP][18][/SUP][SUP][21][/SUP] as well as to Iran's Press TV[SUP][22][/SUP][SUP][23][/SUP] and China's CGTN.[SUP][24][/SUP] Blumenthal founded The Grayzone website a month after his visit to Moscow.[SUP][3][/SUP]


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Blumenthal
 

armedoldhippy

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Has been observed that we are seeing a global resurgence of right wing extremism (Nazis, Fascism, etc.
A wealth of opportunities for intel people to plumb.

all of what you observed bubbles to the surface when the economy goes south for the least affluent of populations. when the poor get fed up with wage stagnation, lack of opportunities for jobs, and blatant corruption in their "leaders", shit is about to get real ugly. "the people have no bread." "let them eat cake!" much of the Western world is transitioning from manufacturing to an information-based economy. factory jobs leaving, not coming back. this has been known since the 1970s. but, our "leaders" response to any approaching crisis (like a pandemic) has been to kick the can further down the road, hoping to protect THEIR family & friends from the effects of their gross negligence. IE- "i got mine, fuck everyone else that made it possible"
 

Gry

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Nationalism breeds nationalism. Radicalism breeds radicalism. It’s a fight for the hearts and minds. Fascism isn’t a race or a religion. One is not born a fascist. It’s a transformation process. To infer our government intel is dependent on it is a very poor opinion. Given without much thought. Actually pretty silly.

You have absolutely no way what so ever of knowing exactly how much thought I have given to a particular subject.
You also seem to feel that I would have difficulty in providing credible citation for what I post. You are mistaken many times over.
You seem to I need to seek your permission or consent to post what I post what I wish in a thread I created and have maintained for years.
You then disclosed personal and family info you had been entrusted with to punish me for having done so.
Very petty and reprehensible, yet it would appear you remain on that same track with today's comments.:

So, you feel like you have the ability to discern how much thought I have given a subject ?
You are no Psychic, but if think you should have the ability to control what others post here via underhanded
tactics and the disclosure of personal info, you are clearly "burdened".
I see you have now moved on to pulling up right wing trash designed specifically to paint effective antiwar people red.
The man is the son of Sidney Blumenthal and you think he is a putin fan ?
About all that remains at this point for you is to start screaming about his being Jewish
 

h.h.

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You have absolutely no way what so ever of knowing exactly how much thought I have given a subject.
You also seem to feel that I would have difficulty in providing credible citation for what I post. You are mistaken many times over.
You seem to I need to seek your permission or consent to post what I post what I wish in a thread I created and have maintained for years.
You then disclosed personal and family info you had been entrusted with to punish me for having done so.
Very petty and reprehensible, yet it would appear you remain on that same track with today's comments.:


So, you feel like you have the ability to discern how much thought I have given a subject ?
You are no Psychic, but if think you should have the ability to control what others post here via underhanded
tactics and the disclosure of personal info, you are clearly "burdened".
I see you have now moved on to pulling up right wing trash designed specifically to paint effective antiwar people red.
The man is the son of Sidney Blumenthal and you think he is a putin fan ?
About all that remains at this point for you to start screaming about his being Jewish

Grayzone is sponsored by putin. Post it all you want. Just realize what it is. A made up story with no named witnesses . Like the picture of Ukraine that you disputed. It was very obviously not the same picture of the gas explosion in Russia. Then you send me PM’s with even wilder stories. Extreme leftest nonsense following the same course as the Covid deniers. Repeating pure propaganda.
 

Gry

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Allow me to explain something about DC. When you are the kid of someone who has heft, there is a very tempting path that
is open to you. That would be the K street crowd, you know, the lobby people.
They pay really fat bucks and you get pulled into a very comfortable and well heeled community where you will always be treated really well.
That always hold the door open wide for those who have a connected background. An awfully lot of those who I know went that route.
I have immense respect for those who took a different path, and that does include Max Blumenthal.
 

h.h.

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Allow me to explain something about DC. When you are the kid of someone who has heft, there is a very tempting path that
is open to you. That would be the K street crowd, you know, the lobby people.
They pay really fat bucks and you get pulled into a very comfortable and well heeled community where you will always be treated really well.
That always hold the door open wide for those who have a connected background. An awfully lot of those who I know went that route.
I have immense respect for those who took a different path, and that does include Max Blumenthal.

He took a different path alright. A spoiled politician’s kid that sees nothing but nazis , especially after partying with putin. He publishes nonsense articles without real facts and barely any research if any. Just more of the propaganda excusing mass destruction and war mongering. No better than an actual nazi.
 

Gry

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Grayzone is sponsored by putin. Post it all you want. Just realize what it is. A made up story with no named witnesses . Like the picture of Ukraine that you disputed. It was very obviously not the same picture of the gas explosion in Russia. Then you send me PM’s with even wilder stories. Extreme leftest nonsense following the same course as the Covid deniers. Repeating pure propaganda.

Yet another absurd claim in stating that greyzone is sponsored by putin, absent any citation.
Frankly I don' t think you have idea who controls the content within any given media stream.
Had you ever bothered to look into it, and spoken with someone who had programming
on RT you would know that each individual programmer had compete control over what
went out. In other words, once you buy the timeslot, you can put dancing cats on
if that was how you wanted to spend the money. They exert no top down control, or
they could not sell the airtime. Capitalism 101.

Your statement that I had sent you PMs , omits that you and I did exchange personal messanges for a period of time.
Long enough that we had each spoken a bit of family background.
The difference being, that I kept the content of your PMs to myself,
whereas you took it upon yourself to make the content of my personal messages public.
Blumenthal is not the one with crap for values, you are.
 

Gry

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When I recall how Putin treated his own citizens when they were trapped in the theatre with terrorists, I shudder
at the thought of how he will treat the people of Ukraine. The man could have saved many of those lives
had he bothered to have an antidote such as narcan at hand.
Can't help but recall his getting favorable coverage at the time for "resolving the situation".
 

Gry

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Ongoing series about the Ukraine War


How Many Lies Before You Belong to The Lie? Part 1
https://emory.kfjc.org/archive/ftr/1200_1299/f-1228.mp3

How Many Lies Before You Belong to The Lie?, Part 2
https://emory.kfjc.org/archive/ftr/1200_1299/f-1229.mp3

How Many Lies Before You Belong to The Lie? Part 3
https://emory.kfjc.org/archive/ftr/1200_1299/f-1230.mp3

How Many Lies Before You Belong to The Lie?, Part 4
https://emory.kfjc.org/archive/ftr/1200_1299/f-1231.mp3

How Many Lies Before You Belong to The Lie?, Part 5
https://emory.kfjc.org/archive/ftr/1200_1299/f-1232.mp3

How Many Lies Before You Belong to The Lie?, Part 6
https://emory.kfjc.org/archive/ftr/1200_1299/f-1233.mp3

How Many Lies Before You Belong to The Lie?, Part 7
https://emory.kfjc.org/archive/ftr/1200_1299/f-1234.mp3

How Many Lies Before You Belong to The Lie?, Part 8
https://emory.kfjc.org/archive/ftr/1200_1299/f-1235.mp3

How Many Lies Before You Belong to The Lie?, Part 9
https://emory.kfjc.org/archive/ftr/1200_1299/f-1236.mp3
 

CosmicGiggle

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..............Your statement that I had sent you PMs , omits that you and I did exchange personal messanges for a period of time.
Long enough that we had each spoken a bit of family background.
The difference being, that I kept the content of your PMs to myself,
whereas you took it upon yourself to make the content of my personal messages public.
Blumenthal is not the one with crap for values, you are.

Strange, you had this very same issue with mowood several years ago and used the info to successfully get him banned.

........ if you're embarrassed by the info and don't want it to get out, and already had a 'bad experience', why do you keep spreading the info around in PM's, unless you're trying to bait another member and get him banned also? :whistling:

.................. and speaking about PM's, I just got one from another Mod about this very subject, strange huh, same MO, baiting other members, mowood, flylow and now h.h., I'd call that trolling!!!! :tiphat:
 

h.h.

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Don’t send me unsolicited PM’s full of nonsense. My PM’s are my property. I do with them what I please. They are not secret files. I have no secrets with you or any other member. Especially when unsolicited from someone who isn’t a mod. Only a busy body. Not like stolen e-mails. The putin crap supported here. Seems a little one sided and completely disingenuous. Pro censorship.
 

h.h.

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Yet another absurd claim in stating that greyzone is sponsored by putin, absent any citation.
Frankly I don' t think you have idea who controls the content within any given media stream.
Had you ever bothered to look into it, and spoken with someone who had programming
on RT you would know that each individual programmer had compete control over what
went out. In other words, once you buy the timeslot, you can put dancing cats on
if that was how you wanted to spend the money. They exert no top down control, or
they could not sell the airtime. Capitalism 101.

Your statement that I had sent you PMs , omits that you and I did exchange personal messanges for a period of time.
Long enough that we had each spoken a bit of family background.
The difference being, that I kept the content of your PMs to myself,
whereas you took it upon yourself to make the content of my personal messages public.
Blumenthal is not the one with crap for values, you are.


grayshit started one month after partying with putin. This is your hero. A spoiled politicians kid .
 

Gry

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Don’t send me unsolicited PM’s full of nonsense. My PM’s are my property. I do with them what I please. They are not secret files. I have no secrets with you or any other member. Especially when unsolicited from someone who isn’t a mod. Only a busy body. Not like stolen e-mails. The putin crap supported here. Seems a little one sided and completely disingenuous. Pro censorship.

Take up your issue with the public posting of personal messages with the management.
When it comes to censorship, it is you who seemed to think you had an ability to tell me what I may post in a thread that I have maintained here for years.
 

Gry

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Microplastics found in human blood for first time

Exclusive: The discovery shows the particles can travel around the body and may lodge in organs
https://www.theguardian.com/environ...oplastics-found-in-human-blood-for-first-time

Microplastic pollution has been detected in human blood for the first time, with scientists finding the tiny particles in almost 80% of the people tested.

The discovery shows the particles can travel around the body and may lodge in organs. The impact on health is as yet unknown. But researchers are concerned as microplastics cause damage to human cells in the laboratory and air pollution particles are already known to enter the body and cause millions of early deaths a year.

Huge amounts of plastic waste are dumped in the environment and microplastics now contaminate the entire planet, from the summit of Mount Everest to the deepest oceans. People were already known to consume the tiny particles via food and water as well as breathing them in, and they have been found in the faeces of babies and adults.

The scientists analysed blood samples from 22 anonymous donors, all healthy adults and found plastic particles in 17. Half the samples contained PET plastic, which is commonly used in drinks bottles, while a third contained polystyrene, used for packaging food and other products. A quarter of the blood samples contained polyethylene, from which plastic carrier bags are made.

“Our study is the first indication that we have polymer particles in our blood – ​it’s a breakthrough result,” said Prof Dick Vethaak, an ecotoxicologist at Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam in the Netherlands. “But we have to extend the research and increase the sample sizes, the number of polymers assessed, etc.” Further studies by a number of groups are already under way, he said.

“It is certainly reasonable to be concerned,” Vethaak told the Guardian. “The particles are there and are transported throughout the body.” He said previous work had shown that microplastics were 10 times higher in the faeces of babies compared with adults and that babies fed with plastic bottles are swallowing millions of microplastic particles a day.

“We also know in general that babies and young children are more vulnerable to chemical and particle exposure,” he said. “That worries me a lot.”

The new research is published in the journal Environment International and adapted existing techniques to detect and analyse particles as small as 0.0007mm. Some of the blood samples contained two or three types of plastic. The team used steel syringe needles and glass tubes to avoid contamination, and tested for background levels of microplastics using blank samples.

Vethaak acknowledged that the amount and type of plastic varied considerably between the blood samples. “But this is a pioneering study,” he said, with more work now needed. He said the differences might reflect short-term exposure before the blood samples were taken, such as drinking from a plastic-lined coffee cup, or wearing a plastic face mask.

“The big question is what is happening in our body?” Vethaak said. “Are the particles retained in the body? Are they transported to certain organs, such as getting past the blood-brain barrier?” And are these levels sufficiently high to trigger disease? We urgently need to fund further research so we can find out.”

The new research was funded by the Dutch National Organisation for Health Research and Development and Common Seas, a social enterprise working to reduce plastic pollution.

“Plastic production is set to double by 2040,” said Jo Royle, founder of the charity Common Seas. “We have a right to know what all this plastic is doing to our bodies.” Common Seas, along with more than 80 NGOs, scientists and MPs, are asking the UK government to allocate £15m to research on the human health impacts of plastic. The EU is already funding research on the impact of microplastic on foetuses and babies, and on the immune system.

A recent study found that microplastics can latch on to the outer membranes of red blood cells and may limit their ability to transport oxygen. The particles have also been found in the placentas of pregnant women, and in pregnant rats they pass rapidly through the lungs into the hearts, brains and other organs of the foetuses.

A new review paper published on Tuesday, co-authored by Vethaak, assessed cancer risk and concluded: “More detailed research on how micro- and nano-plastics affect the structures and processes of the human body, and whether and how they can transform cells and induce carcinogenesis, is urgently needed, particularly in light of the exponential increase in plastic production. The problem is becoming more urgent with each day.”
 

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