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Tobacco users
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EatCannabisRaw
^ way to be a little whiney bitch.
if you have something to add say it, otherwise don't
if you have something to add say it, otherwise don't
every now and then i like to put a bit of uncured Nicotiana rustica under my tongue
interesting...
got to make some Ambil one of these days like the jungle peeps do...that should be interesting...
interesting...
got to make some Ambil one of these days like the jungle peeps do...that should be interesting...
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EatCannabisRaw
lc00p4 - are you ***ing serious? you come on here to tell -ME- what i get giddy from?
brainless. the effect i get from additive free american spirits is totally different than a sugar-cured tobacco cigarette like camels.
get a life. don't come on here and try to tell me this ****. you probably have never even SMOKED a cigarette. your just as bad as those DARE anti-marijuana people. pfffff piss off
brainless. the effect i get from additive free american spirits is totally different than a sugar-cured tobacco cigarette like camels.
get a life. don't come on here and try to tell me this ****. you probably have never even SMOKED a cigarette. your just as bad as those DARE anti-marijuana people. pfffff piss off
are you even sure that smoking sugar does anything? i've smoked lots of laced buds in sugar and i'm pretty sure the only way you can feel the effects of sugar is through metabolization. you are a fool for thinking that smoking sugar soaked tobacco could be like smoking crack. look at the camels under a blacklight and you will see what you are smoking. you get giddy from additives, not smoking sugar. the reason i don't smoke cigs is because my dad died from smoking, so you f*ck off! most important life lesson i learned.
just the smell of chew when some one is near me w/ that shit makes me nauseous.
I'm also highly alergic to tobacco smoke....it immediatly makes me very nauseous, dizzy, and hot/cold flashes (like a fever). My parents didn't smoke or chew, and none of my friends ever did.....I'm just almost never around it.
I'm also highly alergic to tobacco smoke....it immediatly makes me very nauseous, dizzy, and hot/cold flashes (like a fever). My parents didn't smoke or chew, and none of my friends ever did.....I'm just almost never around it.
Nokuy, I think it's one of those things that either you're never around it, or you're around it all the time because that's the type of place you live in and everyone sees chewin' as normal.
I guess you can gauge the location you're at by seeing if people around you chew. If so, get the hell out of there ('specially if you're of the darker persuasion)
I guess you can gauge the location you're at by seeing if people around you chew. If so, get the hell out of there ('specially if you're of the darker persuasion)
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Try dipping other herbs besides tobacco for a nice buzz.... Iamshaman.com....I believe. There are much tastier herbs out there with lil stronger effects if prepared properly. Some of it is very enlightening as well... a new experience.
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Joe Budden
gotta love the dippin 
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EatCannabisRaw
lc00pa - there are a lot of theories for why modern day cigarettes are bad
- grown with radioactive commerical fertilizer
- flue-cured with/without sugar and yeast which seems to be bad
- companies have added tons of additives
if you stay away from cigarettes then you don't have to worry about stuff. but blaming the death of your father on smoking might just be making you feel better, it may not be the real truth. it seems its very common to blame EVERYTHING on smoking...when if you do a bit of research you quickly realize the whole "smoking is bad" mantra is not built on as solid evidence as you are led to believe.
i stand by my statement that moderate smoking of say, organic air-dried tobacco....cigars or cigarettes... is not really that bad for you...and can even be pro-health as far as stress is concerned.
personally i don't even smoke that much so I don't care.... I never have been addicted to american spirits...I even let myself smoke 3 times a day for 6 months to see if i would become addicted and I didn't. I just stopped. I'm sure if I was smoking the sugared cigarettes I would be a lot MORE addicted since I wouldn't be getting those super fast glucose hits...
And yes, I do think a lot of the addictiveness relates to sugar. Sugar is a really refined product in itself.. Do you know how many steps it takes to make sugar? And then think about smoking that. Smoking something into your lungs is like another refinement process of its own. You get to bypass the stomach and liver and go straight to the bloodstream. Thats why I compare it to crack. Obviously its not "CRACK" but u get my point I hope. Smoked sugar. Yum.
In my opinion, -THAT- is how the tobacco companies hook you. The sugar. And maybe some other additives they put in there, like chocolate or other things that have a quick effect when smoked.
- grown with radioactive commerical fertilizer
- flue-cured with/without sugar and yeast which seems to be bad
- companies have added tons of additives
if you stay away from cigarettes then you don't have to worry about stuff. but blaming the death of your father on smoking might just be making you feel better, it may not be the real truth. it seems its very common to blame EVERYTHING on smoking...when if you do a bit of research you quickly realize the whole "smoking is bad" mantra is not built on as solid evidence as you are led to believe.
i stand by my statement that moderate smoking of say, organic air-dried tobacco....cigars or cigarettes... is not really that bad for you...and can even be pro-health as far as stress is concerned.
personally i don't even smoke that much so I don't care.... I never have been addicted to american spirits...I even let myself smoke 3 times a day for 6 months to see if i would become addicted and I didn't. I just stopped. I'm sure if I was smoking the sugared cigarettes I would be a lot MORE addicted since I wouldn't be getting those super fast glucose hits...
And yes, I do think a lot of the addictiveness relates to sugar. Sugar is a really refined product in itself.. Do you know how many steps it takes to make sugar? And then think about smoking that. Smoking something into your lungs is like another refinement process of its own. You get to bypass the stomach and liver and go straight to the bloodstream. Thats why I compare it to crack. Obviously its not "CRACK" but u get my point I hope. Smoked sugar. Yum.
In my opinion, -THAT- is how the tobacco companies hook you. The sugar. And maybe some other additives they put in there, like chocolate or other things that have a quick effect when smoked.
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it makes me feel better to blame his death on smoking because what else is there to blame it on? he was 40 years old when he died and suffered a heart attack. usually he would smoke a pack or 2 a day. if the surgeon general doesn't believe that smoking causes cancer, he/she would not put the label on cig packs.
unless you can prove that smoking sugar makes it more addictive since it enters the bloodstream faster, then i will believe otherwise. if you smoke cocaine non-freebased by itself, it will not do a single thing to you. sugar needs to be metabolized in the stomach.
yes, it is common to blame everything on cigs, but how are you going to back up companies who dwell on people's addictions? why do cig companies create anti-smoking campaigns on themselves? seems fishy to me... i find it funny that people trade off health for stress relief. try squeezing a ball or something. nicotine is what is addictive, not the sugar.
if there is not solid enough evidence on why smoking is bad, where is the evidence to prove that it is good for you? maybe after you've been diagnosed with lung cancer you will feel different. why do you think lots of bars banned smoking? non-smokers were getting diagnosed with cigarette related conditions, ie. lung cancer, throat cancer, etc. not to mention high blood pressure.
unless you can prove that smoking sugar makes it more addictive since it enters the bloodstream faster, then i will believe otherwise. if you smoke cocaine non-freebased by itself, it will not do a single thing to you. sugar needs to be metabolized in the stomach.
yes, it is common to blame everything on cigs, but how are you going to back up companies who dwell on people's addictions? why do cig companies create anti-smoking campaigns on themselves? seems fishy to me... i find it funny that people trade off health for stress relief. try squeezing a ball or something. nicotine is what is addictive, not the sugar.
if there is not solid enough evidence on why smoking is bad, where is the evidence to prove that it is good for you? maybe after you've been diagnosed with lung cancer you will feel different. why do you think lots of bars banned smoking? non-smokers were getting diagnosed with cigarette related conditions, ie. lung cancer, throat cancer, etc. not to mention high blood pressure.
EatCannabisRaw said:
Hm. I smoked pack a day for 13 or 14 years. I was able to quit very easily also. But I smoked across the board.. Marlboro, Newport, Camel,American Spirits, Nat Sherman.. was pretty easy to quit still. My mother.. won't quit until she's dying from it. My dad.. quit easily too.
I think people experience quitting differently or are a lot more addicted than others and it has nothing to do with sugar or no sugar.
anything addictive combined with addictive personalities will lead to nothing but trouble. it all depends on the user, which will then determine the outcome. sadly enough, it happens to good people who deserve better . my dad was a hardcore marlboro guy if that makes a difference or not. nothing else but the red and white pack.
. my dad was a hardcore marlboro guy if that makes a difference or not. nothing else but the red and white pack.
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idontgivenames
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you guys do know that if you smoked sugar it would caramelize?
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EatCannabisRaw
just had a "normal" cigarette yesterday... felt good...but within a certain period of time my glucose levels dropped or something and i was craving another one. i never get that with american spirits...
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Guest
Cigarettes stunted my growth, I still smoke em everyone now and then anyway, especially with no weed. What on Earth is dipping anyway, it's definitely not a European thing.
