Tom Hill Haze

[Stoneguru]

not sure id want to smoke any reversed bud but to give an overall impression of resin quality or specific terpenes it could well help.

I wouldn't either. It gives as close of an indication as any female plant. The range of genetic diversity of any pollination covers the field of potential from there.

Many times the stem rub and tall narrow plant I thought would be the stud is the dud and something less assuming has the profile and trichome development I had associated.

Just short of the smoke test. It also is good for identifying the male in contrast to the selected females to learn more about how the interrelationships perform in reality. In particular the outliers of either parent that may then be useful in further invigorating the line.

It adds another layer to the experience to pass the time at the very least

 

[StickyBandit]

Wasn't tom saying in a podcast he collects more late male pollen vs early male pollen to ensure a more even open pollination.

something like that...

I did what i thought was a carefull pollination and then made the mistake of linking up the male area as intake air for the female area.

I hope i actually get something to smoke. It looks all seed

You make a good point and one I'll have to take into account, thanks
Yeah I remember him saying something like that. What I'll have to do is give the males the good area near the final extractor and keep the females in the tents upstream (my grow room is like a hallway) until after pollen collection and dispersal

 

[StickyBandit]

You'd get some flack, but there is likely enough of a window to reverse a branch of a favorite female.

If you start hitting the same branch of your favorite males with florel now you will have a female branch exhibiting profile, and trichome development by the time pollen starts dropping.

It sounds like more work, but when you consider how much time it saves in which males you chose to hunt in the future it potentially saves far more effort in the long run.

You'll have to teach me the correct process for using the Florel. I purchased some a few months back after reading one of your posts
I want to keep this run pure with zero risk of contamination or problems then I will have to jump straight back onto growing some family favorites again to keep them happy THEN I will be able to do my own thing again
I'm sure there will be some stem rubbing and sniffing going down in the near future and a few clones taken perhaps to reverse for male selection, maybe I'll keep clones of a large male population...
Thanks for the input Stoney well worth considering

 

[StickyBandit]

I should still be able to select a few females though, even fully seeded they should exhibit the traits Tom recommended. I think he said trichome head size, field density and sour apple/green mango aroma were things to look out for

 

[Stoneguru]

You'll have to teach me the correct process for using the Florel. I purchased some a few months back after reading one of your posts
I want to keep this run pure with zero risk of contamination or problems then I will have to jump straight back onto growing some family favorites again to keep them happy THEN I will be able to do my own thing again
I'm sure there will be some stem rubbing and sniffing going down in the near future and a few clones taken perhaps to reverse for male selection, maybe I'll keep clones of a large male population...
Thanks for the input Stoney well worth considering

I was thinking about limits of space and efficiency on a hunt like this too. I usually don't catch the backup cuts till the last part of stretch or a month in. Mostly to avoid transplanting again before finishing long flower plants.

I have also taken cuts and forgotten them in the flower room and they seemed to continue their flowering timing despite losing 7-10 days to rooting.

If the goal is only to identify quality of the end product and around 100 seed you could potentially accomplish both from this point in 1/4 the end space without losing more than a week. This could probably be done around the solstice when you begin sexing.

It's quite an undertaking. You put a lot of good energy out there so you'll likely beat Toms 5%. There is a 20% chance you'll be over 20%

 

[led05]

You'll have to teach me the correct process for using the Florel. I purchased some a few months back after reading one of your posts
I want to keep this run pure with zero risk of contamination or problems then I will have to jump straight back onto growing some family favorites again to keep them happy THEN I will be able to do my own thing again
I'm sure there will be some stem rubbing and sniffing going down in the near future and a few clones taken perhaps to reverse for male selection, maybe I'll keep clones of a large male population...
Thanks for the input Stoney well worth considering

Florel = ethephon, ethylene precursor - actually Florel is a very expensive way to buy ethephon but it’s premixed / diluted so easy to use out the bottle.

You wont contaminate anything (widely used to thin fruit) it’ll just flip the branch you spray on your male plant into female, use it like you would sts/cs

Cool project you’ve got going; enjoy !