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hempfield

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... am facut acest test comparand 150w hps cu 120w led, in acelasi spatiu, dar in 2 grow-uri consecutive. recolta a fost sensibil mai mica la led (max 20%), dar luand in calcul taria materialului finit si faptul ca e mai sanatos sa fumezi material mai putin si mai tare, as inclina catre led. cu ceva lumina suplimentala se poate rezolva frumos, insa cea mai mare diferenta este investitia initiala. am comparat wattaje diferite ca si cum ar fi acelasi consum datorita faptului ca ledurile promit eficienta mai buna de 150w la un consum de 120w. fapt care este oarecum normal datorita puterii concentrate intr-un spectru mai restrans.

Ai observat cumva vreo diferenta in ceea ce priveste mirosul degajat pe toata perioada growului, intre setupul cu HPS si cel cu LED ?

Nu stiu de ce, dar pe acceasi planta , in flower, la un grow cu CFL se simtea mirosul de la sapte poste, iar la un grow cu LED exclusiv, abia daca se simtea un iz, si asta numai atunci cand planta era atinsa. (SuperSkunk regular de la Sensi Seeds, culmea - dominant Sativa)
 

exploziv

pure dynamite
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nu am observat mare lucru in sensul asta, dar inca din perioada de veg se vedea ca plantele metabolizeaza mai repede sub led, consumul de apa fiind mai mare, cresterea fiind mai puternica si o maturizare mai rapida. Mirosul a fost destul de puternic in ambele cazuri, mai ales pe o clona de jack diesel care iti muta nasul din loc. daca nu cumva ai folosit clone, poate a fost doar o chestie legata de fenotipuri in cazul tau.
 

piramidon

recidivist icmag - OUT-ist convins - microgrower
Veteran
e nevoie iar de pareri:

avem 2 fenotipuri,

unul short and bushy, powerful skunky smell, on the indica side. (denumit a)

unul putin mai lungit, miros undeva intre menta si lemon, on the sativa side. (denumit b)

care v-ar avantaja mai mult?
m-am trezit si eu...:D
B! ;)

Si-s la fel de curios ca Vulpoiul de un side by side :good:
:chin:
io unul as fi foarte curios de un side by side, ceva in genul hps vs leduri asta daca n-ai facut-o deja :)

Alte sugestii ar fi sa incerci niste autoflower ca nu stai mult dupa ele, eventual ceva "bud colorat" (pink bud, etc)
Daca nu stii ce sa mai faci in plus, incearca sa suplimentezi spatiul ala cu CO2 pana la saturatie si vezi ce monstri-ti ies d-acolo :D
Mie mi-a ramas in cap kestia aia cu gheata carbonica, ma bate gandul sa cresc o serie in "ceata" si nu m-ar deranja deloc sa aflu first hand ce poate iesi. :tiphat:
 
Z

zomb

Have been this whole thread and dont understand shit... Even though it was fun, great pix, great work and really nice growercandy! :bongsmi:...a nice bong stoner with some red diesel from 'Green light district' CPH-DK made me do it :muahaha: Lets have a cake:pie:

Jeres sprog er omtrent lige så mærkeligt at læse som vores, haha!

Keep on growing brothers from Rumania and keep me posted if you find something of interest... Best luck Zombeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :clover:
 

exploziv

pure dynamite
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Cannabis Reduces Infant Mortality

Surprising connections between "Failure-to-Thrive" and Cannabinoids.

Image from a story about the Use Of Non-Psychoactive Cannabinoids In The Treatment Of Neurodegenerative Diseases from Science Daily

(NORTHERN CALIFORNIA) - Years ago, a friend of mine, a good Christian lady, had a child with "failure to thrive". She had CPS all over her, looking for even the tiniest trace of child neglect. They found none. The child was well cared for, but she just didn't seem that interested in eating. Her bottles often went half finished.

I believe that those bottles of formula, given from birth, were major part of the problem. Our bodies make chemicals called "endocannabinoids" that are closely related to THC and cannabidiol (CBD). Endocannabinoids control many bodily functions and are excreted into breast milk. When lactating female rabbits were injected with CBD, a non-psychoactive, plant-derived cannabinoid, there was "a significant accumulation of the drug in milk." [1]

Endocannabinoids are also detected in human and cow's milk, with the highest levels occurring the day after giving birth. This healthy dose of naturally-occurring endocannabinoids stimulates the suckling reflex in newborn mammals, including humans[2].

When newborn mice are given a chemical to block the effect between endocannabinoids and their CB receptors, the mice simply don't know how to eat. Yet, if the blocking agent is mixed with an equivalent amount of THC, the mice eat and grow normally[3].

CB receptors work kind of like an ignition switch. First, you need the right kind of "key" (the right-shaped cannabinoid) to go into the "keyhole" (the receptor) to turn on the "engine's" action (suckling, stopping pain or inflammation, or maybe killing a cancer cell). Phytocannabinoids (cannabinoids from plants, like THC) can mimic the effects of your endocannabinoids - they can turn on the same "ignition switches" as your body's own cannabinoids. The blocking agents (antagonists) are like sticking a broken key stub in the keyhole. You can't get a real key in, and the engine can't turn on.

Scientists have bred mice that do not have CB receptors. They are poor, sickly things, prone to all sorts of ailments. Some scientists believe that there are people like those mice, having fewer than normal, or dysfunctional, CB receptors. And infants born with this condition have growth failure resulting from an inability to ingest food, just like those newborn mice[4].)

If "failure to thrive" infants were being breast-fed, they would get at least some of their mother's normal endocannabinoids from her milk. If she were using cannabis, logically, her breast milk would contain not only her own endocannabinoids, but also the phytocannabinoids, THC and CBD. In CB receptor-deficient children, an extra dose of phytocannabinoids could make the difference between "failure to thrive" and a healthy child! However, since receptor deficiency is inheritable, the mother may be deficient, too, and unable to give her child sufficient amounts of endocannabinoids in her milk.

But all this is just conjecture on my part. Just me, grouping together various studies to make a theory about "failure to thrive" babies. Medical science surely isn't going to say that having Mom smoking a little pot in the evening is going to help her baby do better, is it?

Well, tonight, I found a study that seems to say just that! It's a sad little thing - an abstract of a study on the death of babies - yet vital facts can be learned from those soulless statistical studies. This one gave the infant death rates per 1,000 live births, and the drugs, if any, that the mother used during pregnancy.

A total of 2,964 babies were drug-tested at birth to see if they were positive for drugs - cocaine, opioids or cannabis were studied. 44% of the infants tested positive for all varieties of drugs, including the 3 being studied. During the first two years of their lives, 44 babies from the original group died. Since statistics are a drag to slog through, I'll cut right to the chase - the deaths per thousand live births - the numbers tell the story.

"No drugs at birth" deaths....... 15.7 deaths per 1000 live births

"Cocaine positive" deaths.......17.7 deaths per 1000 live births

"Opiate positive" deaths.......18.4 deaths per 1000 live births

"Cannabis positive" deaths.... 8.9 deaths per 1000 live births

The cocaine and opiate babies have a higher death rate than the "No drugs" babies - that was to be expected. But look at the "cannabis" babies! Having extra cannabinoids in their bodies at birth (and likely later, from 2nd-hand exposure, or breast milk) seems to have some sort of a protective effect. The "cannabis" infants have a mortality rate almost half of what the "No drugs" infants have!

Cannabis has a remarkable safety record - it has never caused a single death by overdose, so it is safer than the Tylenol that we give to our children. Some cannabinoids, like CBD, can't get you high no matter how much you take, but are still quite effective medically. Perhaps it is time that someone considers doing a study of pediatric, non-psychoactive cannabinoid use to treat "failure to thrive" infants!

Storm Crow for Salem-News.com
Link to original article: here
 

VanVulpen

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Si ce mesaj transmite copiilor acest studiu? Propun sa le incadram pe tinerele mame la trafic de lapte de mare risc...
 

exploziv

pure dynamite
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ce este interesat, desi folosirea cannabisului pare sa dauneze utilizatorilor tineri, poate avea si efecte pozitive in anumite momente.

ca sa iti raspund, acest mesaj nu este scris pt. copii. :joint:

:wave:

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inca ceva interesant.. cum modul in care o companie alege sa isi protejeze patrimoniul genetic si pozitia pe piata poate dauna direct intregii omeniri..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...ins-blood-93-unborn-babies.html#ixzz1P97uCQw7
 
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exploziv

pure dynamite
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@mjgrow -
sunt.
nu-s chiar 400x, deoarece pun mugurele putin mai departe de obiectivul microscopului si cred ca oricum calculul este facut la print size. eu ma joc cu rezolutia putin. (cu softul original as fi putut calcula fix cat este, dar poti citi mai jos de ce nu mai am cum)

@sznake-
da! iarba e de vina!

@van-
microscop digital - din pacate cu driver de camera web, cam pierd din calitate, dar driverul original nu mi-l recunoaste nimeni.
indoor all the way.

thanks! :wave:
 

exploziv

pure dynamite
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am uitat sa precizez ca ultimul set de poze este facut cu materialul umed. poate o sa trag si cateva dupa uscare, pentru comparatie.

thanks for the visit, piramidon! :wave:
 
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MJgrow

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@explo... incearca sa vezi ce cod are senzorul de la microscop (CCD) sau procesorul.

Se poate sa gasesti driver doar pentru procesor si sa functioneze impecabil dispozitivul.

Eu asa am reusit cu o camera web mai veche care nu mergea pe vista.... merge si pe w7 acum cu driverul ala.

De obicei hardware e acelasi, doar firma difere(brand) si de multe ori te duce in eroare.

keep a try !
 

exploziv

pure dynamite
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cam asa functioneaza acum.. doar ca softul furnizat nu recunoaste device-ul decat cu driverul lor, care nu functioneaza pe nici un windows cunoscut (o varianta veche mergea pe xp, cea care au pus-o acum pe site-ul de suport nu mai e recunoscuta de nimeni)

eu sunt multumit ca de la 0.3 mp cat reuseam sa il fac sa mearga, am reusit sa il trick-uiesc sa mearga undeva pe la 1 mp. ce e trist e ca nativ, senzorul e de 2 mp si am pierdut functiile ce tin de soft. (masurare, scalare etc.)

sunt multumit ca merge pentru moment. daca vreau sa vad mai clar folosesc microscopul optic. urmatorul pas este sa iau o camera hd pe care sa o atasez la micoscopul optic. (poate de craciun :D) si atunci o sa avem si poze la calitate reala..

multumesc pentru incercarea de ajutor, totusi. :wave:
 
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