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Tom Hill Haze

Old Uncle Ben

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I was thinking more about places like Thailand and India where you'd be looking at summer temps of over 35-40C. But thanks for that. The other building blocks of haze are supposedly Mexico and Colombia.

I actually live in the sub tropics and get frequent temps above 35. Always used to mystify me when I read grow books that say that this is too hot for cannabis.

Point is well taken. After "issues" with pests(pythium rot and whiteflies) I have 2 tropical seedlings left that are stunted. I blame part of that on high heat in my greenhouse which can and does get up to 112F/44C until I blast it down with rain water couple times a day.

It's all about photosynthesis, carbon flags, respiration rates etc. I've grown a lot of pot and plants grown indoors under a temp day/night swing of 85/60F grow best. Too high night temps results in the plant using up food reserves to respiration as opposed to tissue production.

I'm moving my tropical seedlings under the lights, 14/10 photoperiod.
 

Raco

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Monkey Haze F2

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By the same size, it looks even more NLD than the THH P1 stock.... :)
 

Donald Mallard

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Interesting discussion @Chi13, @Donald Mallard.
From my personal experience I’ve never found limits in temp or water. Many days of +40 C has never worried my plants and inundation by over a metre of water was fine. I felt they can handle as much water as possible, it’s just needs a good soil structure to aid drainage and oxygen penetration. I had a few plants in a creek bed that went 3-4 foot under for 2-3 days in peak summer. Growth was off the charts, way more than Wally’s example. Friable alluvial soil and not a longer period of inundation, the plants were fine.
Not sure who wrote it (Clarke maybe) but I agree there’s a relationship between volume of water transpired and volume of plant material produced.
Once I achieved 10 feet in 10 weeks, in a patch of 10 plants. Just sweet timing in good volcanic soil, no watering required as rainfall was relentless and being the 90s, the genetics (from Coffs) were perfect. Hard to find those strains now.
Re Kanga’s location, totally unique, subtropical, overlap of two large climatic biomes, wet autumn’s, high heat Nov-March with ok but depleted soils. Pics look like Goonengary, Huonbrook way 🤐.
I’m pretty on par for lat., but long. puts me in better soils, higher temps and less but still high rainfall. I shake my head at people’s focus on Indica in the region. It’s good to have in your garden but sativas are meant to be here.
i feel the genetics back then were more vigorous ,
they dont seem as vigorous these days ..
would love to have some of that stuff from the 90s back again for sure man ...

kanga was in casino previously, he did a lot of work on his soil from memory ...
Forget Haze what I wanna know….

Are Hempy & Wally gonna hug it out over their mutual distaste of Canna T; common ground can do miraculous things; as they say :p!!
Unlikely ,
anyhow canna t is on holidays for a week from this thread ,
he was warned more than once ,
not a great idea telling old folks their favorite cannabis is shit continually ,
and not having any first hand experience of what they talk about ,
we know what we like ... lol ...
 

Chi13

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Interesting discussion @Chi13, @Donald Mallard.
From my personal experience I’ve never found limits in temp or water. Many days of +40 C has never worried my plants and inundation by over a metre of water was fine. I felt they can handle as much water as possible, it’s just needs a good soil structure to aid drainage and oxygen penetration. I had a few plants in a creek bed that went 3-4 foot under for 2-3 days in peak summer. Growth was off the charts, way more than Wally’s example. Friable alluvial soil and not a longer period of inundation, the plants were fine.
Not sure who wrote it (Clarke maybe) but I agree there’s a relationship between volume of water transpired and volume of plant material produced.
Once I achieved 10 feet in 10 weeks, in a patch of 10 plants. Just sweet timing in good volcanic soil, no watering required as rainfall was relentless and being the 90s, the genetics (from Coffs) were perfect. Hard to find those strains now.
Re Kanga’s location, totally unique, subtropical, overlap of two large climatic biomes, wet autumn’s, high heat Nov-March with ok but depleted soils. Pics look like Goonengary, Huonbrook way 🤐.
I’m pretty on par for lat., but long. puts me in better soils, higher temps and less but still high rainfall. I shake my head at people’s focus on Indica in the region. It’s good to have in your garden but sativas are meant to be here.
I used to live in the great dividing range behind Coffs and we would often drive down to pick mushrooms in Bellingen, and score weed. Some of the genetics from around Coffs in the 80s were incredible! We picked up a hippy hitch hiker once who paid us in buds to drive him home. Gave us half a bag of the most incredible stuff. Happy days.

It almost can't get too hot for cannabis provided you do right by the plant.

And as bananas were brought up earlier, some very tasty bananas from Coffs and Tully, both hot areas.
 

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