CanadaDank
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AJ Sour is the best Sour D cut. It’s the same cut as ECSD but without the genetic drift. I got a lock on it and should have her soon.
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There is only one true ECSD.
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Beuhologue
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Hi!
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Beuhologue
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ECSD
ECSD
Hi everybody!
new pics
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ECSD
Hi everybody!
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Nice sheep mate
GainGreene
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Good thing that sheep hasn't eaten your plant looks like he is considering it. Looking good
really first pic it looks like the sheep is considering to make evolution step 
DaveBowman
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Congrats! She’s pretty.
This is just not true at all.
The AJ and the ECSD are two different sour phenos.
You'll figure it out like a lot of us have after running the AJ. It's sour yea, but it sure as fuck not the ECSD.
CanadaDank
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lol yeah I’m not sure why I thought that but I’ve come to realize you are certainly correct that they are two different cuts. There are similarities but that’s as far as it goes.
BerryManilow
Well-known member
Posted this in another thread but it's valuable info.
Genetics testing proves that the Albany/AJ /96 cuts are related to each other, but they aren't even related to the Sour/ Chemdog family.
ECSD is Sour Diesel. Wing Wang is closely related so most likely a sister pheno.
Genetics testing proves that the Albany/AJ /96 cuts are related to each other, but they aren't even related to the Sour/ Chemdog family.
ECSD is Sour Diesel. Wing Wang is closely related so most likely a sister pheno.
Those results are interesting to say the least idk what to believe it’s saying that the Aj and 96 is more related to strains like cookie I have a theory why but I need more info
Anyway after looking at those results what really stood out is sour D is closely related to Chem D I kno it’s chem family but it’s really closer to the chem D
Every strain after pure sour is chem D even if it’s just a f1 or a backcross chem 4 and chem 91 are not even as close as a half breed chem D crosses u could think the 91 and 4 would be right after pure Ecsd but it’s the chem D and crosses then the 4 and then the 91
Unless I’m reading it wrong
Anyway after looking at those results what really stood out is sour D is closely related to Chem D I kno it’s chem family but it’s really closer to the chem D
Every strain after pure sour is chem D even if it’s just a f1 or a backcross chem 4 and chem 91 are not even as close as a half breed chem D crosses u could think the 91 and 4 would be right after pure Ecsd but it’s the chem D and crosses then the 4 and then the 91
Unless I’m reading it wrong
What's boggling my mind is whether those are even authentic chem cuts being compared against bc the Slater Center sent in two cuts of chem 91 three years apart.
Yea it’s not making any kinda sense
They should have both cuts he sent in to compared to themselves atleast idk why u would need to send the same cut again
this all could make sense already:
1. There are those pesky rumors that chemdog never truly passed his beloved 91 to Weasel in Staten Island, instead, he may have given out something else. Same claims state chem d is chem 91 x super skunk
2. the relationship between chem 91 and sour is more distant than we think. Chem 91 x Northern lights plus a selfing or filial cross plus other items like Dnl or RFK or purple kush or super skunk being run at the house upstate might make them quite distant given the testing.
3. Chimerical plants, viruses, and clonally propagated somatic mutations could be confounding the results.
4. There are other cuts rarely discussed like the blockwork sour, diesel 2, headband, original diesel, skunk 6, mass super skunk, other bag seeds, and intentional sour crosses that have the wrong names on them.
I Agree with the sentiment that it was never chem 91 and it was Chem D if we believe the charts
The theory i had before from looking at this is that the OG kush and Chemdawg are related for example the 96 diesel most moderately related is this strain
RKM-2018-034 (RSP11126) - which is from R-kiem seeds
The closet relation to this plant is SFV and SFV hybrids .. the first being Sfv x tk
If these plants weren’t family it would drop them down the list and being that RKM-2018 is so closely related to them and the 96 I have to assume it’s some og/chem cross making 96 diesel moderately related (closet) relation tho
I’m assuming the chemdawgs bagseeds are more pure in a sense than the kush something was added at one point then bagseeds were grown for years and other things added moving the relation away but crossing them back together brings back up the pure percentage from the chart point of view
Lastly it could be some medical plant issues or just a whole bunch of mislabeling just one bad label could have set off a terrible chain of naming events
