too many buds?

[crisscross]

Hey now!

I have 3 gals about 7 weeks into flower. My canopy is almost completely even and thick as thieves. I have a ton of buds on these plants. This is my second time growing and the first time I got 6.5 oz off of ONE plant. My buddy who suggested I start growing told me my plants have too many flowers. So many flowers that the potency will be diminished and the large flowers will suffer because of this. Is there any truth to this? I suspect the smaller flowers underneath will be less potent. I get that less light probably means less potent. But will the small buds 'handicap' the large buds?

My second question involves the trimming of roots. If I wanted to move a netpot from one container to another container, is it a terrible idea to trim the roots? The reason is I have a cloning station, a vegging station and a flowering station. Good idea on paper but during veg the roots are getting much larger than I initially anticipated.

Any input is welcome. Thank you.

 

[DirtyCarpet]

ANY input? Okay, here goes: I wouldn't worry about having too many buds. I have a (mostly Sativa) budding plant that's REAL tightly packed, and was worried about mold and pm. She vegged shortly outide at the last summer, indicated female, and came inside under 23wx18hrs for a month, maybe two. I kept her in a dresser all winter...COLD! Since then she's been a victim of topping, SCroG, SuperCropping, FIM, BDSM, everything. (Under 9x23w cfl; CLOSE!-maybe 3/4" away). Foil trays under and on the sides to "encapsulate" and concentrate the light AMAP. I kept up a pretty aggressive vent. system, and have had no worries as of yet. (Avg. rh 40-50%)-No pics, all fiction... . I say, fill out your layer and keep the fan(s) on ensuring good circulation. Watch your rh. All that shit in the dark under the canopy, clone. Peace, and good luck. My buds are smiling at yours!

 

[DirtyCarpet]

PS-What strain, what media, lights, nutrients, etc? Details, dig?

 

[TribalSeeds]

The stuff at the bottom that doesn't get light is worthless. Your top buds would be bigger if you removed the bottom larf and secondary branches. The tops will of course be more potent than the larf

 

[Canniwhatsis]

Root pruning isn't a bad idea in certain circumstances..... Like keeping a Bonsai Mum in the same small pot for years.

However pruning roots of a flowering plant should be taken very cautiously. Roots grow fast during vege,... not so much after the 3rd week of flower.


Trimming the "Larf" underbuds during flower is generally accepted as a way to increase weight in the top main coals.... However to think that the under buds are somehow less potent is IMHO fallacy.

Yes the underbud is lighter, fluffier, and otherwise a burden to trim and looks like crap in a bag. But my experience says it's no less frosty, trichomes mature at the same time. It's still good shit, maybe not for sale, but for personal stash, or just hash it!

 

[Cappy]

This is exactly how I feel, well stated ^^^^

 

[crisscross]

Thanks for the responses everyone. I'm glad some other people agree with me that small buds that may be less dense can still have the same potency. That makes me feel better.

My question wasn't answered the way I wanted and I think it had a lot to do with my lack of communication skills. So here I go again:

If I have 2 plants-one plant has 2 colas, the second plant has 12 colas where all of the colas are near equal in size and overall appearance, both plants have these colas at a even height receiving equal light--will one plant be more potent than the other? The only difference between these plants in quantity of flowers due to pruning.

My buddy told me that if a plant has too many colas that the potency will go down. Are there any opinions on this thought?

 

[oneshot]

Thanks for the responses everyone. I'm glad some other people agree with me that small buds that may be less dense can still have the same potency. That makes me feel better.

My question wasn't answered the way I wanted and I think it had a lot to do with my lack of communication skills. So here I go again:

If I have 2 plants-one plant has 2 colas, the second plant has 12 colas where all of the colas are near equal in size and overall appearance, both plants have these colas at a even height receiving equal light--will one plant be more potent than the other? The only difference between these plants in quantity of flowers due to pruning.

My buddy told me that if a plant has too many colas that the potency will go down. Are there any opinions on this thought?

he's wrong. Potency relates to when your harvest really.

 

[Hammerhead]

I always top and train my plants so I end up with many bud sites. No it will not decrease the potency of the plant

 

[FRIENDinDEED]

Thanks for the responses everyone. I'm glad some other people agree with me that small buds that may be less dense can still have the same potency. That makes me feel better.

My question wasn't answered the way I wanted and I think it had a lot to do with my lack of communication skills. So here I go again:

If I have 2 plants-one plant has 2 colas, the second plant has 12 colas where all of the colas are near equal in size and overall appearance, both plants have these colas at a even height receiving equal light--will one plant be more potent than the other? The only difference between these plants in quantity of flowers due to pruning.

My buddy told me that if a plant has too many colas that the potency will go down. Are there any opinions on this thought?

obviously this "buddy" of your did his greatest work with advisin you to grow. now that you have grown a phenominal plant tell your "buddy" to sit his/her ass down while you do your thing.

to the "buddy" : AT NO POINT IN TIME ON ANY CANNABIS PLANT OF ANY VARIETY ANYWHERE CAN YOU HAVE OR THERE IS SUCH A THING AS TOO MANY BUDSITES!!!

there now that thats taken care of, nah dont worry about your plants, all those budsites means that you just may have a great pheno of that plant that responded really well to your training techniques.

most people want to get that much bud out of one plant on any given occasion, hell more budsites is the whole idea!!!

as far as the popcorn buds, best thing i can advise you to do is (at chop time) just cut off the main buds at the ends of the stems, and all those lower buds can be left on the plant and kept under 12/12 until they become more mature. and whats the worst,you end up with even more bud? lemme guess what does the "buddy" say about that? they cant be cut down after because they stayed on the plant too long? roflmao

anyway, keep growin the way you are, to be honest you should take pics and show us all what you did! i only use the bending and defoliating techniques because they work so well for me.

a plant with that many flowering main branches is a wondrous site for us growers!

 

[TribalSeeds]

Are you guys saying that a plant grown under a light 2 ft away will be just as potent as a plant under the same light 4-6ft away?

 

[trichrider]

i didn't get that.
the 'larf' gets me laughing. i even use the fan leaves! (not to smoke)...only thing i don't waste time on is the stems.
ime topping to get more colas also provides more larf too.
bet that 6.5 ounces was partly larf.
is your 'buddy' smoking it?

 

[Canniwhatsis]

Are you guys saying that a plant grown under a light 2 ft away will be just as potent as a plant under the same light 4-6ft away?

Well,... Given that I grow SCROG, and from soil to screen in my garden I'm only looking at 17" My soil is only about 3' away from the bare bulb. My underbud makes nice little nugs that for the most part aren't any different from the top colas after I remove the lumber from the center of em.

If your growing 6' trees indoors your NOT going to have a good even canopy nor will you get proper light penetration to the bottom of the plant, a 1kw HPS only penetrates about 2.5-3' into a canopy of buds with any real power,... so your bottom 3' of the plant are a waste unless you lace it with CFL or T5 lighting.

 

[Hammerhead]

why would you put the light 4-6' from the canopy? You would put the light as close as you can without any heat stress. The closer the light the better the penetration and denser buds.. Potency is from genetics. You can decrease the potency by growing the plant poorly. I trim off the first branches the plant grows when put into flower. I typically yield 4-6 oz per plant under 2 600's with 8 plant max. Got any pics??? Here is a plant I harvested. this girl was 4oz dried with rock hard buds.the largest bud was 11g..

 

[oneshot]

why would you put the light 4-6' from the canopy? You would put the light as close as you can without any heat stress. The closer the light the better the penetration and denser buds.. Potency is from genetics. You can decrease the potency by growing the plant poorly. I trim off the first branches the plant grows when put into flower. I typically yield 4-6 oz per plant under 2 600's with 8 plant max. Got any pics??? Here is a plant I harvested. this girl was 4oz dried with rock hard buds.the largest bud was 11g..

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I love all of your plants. They all look incredible.

 

[wilbur]

I 'm so commercially oriented I keep the popcorn to smoke for myself!

 

[Hammerhead]

I love all of your plants. They all look incredible.

Thanks anybody can do it. Just do your homework. Pay attention to your plants . The biggest mistake many make is they love there plants to death and dont know what went wrong ...

 

[Canniwhatsis]

why would you put the light 4-6' from the canopy? You would put the light as close as you can without any heat stress. The closer the light the better the penetration and denser buds.. Potency is from genetics. You can decrease the potency by growing the plant poorly. I trim off the first branches the plant grows when put into flower. I typically yield 4-6 oz per plant under 2 600's with 8 plant max. Got any pics??? Here is a plant I harvested. this girl was 4oz dried with rock hard buds.the largest bud was 11g..

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Here's one of my girls from the last run in my sig line, no clue what she pulled by herself,... but without trimming any of the under bud I'm thinking about 3.5z

5 plants, 600w + 400w,... 5.5 or so GPW,.... This girl was under the 400.

Is that too many buds for one plant?

 

[Hammerhead]

what else you got in there some berry's ??

 

[paper thorn]

Here's one of my girls from the last run in my sig line, no clue what she pulled by herself,... but without trimming any of the under bud I'm thinking about 3.5z

5 plants, 600w + 400w,... 5.5 or so GPW,.... This girl was under the 400.

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Is that too many buds for one plant?

I don't think so.