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Too dangerous for prince Harry?

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It seems the ordinary soldier is perfectly equipped to face death or disfigurement in the Middle East combat zone, but due to death threats Harry won't be going...

WTF???

He wants to go - but the powers that be are afraid for his life, and the soldiers who would be serving with him.

I thought that was the whole point of sending young men off to war - some of them are going to be killed. When is that option OK for some, but not for others?

His uncle fought in the Falklands - and handled himself fairly well by all accounts.

If I was a common brit soldier, I'd be a little pissed that the generals expect me to die, but won't put a blue blood in the same situation.

I'm no fan of any hereditary lineage - genetics are the least indication of the caliber of a person, and I find any monarchy to be an outdated form of population suppression. But c'mon - he wants to go.

Let him serve

ws
 
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Mr. Nevermind

while i understand its messed up that others have to go to war and he doesnt. He did want to go to Iraq and thats what he signed up for , many in his family have also served their country in times of war as well. However with every insurgent getting a boner thinking about killing the prince its silly to send him over. Besides that, i bet the people he is in command of are happy he aint going. Would you really want to ride around Iraq on patrol with Prince Bullseye riding around with ya? His presence would futher endanger the lives of the men serving under him. So i agree not to send him over




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If he is meant to be in that war he will be. War is a place for beings to work out karma SUPER quick. Maybe this isn't the way for him to do such. My blessings go out to all those involved in war, pain, and suffering.
 

Uncle Jesse

Active member
Prince bullseye kinda sums it up, you would have all kinds of evil doers pointing weapons
in his general direction just hoping a stray round tagged him .

better for the troops around him if he stays back.
 

Dan42nepa

Member
I think if he did go he would be in the safest possible place in Iraq. Wherever that would be which probably isnt anywhere. Goes to show you how fucked up things are over there that there isnt anywhere safe. How about afghanistan? Are the british over there also?
 
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OK - I hear what some of ya are saying.

The thing is - all of the coalition soldiers over there have bullseyes on them. US, Cdn, everybody is dying.

Last I heard, roadside bombs are not that discriminatory. Snipers at 1500 yds can't see his # in line to the throne. All soldiers have uniforms, insignias, etc.

Are his men any safer 'cause he's not there? Do we get to call "foul" if someone caps a poor brit soldier - but he's not with a royal, why shoot him?

I'm not slow or stupid, but I can't get my head around the fact the boys are dying over there - so 1 person is too important to go.

I hate war - I am a pacifist (sort of). Some things are worth fighting for - some things are worth dying for. But he is just a man, he is a trained leader of soldiers, his men are going over there, possibly to die, and his higher ups have decided that he's too important, or too big of a potential target, to fulfill the oaths he has sworn to carry out.

If the bad guys get him - how is that different than any of the other poor bastards that have had their heads hacked off, holes shot in them, or limbs blown off by bombs or boobytraps? I don't wish him harm, I don't wish anyone harm (on either side), but no one man is worth this amount of consideration.

I have sons - and if someone told me me children weren't important enough to protect, but a "royal" was, I'd kick some asses and take no names.

ws
 

DIRTYRASCALPIMP

New member
650k put up by al qaeda for his head, they dont offer that for just any soldiers head, and that would endanger him and the men around him
 

HuffAndPuff

Active member
WS, I hear what you're saying bro, and 49% of me totally agrees. The other 51% thinks that the troops aren't any safer without him there...But that they would be less safe if he was.

Plus, all soldiers aren't really equal. Are you an officer, or an enlisted grunt? Are you infantry, taking point, or are you a mechanic, "in the rear with the beer"?

Aside from issues of rank and role, dude is the prince of England- arguably the most recognized kid in Europe. Picture David Beckham joining up. It would be in nobody's best interests to have him on the front lines. Let alone in a war like this, where videotaped executions rule the day.

Just my 1 cent.

HAP
 
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Guest

...due to death threats?!?

Every soldier in the region gets daily death threats. I'm pretty sure many sects and groups have made themselves very clear they intent to kill ever westerner there. You know, it's sort of part of the risk of being a soldier. Someone may shoot, blow-up, chop, or deny benefits to you.
 

DIRTYRASCALPIMP

New member
yes due to death threats, yes every soldier is in danger, but you dont get it, the bounty on his head is what makes the situation different
 

fr33th3w33d

Member
^^ Understood.

other than that though.. didn't royalty always ride and fight in wars? what was good for king edward will be good for the prince. he needs to get his life straight. i even hear he's been smoking marijuana :yoinks:
 
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Guest

I understand the bounty - hell, Salman Rushdie has had a bounty on his head for yrs. And yet he somehow manages to walk and talk - appear in public, and get on with a reasonable semblence of a life. If there is a bounty on Harrys head - isn't he afraid to step outside the castle. I have no beef with Harry - hell, he's a pot smoker, so he's gotta be a decent guy.

The problem with governing your actions because of "threats" of violence is the same as capitulating to terrorists. What's next - these desert rats promise to kill any women they find, so are they gonna stop sending women? They are hacking the heads off American Jews - not gonna send any young Feinsteins over there?

IMHO - and I stress, IMHO, a soldier is a soldier. If it's OK for my sons and your sons to serve and possibly be injured and or killed, then it shouldn't matter whose kid is going.

It's like the guys jumping the border to Canada - enlisted in peace time, but won't serve in war. They weren't drafted - they volunteered.

Soldiering isn't ballet class - war is hell, and people die. Having different classes of who should be allowed to get killed, and for what reasons, is the same as having a caste system where some can get good jobs, and some clean toilets because of their birthright.

ws
 
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If im not mistaken those "Blue Bloods" have served with Honor, in every conflict Britton has ever been involved with.

Something they can be proud of.
 

Yummybud

Active member
Veteran
I'd be cool if the Queen enlisted lol, Queen armed with a submachine gun taken down the terrorists lol.
 
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SunBursT said:
If im not mistaken those "Blue Bloods" have served with Honor, in every conflict Britton has ever been involved with.

Something they can be proud of.
I concur - I gave his uncle props for fighting in the Falklands. He flew attack chopper, and was damned good.

No cowards there - the kid wants to go.

Again - I have no beef w/ Harry, I just find the rational behind the decision to be questionable.

And my mom is British - she lived thru the Blitz, and had friends houses (and the friends in them) cratered by buzz bombs. The brits are tough bastards - no dental care, but they don't back down.

ws
 
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lol

For a pissy old man, you sure have a great way with words...

Funny stuff

ws
 
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