This Is How You Kill Powder Mildew Forever!!!!!

[takkada]

Let me add to that list, if you don't mind.

OxiDate (27$H2O2 + 2%PAA paracetic acid)--double peroxide, caustic when fresh (use PPG! including respirator, I'm not kidding about this), breaks down into H2O.

JMS Stylet oil--physical barrier and adjuvant, should be incorporated into ANY IPM strategy due to its effectiveness in treating a wide array of pathogens and pests.

Milk, 10% dilution--has been shown to be AS effective in controlling PM fungi fruiting bodies as chemical treatments in the field.

Finally, get the plant's Brix levels up.

None of these methods are eradication, but neither are any of them going to cause long term harm to the grower, final users, or, just as salient IMO, resistance in the PM fungi as Eagle 20 is KNOWN TO.

thank you , ill work on it and let everyone know how my babbys react , again thanks good shit , peace

 

[PuertoviejoKL]

Going to be treating some plants with the Eagle 20 and will post some results and or before and after shots.... so 1-2 ml per gallon is the proper ratio right?

 

[greenmatter]

2 ml worked for me

remember to clean the room too!

there are members here who have to fight the PM all the time because of their location. where you and i live, you can kill the stuff ONE TIME and be done with it. no more clones and no more visits to infected grow rooms will keep you from having to use this product again.

E 20 is a great product, but it is NOT neem oil ....... it's not something i would plan on using repeatedly.

 

[mendo420]

Eagle20 is POISON.

Did anyone read the Eagle20 Label?

Do you guys think its a safe product?

Do you think your pot is medical grade because it does not have mildew after spraying Eagle 20?

How about your pot now being toxic to ingest? Do you still think its medical grade?

Their are other products on the market that you can "cure your plants from powder mildew"

The problem is you have powdery mildew before you can see it on the plants.
The white hyphae you see are the fruit of the fungus. It's in the final stages.

A simple preventive maintenance program is what you need.
Don't react to the problem, never let it start.

1.Get a sulfur burner 15min every 3 days at night.
2. Mix some brix mix and spray weekly.
3.GreenCure Fungicide (its organic)
4. Sulfur spray

Eagle20 is POISON.

 

[Kcar]

Top 50 Crops and Sites for for Myclobutanil use in California in 2009

Crop or Site
(Commodity Code)
Gross
Pounds Application Rate
pounds per acre treated
Acres Planted
where all or part
has been sprayed
Acres Treated Application
Count
All Sites (00)
57,596 0.11 523,586 510,335 17,712
Table and Raisin Grapes (29141)
14,654 0.11 106,266 139,409 3,357
Wine Grapes (29143)
12,568 0.10 148,794 123,477 4,410
Tomatoes for Processing (29136)
8,299 0.10 78,968 86,751 1,162
Strawberries (1016)
4,884 0.10 45,314 47,212 1,704
Landscape (30)
2,356 0.10 275.0 17.4 691
Bell Peppers (11003)
1,849 0.11 23,046 17,321 722
Tomatoes (11005)
1,810 0.10 22,531 18,696 450
Cotton (29121)
1,530 0.13 148.0 112.0 6
Almonds (3001)
1,381 0.14 10,708 9,869 127
Cherries (5002)
1,078 0.13 7,410 8,139 354
Artichokes (13018)
964.4 0.10 18,734 9,639 472
Peaches (5004)
924.5 0.12 6,941 7,424 462
Apples (4001)
765.3 0.12 5,372 6,555 350
Cantaloupe (10002)
658.7 0.15 4,132 4,432 92
Nectarines (5003)
612.7 0.13 4,181 4,768 310
Melons (29122)
608.1 0.18 4,690 3,316 68
Watermelons (10008)
594.1 0.11 4,130 5,237 104
Outdoor Container Nursery (154)
301.2 0.12 7,924 2,484 708
Apricots (5001)
299.5 0.12 1,809 2,490 125
Outdoor Flower Nursery (152)
210.6 0.12 2,361 1,685 435
Plums (5005)
186.6 0.12 1,817 1,575 166
Greenhouse Flowers (151)
170.8 0.17 437.1 961.7 500
Pumpkins (10011)
140.2 0.12 2,040 1,161 57
Raspberries (1006)
128.4 0.06 2,094 2,111 194
Head Lettuce (13045)
102.0 0.11 1,480 907.1 31
Squash (10012)
87.0 0.11 1,648 828.1 54
Outdoor Propagation Nursery (156)
75.2 0.11 744.5 663.4 91
Cucumbers (10010)
69.3 0.10 2,656 678.3 70
Prunes (5006)
57.0 0.12 500.3 495.3 11
Leaf Lettuce (13031)
49.8 0.12 693.7 420.6 17
Ornamental Turf (33008)
42.5 0.16 481.0 246.0 10
Summer Squash (10013)
26.5 0.11 996.0 243.1 37
Greenhouse Plants (153)
26.4 0.10 634.0 198.1 229
Winter Squash (10014)
23.3 0.12 181.0 192.0 7
Pimentos (11004)
14.0 0.10 2,053 139.9 7
Blackberries (1002)
12.2 0.08 245.0 161.9 17
Chili Peppers (8050)
11.7 0.11 551.2 108.2 4
Onions (14011)
9.00 0.10 90.0 90.0 1
Vertebrate Pest Control (80)
3.20 0.10 15.3 32.0 4
Recreational Area (67002)
2.97 0.59 190.0 5.00 1
Greenhouse Propagation (155)
2.76 0.10 104.6 14.1 53
Eggplant (11001)
1.88 0.12 15.0 15.0 1
Unknown (-1)
1.67 0.56 135.0 3.00 1
Pasture (28035)
1.49 0.04 - 40.0 2
Commodity Research (99)
1.35 0.03 10.0 2.74 12
Right of Way (40)
0.69 0.10 2.00 1.50 5
Regulatory (100)
0.47 - - - 9
Mint (28012)
0.38 0.10 30.0 2.75 5
Structural Pest Control (10)
0.24 - - - 5

Regional Use for Myclobutanil on All Sites in 2009

Region
(County Code)
Gross
Pounds Application
Rate
pounds per acre treated
Acres Planted
where all or part
has been sprayed
Acres Treated Application
Count
California (00)
57,596 0.11 523,586 510,335 17,712
Fresno (10)
11,310 0.10 97,968 108,963 2,438
Kern (15)
6,004 0.11 42,953 54,183 955
Monterey (27)
4,644 0.10 107,642 45,808 1,674
San Joaquin (39)
4,068 0.11 37,534 38,564 1,017
Tulare (54)
3,734 0.11 27,171 35,126 957
Madera (20)
2,767 0.10 25,069 27,605 506
Kings (16)
2,594 0.10 9,742 10,599 229
Sonoma (49)
2,211 0.11 20,464 20,790 1,043
Contra Costa (07)
2,203 0.11 2,679 3,136 221
Stanislaus (50)
1,838 0.11 14,449 16,933 609
Santa Barbara (42)
1,822 0.11 12,930 16,810 1,128
Ventura (56)
1,397 0.10 17,780 13,959 746
Merced (24)
1,342 0.10 12,881 13,776 283
Riverside (33)
1,259 0.10 10,037 12,996 367
Napa (28)
1,174 0.10 11,728 11,684 958
Yolo (57)
1,130 0.10 10,594 11,224 199
Imperial (13)
1,033 0.19 5,583 5,515 137
San Luis Obispo (40)
1,019 0.09 8,911 11,177 600
Santa Cruz (44)
872.7 0.11 4,745 8,087 470
Sacramento (34)
734.0 0.10 8,198 6,840 207
San Benito (35)
733.2 0.11 6,043 6,513 284
Mendocino (23)
701.8 0.13 4,161 5,263 217
San Diego (37)
509.7 0.13 3,714 3,695 618
Santa Clara (43)
436.8 0.10 2,840 4,006 360
Solano (48)
434.0 0.10 4,023 4,163 191
Lake (17)
319.4 0.10 2,387 3,237 64
Orange (30)
266.4 0.13 2,854 1,747 257
Los Angeles (19)
266.3 0.09 1,232 1,824 230
El Dorado (09)
151.7 0.09 1,290 1,489 243
Amador (03)
122.8 0.10 1,221 1,169 69
Sutter (51)
102.6 0.11 1,061 928.1 16
Siskiyou (47)
63.3 0.10 634.0 633.5 20
Colusa (06)
60.5 0.10 1,660 619.0 16
Placer (31)
54.1 0.09 151.4 69.6 51
Glenn (11)
41.0 0.16 257.8 254.8 10
Butte (04)
30.6 0.17 497.0 122.0 27
San Bernardino (36)
22.9 0.11 159.8 208.5 62
Shasta (45)
21.9 0.07 179.2 289.7 36
San Mateo (41)
20.5 0.11 170.0 108.3 82
Alameda (01)
18.1 0.42 0.15 0.12 42
Marin (21)
15.9 - - - 16
Calaveras (05)
14.0 0.13 11.0 17.0 13
Humboldt (12)
10.6 0.08 420.0 126.0 20
Yuba (58)
6.80 0.05 1.00 2.00 5
Nevada (29)
6.61 - - - 3
Lassen (18)
3.10 0.08 51.0 38.8 2
Tuolumne (55)
2.81 0.10 30.0 28.0 2
San Francisco (38)
2.38 - - - 4
Tehama (52)
0.51 0.12 5.25 4.25 3


If it was really POISON, we'd all be dead by now.

 

[PuertoviejoKL]

Eagle20 is POISON.

Tell all of my seedling plants that Eagle is poisonous because they won't care. I'm treating 4 plants with Eagle and it's about safety and peace of mind. I've done the green cure and a couple others and on 4 of the plants it returned....
I know longer want to monkey around.... one and done. I don't want my seedling stock to get infected.

My house needs to be cleaned out before I bring them back into my house. Right now I'm waiting for a warm day to spray outdoors because cleaning the rooms with a bleach spray and scrubbing everything else. I want my house to return to normal. What else can I do to clean up the place Green Matter?

 

[takkada]

homemade remidy

homemade remidy

has anyone tried this , 8 chamile tea bags bioled in 1 gallon water, 4 tbsp baking soda, 2 tbsp murphy oil soap, mix well apply with sprayer untill run off , good luck, peace all .

 

[takkada]

has anyone tried this , 8 chamile tea bags bioled in 1 gallon water, 4 tbsp baking soda, 2 tbsp murphy oil soap, mix well apply with sprayer untill run off , good luck, peace all .

you can add 1/2 cup molasses to the mix and bring up brix levels.

 

[krunchbubble]

has anyone tried this , 8 chamile tea bags bioled in 1 gallon water, 4 tbsp baking soda, 2 tbsp murphy oil soap, mix well apply with sprayer untill run off , good luck, peace all .

you can add 1/2 cup molasses to the mix and bring up brix levels.

didn't i ask politely you to keep your bullshit out of this thread?

 

[greenmatter]

Tell all of my seedling plants that Eagle is poisonous because they won't care. I'm treating 4 plants with Eagle and it's about safety and peace of mind. I've done the green cure and a couple others and on 4 of the plants it returned....
I know longer want to monkey around.... one and done. I don't want my seedling stock to get infected.

My house needs to be cleaned out before I bring them back into my house. Right now I'm waiting for a warm day to spray outdoors because cleaning the rooms with a bleach spray and scrubbing everything else. I want my house to return to normal. What else can I do to clean up the place Green Matter?

i bleached the hell out of my rooms and wiped down everything that i thought i had or would touch when i was gardening again. the big room where all the "stuff" i have is stored got Lysol bombed 4-5 times, but i did not do anything to the rest of the house.

i got the that shit in spring and late summer, when i was not heating the house with the grow room (thank the stoner gods)...... so the only way for it to spread was on me. once i found out i had it i made sure that didn't happen.

if you are really worried about spores being everywhere you could use a potassium bicarbonate or H202 spray instead of bleach around the house. it will kill the spores and it will be easier on your stuff than bleach. go with the bleach in your grow space ....... and if you think one time is enough do it at least twice

one time and done man! overkill is a good thing

 

[PuertoviejoKL]

Got H202 and Bleach both... tomorrow will be a productive day... thank you

 

[greenmatter]

^^^^ hey P. ...... smoked one and thought about it. grapeman says plain water kills spores, and all potassium bicarbonate does is raise the Ph of the water. baking soda and water would work too. easy to get

 

[ShortStackz]

Just to update. The Spectracide Immunox works, cheaper & easier to get than eagle stuff. Almost at harvest & no PM to be found.

 

[moodster]

eagle works one time application i had tried everything as long as you dont snort eagle 20 i think we all be fine

 

[kmk420kali]

I am dealing with a 6000 sq ft Green House...and we have been battling PM for years-- Used Eagle 20, (in Veg) and have had minor...need I stress the word "Minor" issues since!!
"The spit of a virgin in October", may work for some of you...but damn man, this stuff knocks it back, and is in no way a danger to our harvest-- Bite Me--

 

[EclipseFour20]

Eagle20 is POISON.

Did anyone read the Eagle20 Label?

Do you guys think its a safe product?
...
Eagle20 is POISON.

Did YOU read the label?

Please provide your source to support your OPINION (not fact) that Eagle is POSION. Here is the information I posted in a different thread that debunked this earlier. Eagle (and aspirin) are Prop 65 chemicals--like most of the cleaners stored under your kitchen sink--and are NOT POISON!

Damn, I hate misinformation--AKA stoner logic! Eagle is classified as a "reproductive toxicant"--not "poison". Smear it on your chest and if you are a male, you might become sterile--AND if you are a female...nothing, no toxic effect with the reproductive system.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=5009177#post5009177

.....Now, why the skull and crossbones and PAN Bad Actor deal? You will not believe the answer.

First, what are PAN Bad Actors? "PAN Bad Actors are chemicals that are one or more of the following: highly acutely toxic, cholinesterase inhibitor, known/probable carcinogen, known groundwater pollutant or known reproductive or developmental toxicant."

So why is Myclobutanil a "Bad Actor"...any guesses? It is not what you think. The answers are in the section just past the skull and crossbones--seems that no one took the time to read it, so allow me to post it.

WHO rates Myclobutanil as "III slightly hazardous" and EPA has "no census value"...so IT IS NOT HIGHLY ACUTELY TOXIC (nope, not the first one).

Is it not a cholinesterase inhibitor....(ok, 2 down a few more to go)

As for Myclobutanil being a carcinogen, US EPA classifies it as a "Category E Unlikely" (Category E: Probably not carcinogenic, with no evidence of carcinogenicity in at least two adequate animal tests in different species in adequate epidemiologic and animal studies. (3 down...)

Groundwater rating...insufficient data, hmmm is this the qualifier for being a Pan Bad Actor?....nah, 4 down and no dingers yet.

It seems that like almost all chemicals (we have all seen those California Prop 65 signs/warnings about reproductive or developmental toxicants....well, guess what--that is the sole reason Myclobutanil it is a PAN Bad Actor.
​

Got it...all the hysteria cuz, it is a Prop 65 chemical. Too funny...most everything under my kitchen sink came with a Prop 65 warning, in fact--the Riedel Crystal wine glasses I got for Christmas came with the Prop 65 warning...lead glass is used to make crystal. Don't gas stations have Prop 65 warning signs posted too?

For a complete list of Prop 65 chems....http://www.oehha.ca.gov/prop65/prop65_list/files/P65single021712.pdf....which includes a dangerous pill called "aspirin"....lol.

So lets see....1 ml per gallon, foliar spray on leaves, 5 day foliar half life, 90% gone in 21 days...1 gallon will service how many plants in veg?...hmmm, what was the question again? Is Eagle safe? Where is the proof that it is not?....waiting....

It effect males reproductive systems only--"Male reproductive toxicity -- Myclobutanil: Exposure to Myclobutanil, a recognized reproductive toxicant, can negatively affect the male reproductive system. Myclobutanil is used mainly as a fungicide. The severity and nature of the adverse effect is variable and can be influenced by factors such as level of exposure and individual sensitivity to the chemical. Effects on the male reproductive system can include such things as altered sexual behavior, altered fertility and problems with sperm shape or count."

http://www.rightdiagnosis.com/m/male_reproductive_toxicity_myclobutanil/intro.htm

I am a guy...and not worried.

 

[mendo420]

HOW BOUT YOU?
Did any of you read the label???

Yes I read the Label.

No matter how you want to sugar coat it its poison "toxicant".

You dumb asses think its safe.

Here's your FACTS
Page 18
Do not use treated plant material for food or feed

How much clear could that be?

Page 2
Hazards to humans and domestic animals info.
Did you read that?
Still think its safe?

What about the restricted entry interval?
Still think its safe?

Use it on maple trees the directions say "treated trees may not be used for syrup"

Use it on sunflower the directions say "seeds from treated plants may not be used for feed."

EclipseFour20 your a real piece of work
"Eagle is classified as a "reproductive toxicant"--not "poison""
What does the word toxicant mean?
Go back to school.

And you want to smoke it?
AKA stoner logic

You are all providing misinformation suggesting this is a safe product.

Its not a safe product for human consumption
Read the directions.

 

[Shcrews]

i love smoking eagle 20

 

[vapedg13]

HOW BOUT YOU?
Did any of you read the label???

Yes I read the Label.

No matter how you want to sugar coat it its poison "toxicant".

You dumb asses think its safe.

Here's your FACTS
Page 18
Do not use treated plant material for food or feed

How much clear could that be?

Page 2
Hazards to humans and domestic animals info.
Did you read that?
Still think its safe?

What about the restricted entry interval?
Still think its safe?

Use it on maple trees the directions say "treated trees may not be used for syrup"

Use it on sunflower the directions say "seeds from treated plants may not be used for feed."

EclipseFour20 your a real piece of work
"Eagle is classified as a "reproductive toxicant"--not "poison""
What does the word toxicant mean?
Go back to school.

And you want to smoke it?
AKA stoner logic

You are all providing misinformation suggesting this is a safe product.

Its not a safe product for human consumption
Read the directions.

If used in vegetive growth or right before flower.... it will be out of the plant by the time you harvest ... 2-3 months later

Eagle20 has a 21-30 day respray interval.... so that tells you its out of the plant and needs to be re-applied if the plant is exposed to the spore on a regular basis (outdoor crops)

 

[EclipseFour20]

Before calling others dumb ass...what label are you reading? This one is revised 9/21/11--what date is yours?
http://www.cdms.net/LDat/ld6DG000.pdf

Aren't apples, grapes, stone fruits, cherries and such food? See the application rates start on page 8 for these foods....