tonight on 60 min medical marijuana.

[DIGITALHIPPY]

I didn't see it and I'm glad I didn't because it will on infuriate me more and I'm already pissed the **** off. The DEA are the biggest homegrown terrorist organization in the world as far as I am concerned.

I could give two rat shits about Osama Bin Laden and Al Quida. They aren't the ones bustin down doors with guns where I'm from. the DEA and all those other 3 letter organizations are.

yea they are, they just use bin laden etc as a front to errode away our rights, they already get away with just about every kind of illigal searching. tampering. extortion etc. ever read "The Patriot Act"? most unpatriotic thing ive ever read in my life.seams kind of funny if they tax us they get our money if they make it illigal they raid, and get our money. youd think theyd want to cheap route....

 

[Orangecrush]

I thought it was a pretty positive segment overall. One thing I did notice was that the the interviewer for CBS did not call it anything other than "pot" and anyone he interviewed referred to it as cannabis or marijuana.

And to those of you that were amazed at the my feet hurt from high heels, don't take that so seriously. I'm pretty positive that someone more than likely said that as a joke in the waiting room and the person n charge of the segment decided to use it to their own vantage.

I'm sure there are cases where medical marijuana is being abused, but I think that that little piece during the segment was meant to get a reaction from the viewers.

 

[Mr. Nevermind]

I think the segment was a setback for the legalization of MJ. Honestly all i saw were cowards on the air. How can you do a video saying **** the fed, then when the feds come you are scared out of your mind? That guy is a tool and half the reason MJ is still illegal.

I dont buy into the whole medical thing to be honest, i have more of a common sense campaign. I think that MJ being illegal is the biggest crock of shit and the fact that people try to play the med card is a sign you are scared to speak the truth. The truth is the only reason its illegal is that the government cant figure out how to tax it , plain and simple.

Has nothing to do wiht your health or gateway drug, its greed. If they can collect $$ on it then it would be legal. But they know that if it is legal and they try to sell MJ cigs in a store noone would buy em whne you can just grow your own. Its all a bunch of bullshit and everyone shoudl stop this medical campaign and just call em on their bullshit. Its illegal due to greed palin and simple.

I wont ever fight for the defense of MMJ, i fight for the legalization of MJ period. If the DEA and the FDA are worried about health and gateway drugs then they wouldnt have approved vioxx , alcohol or tobacco. But they can control is so its fine with them. How many people die each year from cigs? yet he governemt dont do shit but collect tax dollars on it. Not caring about their health.

Its all busllshit and people fighting for medical are playing into the bullshit and fighting a losing fight. Stand up and just say, i like to be high an there is nothing wrong wiht it.







Nevermind

 

[asa42]

wow mr nevermind you said a mouthfull! & i have to say i agree w/ the main point... there is nothing wrong w/just enjoying a good herb high!

& while i found the segment interesting the more i think about it seems it was another propaganda attempt worded so you think they are backing whatever side your w/.

 

[Stoner4Life]

nevermind.......
I can see your point and in a somewhat more perfect world it works as well. Perfect being or meaning that as soon as you catch someone in a huge lie and coverup (as the feds on cannabis legalization) and expose that coverup to the public that they must come clean, but that's not the case with the feds. They lie, cheat, harrass, arrest, jail, and murder their citizens in the name of an unwinnable drug war. It feeds BILLION$ of $$$$ into the system from law enforcement right through to the jails, parole & probations depts also.......

Now that being said we all know that they're NOT going to flip one day & legalize weed, ain't gonna happen. They are however legalizing medicinal use state by state....... and why? Cause a little bit at a time everyone's seeing that when granny smoked some weed to help with her chemo she didn't wig out, she just ate & gained weight and actually got healthier and likely with a better mental attitude which increases the success rates of cannabis using patients.

That mr nevermind is the foot in the door that fighting for medical cannabis use affords us all, gaining overall acceptance in the eyes of the public. First as a medicine & that makes sense too because who needs their weed more a stoner or a chemo patient?

I think the segment was a setback for the legalization of MJ. Honestly all i saw were cowards on the air. How can you do a video saying **** the fed, then when the feds come you are scared out of your mind? That guy is a tool and half the reason MJ is still illegal.

I dont buy into the whole medical thing to be honest, i have more of a common sense campaign. I think that MJ being illegal is the biggest crock of shit and the fact that people try to play the med card is a sign you are scared to speak the truth. The truth is the only reason its illegal is that the government cant figure out how to tax it , plain and simple.

Has nothing to do wiht your health or gateway drug, its greed. If they can collect $$ on it then it would be legal. But they know that if it is legal and they try to sell MJ cigs in a store noone would buy em whne you can just grow your own. Its all a bunch of bullshit and everyone shoudl stop this medical campaign and just call em on their bullshit. Its illegal due to greed palin and simple.

I wont ever fight for the defense of MMJ, i fight for the legalization of MJ period. If the DEA and the FDA are worried about health and gateway drugs then they wouldnt have approved vioxx , alcohol or tobacco. But they can control is so its fine with them. How many people die each year from cigs? yet he governemt dont do shit but collect tax dollars on it. Not caring about their health.

Its all busllshit and people fighting for medical are playing into the bullshit and fighting a losing fight. Stand up and just say, i like to be high an there is nothing wrong wiht it.


Nevermind

And I didn't see the 60minutes segment so I'm not giving an opinion one way or the other on that. I did hear however that some dispensary owning fool made some sort of antagonistic (against the feds) video and that will cost him dearly, just like Marc Emery bragging up his seed business and drawing federal attention to a sweet, quiet underground business that benefited many. Now these seed breeders/sellers have to tread ligthly or find their asses wanted by the alphabet boys here in the states. Next thing ya know the seed businesses will be forced to go underground when foreign govts. cave into the US pressures to close down the seed sellers or lose this US sponsored $$$Aid$$$ package. Happens every day in one form or another.

 

[MoeBudz^420]

Hey, I don't have tv, so I did not see the show...but...

IMO the solution is simple... just take the right path - personal grow permits for a fee, so gov can make $$ of it, while taking that $$ right out of the hands of crime.

ie) Said adult may grow up to say 10 plants at a cost of $20/plant for the permit. How much it costs you depends on how many you grow, anywhere from 20 for 1 to 200 for 10. Selling can remain illegal as far as I'm concerned, but if they want to regulate sales as well, that's their perogative...

All that's needed is to print permits, and enter a registry database on computer. Not hard to do at all. If cops were to come, the permit is framed on the wall. " OK, you're legal, Have a nice day"...

Some might think that rippage would be rampant, but don't forget if it's legal under a permit, theft laws can and would apply. (CCD video goes far in this case, as rippage usually happens when you're not around) Now multiply that permit cost at say 100 for 5 on average, times the number of ppl that'd jump on the bandwagon cuz theyre sick of paying skyhigh prices for smoke...millions of ppl countrywide.

I smell a mountain of cash for gov. that would make Everest look like a molehill. T'is the 1 and only way for gov. to beat the crime associated with the status quo... After all they created all these "problems"... and they can fix them.

But the right path must be taken to do so...

Peace

 

[Mr. Nevermind]

Stoner4 life,


I respect your views and your approach . I truly do, and perhaps your methods are better than mine. Im a stubborn man and when i see someone bullshitting me i cal em on it. With MJ we are being bullshitted and made to play the MMJ game. I dont see the point in registering and paying for a liscense or permit when alcohol drinkers dont have to. I dont see people wanting a beer going to a doctor for a note cuz they want a beer. When beer kills more people in a year than Mj ever will ( since you cant die from it) . i will not bow down and be treated any lesser than those whom are doing more and dont have to jump thru hoops to do it.

When you buy a pack of cigs or a 6 pack you dont need to give your name, your address and have a doctors note. So the same should apply with a substance that is thousands of time less harmful.


Maybe its cuz my father worked in civil rights that i think equal treatment is the only way. they way i saw struggle and how to overcome a suppressive government is to call em on it. Thats how i was raised. I respect you and your opinions though. How bout you fight your way and i'll fight mine and i'll meet you in the middle. As long as we are on the same side is all that matters



Nevermind

 

[Stoner4Life]

I agree and hate the lies as well but so far it's the only way the general public has voted toward any kind of legalization of cannabis, even local govts. have been accepting of it when it isn't abused (med weed then sold on the streets) in the eye of the public. And I HATE the way the govt. allows alcohol and cigarette sales to millions daily, shyt that kills our citizens every minute of the day.

Like I said above, I just don't think the govt. is going to flip its opinion and legalize any time soon, so one state at a time is how this is going to go imo.......

much respect amigo

 

[Mr. Nevermind]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Stoner4Life again.





cheers to you mate. Happy New year.




Nevermind

 

[Pops]

I believe that both of you have valid points. The religious right wing want the rights to force us to accept their screwed up morality. The government wants the right to tell us what to think,to read, to believe and what to put into our body(as long as they can make a profit on it.) In both cases ,we lose.

As in the case of prohibition(which brought about the 2nd largest crime wave in our country,),the illegalization of marijuana is a moral issue forced upon us by religious people who don't even understand the ramifications of their actions. Drug prohibition has caused the largest crime wave the world has ever seen. No one,unfortunately, has ever taken the time to explain to the general populace that every drug that has been made illegal has been done so for reasons of ethnic bigotry and profit by wealthy,influential individuals or corporations.

While marijuana should be legal for any adult individual who want to partake, we simply have too much propaganda to overcome. I believe that proper funding of medical marijuana experiments and the resulting good news that will come from that, will provide the information to combat the ridiculous claims made by the government and parroted by the media, who can't seem to come up with any real accurate research of their own.

Medical marijuana is a way of opening the door to legalization, and the government is shaking with fear because they see the damage that the truth could do to their desire to totally control the populace.