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To grow OR not to grow

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Stevius

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Hi mates!

Finally I got my account aprooved... dont know why it took so long.

Anyway, I need your opinion guys.
My parents are going to move out of the house to grandmothers. Since she died they decided to renovate the house and live there. I expressed my wishes that I would like to stay here and my father was very happy for it. So we decided that I will have to pay 400 € per month plus eletric bills, water etc. because they took credit from bank and this is the way to help them pay off the debt.
I asked one of my good friends if he would like to live with me so we can split the expenses and we could build a GROW ROOM! He sayd yes and now we are only waiting for my parents to move out (which will be in the next 3-6 months).

Now the dilema is that, if we change one room into grow room, I dont know what will my parents think if they come to visit and they see all the lights, vents, plants....you know,... they might think "this is a laboratory for drugs!"

So I was really thinkin about the situation and I camed with a solution:

- I remember the first time they cought me with weed and it was a real shit! Words like: "This doesnt lead to anything... only to death" and similar non-sense

- After a while they accepted it but they really didnt knew what is marihuana actually and how much I am using it. They had their heads filled with false stereotypes about weed.

- Now, my plan was to "open the minds" of my parents. I didnt had to do it to my dad because he used to smoke and he was more acceptable about the whole thing. So I put my efforts in "changing my mother"

And yes, after a looooooot of attempts I DID IT. She started to think differently about weed. I busted out of her head stupid stereotypes like "if you smoke you will end up on crack".
After each and every conversation I told her more and more about weed and other drugs.
I cant believe that few days ago I was explaining to her the differences between Indica and Sativa plants, how much does the weed cost, how much I smoke (every single day :) )
So it really seems that she accepted the whole marihuana thing.

So I really hope that, if it ever happens, and she see the grow room wont be such :cuss: :bashhead: :spank:


I was also thinking to pay a visit almost every day when they move in the new house, so they wont have any reasons to come at my place "to see me".


But still I am not 100% to do it.

What do you guys think?

Should I grow it? Or not?


P.s.: I planted a small plant and put it on the window. When she saw it she asked: "I hope that this isnt one of those yours greeny stuff?" and I just smiled and sayd nothing and it seemed that she was fine with it. After few minutes father droped buy (cause he heard my mother asking what I planted) and he comes to me with lots of interest in his eyes and askes me quetly: "what did you plant? Where?" and I sayd "there.... it is on the window" he took a look, smiled and went away..,
 

magiccannabus

Next Stop: Outer Space!
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Use your gut feeling on this one. What does honest assessment of the situation yield?

How handy are you? Are you skilled enough to add a secret room to the basement?
 

B420

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Sounds kinda sketchy to me. You don't want to risk things for your parents. While you may be the one living there it sounds as if they are the ones who own the property. Don't endanger their property by growing without them fully knowing, they could eventually end up losing the house because of it. Or if you are going to grow there make sure it is stealthy and no damage to the house. Consider some grow room enclosures you can buy them or DIY if your handy. Also be cautious with the roommate, when I started growing a few years back I started the venture with a roommate. More hassle than it is worth, ended up he got tired of the daily grow maintenance and I ended up doing it all, which was no problem until he thought he was entitled to as much of the finished product as he wanted to give away to friends. Also it violates the golden rule of growing which is tell no one. Good luck
 

I2KanGrow

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My opinion - you're putting your parents at risk legally... and you're parents, who pay the electric bill WILL know that something is up.

Why not wait till you're really on your own, before you start to grow?
 
If you're still living with the folks, I'd recommend trying something outdoors. You would only need a couple plants to have enough smoke for a year, and then you only have to worry about hiding what you harvested. Plus if something WERE to happen where the police show up, they wouldnt be able to properly defend against the piggys tactics (trying to come in and look around), because they would have no idea they were at risk in the first place.
 

lordbudly

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I2KanGrow said:
My opinion - you're putting your parents at risk legally... and you're parents, who pay the electric bill WILL know that something is up.

Why not wait till you're really on your own, before you start to grow?
he says he pays electric
 

LiLWaynE

I Feel Good
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dont do it....

if you do decide to grow, get a job and pay the bills yourself...

you dont want anyone else involved
 

killabrown420

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for just 2 people you could get by having a small grow cab in a closet or something. i wouldn't jump into the deep end and setup an entire room and go big the first time growing. it's much easier to control a small enclosed environment than a big room with multiple lights.

i'll second what B420 said too. you can do everything right for months only to have a failure because a roomate forgot to water, or slept in and didn't have time, etc... I had a few crops over the years get messed up because of irresponsible roomates. If you keep it small, it won't be too much work for 1 person, which will probably be you..hehe You can try to split costs/work/harvest, but someone always ends up doing more than the other. If I could do it over again I would build dual cabs and what you grow and harvest is what you smoke. That would force the other person to participate. Make it like a competition, who can grow the best buds.
 

killabrown420

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and i'll second what lil' wayne said. but by now your buddy obviously knows your planning to grow so it might be hard to pull that off.
 

Hydro-Soil

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Congrats on spreading the truth about cannabis. :)
We all thank you.


Now..... Thank yourself by telling your would be roomate that you've changed your mind and you're not going to risk growing in a house that you don't own. The last thing you need is a roomate for something like this. The security risk is just too great.

Go and get yourself a cabinet.

While you're slowly buying parts for it, learn more about growing.


Just start small with a private grow. Hell, you can do it in such tiny spaces it's unreal and the costs are much lower for a smaller learning grow.

Once you've played with the plants for a few months and gotten a grow or two under your belt, you'll be ready to size up with the know how and insight you'll need to make the correct decision.

Good luck! Just be careful and be persistent :)
 

Stevius

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Well I didnt intend to make weed for money. This is the last thing on my mind.
I just want to get rid of all the dealers and every week buying 5 grams for 35 €.
I want to have weed only for smoking and NOT doing some bussines.

I love to go to work and I love working hard! And to be honest.... the work I do (gardening) it is always dependable on the weather. For example: from beginning of december until now there was no job because it is winter it is cold, wet and it is impossible to work. So if I put money for weed out of the calculation, there is no problem paying the rent, water, eletricity, food etc. I jsut need free weed. That`s all. Im tired of spending 200 - 300 € per month for weed. But I do like to smoke. And there is nothing to change that. Besides... best things in life should be free ;)


I never built a grow room (only seen a lot fo them and helped a few) and this friend of mine has experiences and also he already has the equipment needed.


I have a room wich is aprox. 1,40 m wide / 1,80 m long / 2,30 high

I was thinkin to make the whole room for growing. But now that I have different opinions maybe it would be better to put it in a closet.

I heard about some grow boxes. Are this things any good?
 

NiteTiger

Tiger, Tiger, burning bright...
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I agree with Hydro and B420.

Also, I would like to thank you for dispelling the lies that surround this plant.

However, I'm going to get a bit harsher with you than these other guys. Don't get hurt, please, I just absolutely have to drill some points home.

Dear God man, there is so much wrong in your post you're fuckin' scaring me. Any grower within 300 km (since you're European, I believe :D) is praying right now that you're nowhere near them.

First - Roommate?! Are. You. Out. Of. Your. Mind? Fucking hell man, are you really going to trust your freedom, potentially years of your life to someone else?! You've really got to step back, and rethink this entire thing since you've mentioned it to him. He gets drunk and decides to impress the pretty girl by telling her what a bad boy he is - blammo, you're done. You lose control of your security, and you're just counting days man. Do not do this. There are no such thing as partners, there are only the accused and the guy who turned state's evidence.

Second - Your parents seeing your grow?! How can this even be possible?? Your grow should be tighter than a grasshoppers asshole! Your parents come over, all they should see think is what great care you're taking of the place. If they try to go towards the grow room, you tell them that's the room mate's (the one you DON'T have) room, and it wouldn't be appropriate. That also explains the key lock on the door.

Also, you sound young. Are you prepared to give up your social life? No one gets to go to your place. No parties. No hanging out. Have them over for a reserved cook out or something, maybe once a year. Just a few folks, nothing more.

I desperately plead with you, stop. Take about ten steps backwards. Use the 3-6 months to study here like you're life depends on it. It really does. Cops aren't your only fear. Hell, that's the best option if your security crashes.

What if it gets to the wrong ear? Some guys decide to take this guy down for pounds of green. Don't think for a minute it can't happen.

Please take the time to thoroughly rethink this. All the information you need is here, from security to setup to cabinets. I beg you.
 
I whole-heartedly agree with NT.

NEVER TELL ANYONE.

NEVER risk property that's not YOURS.

And never EVER TELL ANYONE.

But it's YOUR freedom to play russian rhuolette with.

I'm not growing atm since I'm in an apt.

When I can get back into a house, I MAY resume when I know I don't have a landlord to come poking around. But not before then. I VALUE my freedom like I do the air I breathe.

I recently took on a 'consulting' job and moved into a co-worker/friends basment to help him get set up. I was living basically rent free, and we set up a beautiful room (hidden) to start a good size grow. Everything was going fine as frog hair until his g/f went to the doc and changed her birth control. To make a long story short, her hormones went wacky and she wigged out and I decided in the interest of my own freedom it would be best to move out.
Moral of the story: DTA PERIOD!!!! EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It's YOUR call Stevius

Best regards,

SPM
 

green_grow

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your grow room is way bigger than necessary to provide smoke for 2 people, which makes me wonder. nite tiger has pretty much covered everything. the "i'm a bad boy" factor should NOT be ignored. at least 4 people will wind up knowing about this grow, probably a lot more.
if a fire starts, the insurance company will never rest until they have connected it to your 'personal' grow, and they WILL claim the policy is voided by the illegal activity, potentially costing your parents hundreds of thousands of dollars.

plan an outdoor grow, off in the country, or wait until you have your OWN place to grow in, and tell no-one. no partners.
 

barletta

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NiteTiger is right. Forget about (actively) growing for 6mo. Tell your roomate that you don't wanna put your parents at risk. Let your parents move away and visit a few times before you do anything.

In the meantime...

Read all that you can about growing, and being a grower. It IS a lifestyle change if it is illegal in your part of the world. How much you grow dictates how much of a lifestyle change it is. I advise you to start in a closet, or build a secret room as someone else suggested. TELL NO ONE. TELL NO ONE YOUR SCREEN NAME. If you have done either of these things, you MUST take steps to correct the mistake. Growing is GREAT, but worrying about security hiccups from the past is nerve wracking.

I made some mistakes when I first setup, and before I really had to worry about the mistakes, I rethought things, and moved far away to avoid any possible problems.

SECURITY IS #1!!!
 

FreezerBoy

Was blind but now IC Puckbunny in Training
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I'm going to agree with 99.44% of NiteTigers response. My only exception is to the social aspect which, I believe, need not be surrendered. If all you want is weed for one, you don't need a room or even half a closet. 0.2 - 0.4 square meters will bury you in weed. This can be easily done in a stealth, "hide in plain sight" scenario. I grow in the garage and all visitors are welcome. I commonly leave the garage door open all day long for the whole neighborhood to see. Others use filing cabinets, false walls, dressers, night stands ...

 
C

Classyathome

Not if parents are there - I'm a parent, and I'd be freakin' pissed if my kid pulled some shit like that.

Wait till it's just your ass that will be jailed - then don't tell ANYONE, and just do it.
 

Stevius

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So... After thinkin a while... I camed to this conclusion:

- No Grow room (It is really not safe to transform a whole room into a lab)

- I think I will put it in a closet ( 0,5 m long / 0,8 m wide / 2 m height )

Do you think this is enough of space to make so much weed that I can have it all year? I`d would be nice to have up to 60 g per month this is 720 g per year.
Is it hard to make 800 - 1000 g in such a small place?
 

Stevius

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Oh.... and yes.... does anybody now a good place to start learning? I mean... I do know all the basics but it is always good to know few things more.
 
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