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This changes Everything
- Thread starter LyryC
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you really didn't think the farmer in the dell was feeding you didja?
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chazz michaels
Doesn't really change anything..........
I've never seen the chicken collector before though??
I've never seen the chicken collector before though??
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Conformist
You gotta be pretty fucked in the head to own or work at a slaughterhouse.
The best part is, we aren't even carnivore, we're herbivore.
Intestinal tract length. Carnivorous animals have intestinal tracts that are 3-6x their body length, while herbivores have intestinal tracts 10-12x their body length. Human beings have the same intestinal tract ratio as herbivores.
Stomach acidity. Carnivores’ stomachs are 20x more acidic than the stomachs of herbivores. Human stomach acidity matches that of herbivores.
Saliva. The saliva of carnivores is acidic. The saliva of herbivores is alkaline, which helps pre-digest plant foods. Human saliva is alkaline.
Shape of intestines. Carnivore bowels are smooth, shaped like a pipe, so meat passes through quickly — they don’t have bumps or pockets. Herbivore bowels are bumpy and pouch-like with lots of pockets, like a windy mountain road, so plant foods pass through slowly for optimal nutrient absorption. Human bowels have the same characteristics as those of herbivores.
Fiber. Carnivores don’t require fiber to help move food through their short and smooth digestive tracts. Herbivores require dietary fiber to move food through their long and bumpy digestive tracts, to prevent the bowels from becoming clogged with rotting food. Humans have the same requirement as herbivores.
Cholesterol. Cholesterol is not a problem for a carnivore’s digestive system. A carnivore such as a cat can handle a high-cholesterol diet without negative health consequences. A human cannot. Humans have zero dietary need for cholesterol because our bodies manufacture all we need. Cholesterol is only found in animal foods, never in plant foods. A plant-based diet is by definition cholesterol-free.
Claws and teeth. Carnivores have claws, sharp front teeth capable of subduing prey, and no flat molars for chewing. Herbivores have no claws or sharp front teeth capable of subduing prey, but they have flat molars for chewing. Humans have the same characteristics as herbivores.
The best part is, we aren't even carnivore, we're herbivore.
Intestinal tract length. Carnivorous animals have intestinal tracts that are 3-6x their body length, while herbivores have intestinal tracts 10-12x their body length. Human beings have the same intestinal tract ratio as herbivores.
Stomach acidity. Carnivores’ stomachs are 20x more acidic than the stomachs of herbivores. Human stomach acidity matches that of herbivores.
Saliva. The saliva of carnivores is acidic. The saliva of herbivores is alkaline, which helps pre-digest plant foods. Human saliva is alkaline.
Shape of intestines. Carnivore bowels are smooth, shaped like a pipe, so meat passes through quickly — they don’t have bumps or pockets. Herbivore bowels are bumpy and pouch-like with lots of pockets, like a windy mountain road, so plant foods pass through slowly for optimal nutrient absorption. Human bowels have the same characteristics as those of herbivores.
Fiber. Carnivores don’t require fiber to help move food through their short and smooth digestive tracts. Herbivores require dietary fiber to move food through their long and bumpy digestive tracts, to prevent the bowels from becoming clogged with rotting food. Humans have the same requirement as herbivores.
Cholesterol. Cholesterol is not a problem for a carnivore’s digestive system. A carnivore such as a cat can handle a high-cholesterol diet without negative health consequences. A human cannot. Humans have zero dietary need for cholesterol because our bodies manufacture all we need. Cholesterol is only found in animal foods, never in plant foods. A plant-based diet is by definition cholesterol-free.
Claws and teeth. Carnivores have claws, sharp front teeth capable of subduing prey, and no flat molars for chewing. Herbivores have no claws or sharp front teeth capable of subduing prey, but they have flat molars for chewing. Humans have the same characteristics as herbivores.
Humans are omnivores, thats obvious.
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Sorry, just couldn't look
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chazz michaels
For someone who was so knowledgeable about Herbivores and Carnivores, I found it strange that they (Conformist) didn't know we are, like Green Lung said, Omnivores?
Weird?
Weird?
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Conformist
Why does it matter if we are scientifically omnivores or herbivores?
What really matters is that in 2011, we do not need to eat meat, dairy or eggs to survive nor in fact thrive.
We can subsist by strictly eating plants (and avoiding using individuals for clothing, entertainment and laboratory testing).
Since this is the case, we can make an ethical argument against both eating and using nonhuman animals.
If we do not need to breed, confine, torture and ultimately murder nonhuman animals for survival, then we are making a selfish choice, a speciesist choice to exploit others for our gain and enjoyment.
What really matters is that in 2011, we do not need to eat meat, dairy or eggs to survive nor in fact thrive.
We can subsist by strictly eating plants (and avoiding using individuals for clothing, entertainment and laboratory testing).
Since this is the case, we can make an ethical argument against both eating and using nonhuman animals.
If we do not need to breed, confine, torture and ultimately murder nonhuman animals for survival, then we are making a selfish choice, a speciesist choice to exploit others for our gain and enjoyment.
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Conformist
2013* not 2011.
I can't edit my posts yet.
I can't edit my posts yet.
Don't need to be. That's obvious.
For the win. Agree.
I used to live near a slaughterhouse. didn't bother me and I got free guts and stuff for hunting, fishing ect.
Walt Jabsco
Member
where can I buy one of those chicken sweeping machines?
I'd like to have a bigger one for humans and take it for a spin in the city.
A people Zamboni.
Clean up the place.
A people Zamboni.
Clean up the place.
I for one am sick to death of the hyperbole thrown around by veggies/vegans. Murder, torture etc. "A steak just doesn't taste the same unless the cow was water-boarded and had voltage applied to its genitals"... See how ridiculous the torture thing is.
Is there cruelty in the meat trade? Are there bad abbotoirs/abbotoir workers? Yes without a doubt! Is it inherently cruel to raise and kill animals for food? Fuck no!
It is a consumers responsibility to know where their food comes from.
How about we discuss all the bugs, rodents and ground nesting birds that get chewed up by combine harvesters collecting your grains(I eat grains too so I am complicit), better stop eating any cereal crops, they may be contaminated with dead rat. How about the fish/blood and bone meal used by organic farmers, byproducts of the meat trade. Veggies/vegans never like to think about this.
Most of the veggies/vegans I have ever known, wound up needing to take nutritional suppliments, either for a while or forever, so when you look into how minerals are mined for these pills, the enviromental argument falls on its arse.
I used to be vegetarian.
I also dislike the distinct authoritarian bent being veggie seems to instil in some(not all) people. What do I mean? Well, I have never known a meat eater who would mandate meat eating(I have known people who thought it was funny to feed a veggie meat secretly--that sucks) but I have known dozens of veggies and vegans who would impose their diet on all of us, if it was within their power to do so. Fuck them, with an oozing Syphilitic Horse cock.
Another thing I dislike, is the claim that everyone who eats meat is simply callous, puts their pleasure over ethics, or is too stupid to understand the arguments. It never occurs to these folks that people seeing the same information, can come to different conclusions. Of course, the ones who do understand this point, still see me as a callous, inhuman monster where I just see them as someone who has a different view and lifestyle to go with it. This smug sanctimony turns a lot of people off from even listening to the arguments.
To borrow and alter a line from Bill Hicks,
I might give up eating meat tomorrow, if I didn't think I would turn into one of you people.
You would be far more successful in your aims of reducing cruelty, if you simply worked on getting people to eat less, better quality, higher welfare standard meat.
Don't even get me started on the people who impose these dietary decisions on their dogs and cats.
Aaaaaand finally, a joke to finish off.
Q) How do you know if some is a Vegan?
A) Don't worry, they'll tell you.
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Agreed. I don't want to stop eating meat! I just want people to raise their own animals and not rely on these disturbing practices that unfortunately if you think about it some body else has to bear with.
I think all humans are good innately, I feel bad and sorry for the people who are tied up into these industries and jobs because like others, like me, we are dependent on this fucking system working against us.
I was a vegan once
I think all humans are good innately, I feel bad and sorry for the people who are tied up into these industries and jobs because like others, like me, we are dependent on this fucking system working against us.
I was a vegan once
