acespicoli
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Tom Hill Haze
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So only 5% are worthwhile? Sounds challenging
You up for the challenge star crash?
So only 5% are worthwhile? Sounds challenging
5% are out of this world. I am digging the longer flowering ones.
Ghost Protocol
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So only 5% are worthwhile? Sounds challenging
Sam used to have some dreamer maths where only 5-10% were shit but it was not accurate. shanti and co had similar dreamer maths a keeper in every pack ble bleble. But yeah thats the reality about 5%. We all of us in this thread are sick lol. Until you find one you will not understand.
I already understand
I already understand
in my opinion it is like in lottery. you have certain probability to win, so according to that probability you should buy certain amount of lottery tickets. but it doesn't guarantee you a win. and you can also win with only one ticket. it is called luck.
RingtailCanyon
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How were those 40?
acespicoli
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sure someone is holding 5% cuts 
sure someone is holding 5% cuts
Not even Sam or you would have heard about them by now from somebody besides him lol. They would be worth holding. The 2-500 in the '70's translates to $1,000 oz's now. I know i would pay it too lol. We dont sell it we dont even share it haha precious.
MadMac
far beyond driven...
my fav THH
full metallic smell... she is more lime... but i'll had to recover her when i'll got them back...
from all i've grown... this is one of the 5% i'll would say... but not a superb' yielder
here she is while making seeds...
love this stuff....
nothing better to me as those different O-Haze lines...
keeps you up and doing...
and best for music and art...
i'll always have a pure haze in my grow circle...
can not live without anymore ;-)
it's my drug for creativity and great coding...
so happy i#ll got my hands on in my grow life...
it changed all... completely ... had my freedom before ...
but since i'll got my hands on the THH...
changed my life positive ...
and hopeful all who got those pure haze love...
haze is the queen...
M.
full metallic smell... she is more lime... but i'll had to recover her when i'll got them back...
from all i've grown... this is one of the 5% i'll would say... but not a superb' yielder
here she is while making seeds...
love this stuff....
nothing better to me as those different O-Haze lines...
keeps you up and doing...
and best for music and art...
i'll always have a pure haze in my grow circle...
can not live without anymore ;-)
it's my drug for creativity and great coding...
so happy i#ll got my hands on in my grow life...
it changed all... completely ... had my freedom before ...
but since i'll got my hands on the THH...
changed my life positive ...
and hopeful all who got those pure haze love...
haze is the queen...
M.
acespicoli
Well-known member
carpe diem
I made two crosses where I used toms haze mothers. first is mextasy(cedar haze x oaxacan79), currently growing cut of it. super loud terps, very citric, cola spices and incensy woodiness...
and second with my acid haze, and male was black vietnamese backross. my friend Limeygreen grew it and call it acid beauty, although it can be called jungle tripweed:
and second with my acid haze, and male was black vietnamese backross. my friend Limeygreen grew it and call it acid beauty, although it can be called jungle tripweed:
I made two crosses where I used toms haze mothers. first is mextasy(cedar haze x oaxacan79), currently growing cut of it. super loud terps, very citric, cola spices and incensy woodiness...
and second with my acid haze, and male was black vietnamese backross. my friend Limeygreen grew it and call it acid beauty, although it can be called jungle tripweed:
How did the hybrids compare with the parent lines? Did you see improvement and increased vigor?
classic difference between inbred line and first generations hybrid. I dont think toms haze is not vigorous, you think so? sure better yield, bigger buds at hybrids.. I would not use the word "improvement" I mean how could you "improve" acid pheno?
there is nothing like it... but guys found trippy plants easily, more easier than in toms haze probably, so maybe this is "improvement"? hybrids are different. it is difference between drinking pure whiskey or whiskey in cocktail. to smoke haze hybrid means to smoke haze in cocktail I give you example to illustrate the difference. when I find superior pheno of toms haze, I keep it protectively.. and I am afraid of loosing it... at grandfunk cut I am not afraid at all, because I know that when I will pop 20 seeds, I will find it again. that's not case with toms haze... that is the main difference...
After some discussion I think that was what Tom was trying to imply when he kept saying that we don't want to loose our original THH seed plants. After the eat ya meat or you don't get any pudding and all I PM'd him that I had already open pollenated and that I was looking at which of the originals to keep. His response (classic Tom) left me pondering what he was getting at. I am pretty certain that's what he was trying to indirectly infer as I had also told him that both of the longer blooming ones were the most psychoactive.
Makes more sense now. If you have 2 things that are far superior to everything else why the hell would I be looking to give either the axe?
Careful with that axe Eugene!
LT
I will add that it will be a while before I am sure that I have those 2 girls identified since I forgot to label the cuttings somehow. Well I did actually but I cut the tags off the drying plants so I wasn't able to id them.
yes, it takes a lot of work and years of work. curing took some time too... I grow it from 2009. some seem to judge it quickly... grow one pack and it is clear for them and talk about it like they would know the line say something like it is metallic haze... or there is no incense etc.. but there are so many wonderful phenos, just hidden there... I had many good phenos, like ripe mango one(not green mangos, or sour mangos - these are different) and I kept it for three years, it was great and everybody said wow, but it just didn't keep up there with acid haze. same with silver pheno. it was hard to let it go, but if you want to have the best, there is no compromise... some of us got incense in toms haze outcrosses...
at 2015 I have about 5 keepers of toms haze from my previous grows around 40 females, and mango, silver and chocolate pheno(you dont see any mention of it from boards experts) didnt make it till today, and red pheno I lost in police raid... but still I have cedar pheno(you dont see anybody would mention it...) and acid pheno...
also to fully understand how particular pheno works, you need to have more environment than one to test it. thats why I would avoid breeders who olny breeds it indoor, as it is problematic, as indoor environment is not friendly to tropical genes.. everytime I grow particular pheno, it is slightly different. so one grow or few grows in same environment doesn't teach you so much like when you grow it in various enviro nments... I will always say that original haze is genial greenhouse plant, grows there fantastic, indoor not so... it suffers indoors. hybridizing helps indoor a lot...
there is no rule for finding keepers, more narrow leaf or longer flowering is not sign of it. some sativa guys think that... it is all about freaks!
say something like it is metallic haze... or there is no incense etc.. but there are so many wonderful phenos, just hidden there... I had many good phenos, like ripe mango one(not green mangos, or sour mangos - these are different) and I kept it for three years, it was great and everybody said wow, but it just didn't keep up there with acid haze. same with silver pheno. it was hard to let it go, but if you want to have the best, there is no compromise... some of us got incense in toms haze outcrosses...at 2015 I have about 5 keepers of toms haze from my previous grows around 40 females, and mango, silver and chocolate pheno(you dont see any mention of it from boards experts) didnt make it till today, and red pheno I lost in police raid... but still I have cedar pheno(you dont see anybody would mention it...) and acid pheno...
also to fully understand how particular pheno works, you need to have more environment than one to test it. thats why I would avoid breeders who olny breeds it indoor, as it is problematic, as indoor environment is not friendly to tropical genes.. everytime I grow particular pheno, it is slightly different. so one grow or few grows in same environment doesn't teach you so much like when you grow it in various enviro nments... I will always say that original haze is genial greenhouse plant, grows there fantastic, indoor not so... it suffers indoors. hybridizing helps indoor a lot...
there is no rule for finding keepers, more narrow leaf or longer flowering is not sign of it. some sativa guys think that... it is all about freaks!
