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+ 6 oh, ooops.
absolutely loved it. As said many times by other growers in this thread, I could have used bigger pots to support these big ass trees....but I think theres still more to get outta these 3.4 gals. I also could have done better if I had the blumats dialed in a bit earlier. By mid flower, these girls were suckin up a good amount of water a day.
I also did some feedings with a hand wand mid way thru flower, which I'll probably start earlier in flower this time.
Oh yes. Big difference in buds from a 6oo vs a 4oo. Super dense. And there is so much light in there now, there is alot less larf. The 6's penetrate much deeper, so the whole canopy is straight bud. Damn near no larf.
Now that the winter is here, its gonna be easy to cool the 6oo's.
Very happy
... and medicated. I don't really grow for the yield per se, but I do try to find the most effective way to grow, and to maximize my setup's potential.
Big difference in buds from a 6oo vs a 4oo. Super dense. And there is so much light in there now, there is alot less larf. The 6's penetrate much deeper, so the whole canopy is straight bud. Damn near no larf.
Now that the winter is here, its gonna be easy to cool the 6oo's.
Dammit. You're making me want to spend money on two new 600s instead of the two 400s I already have.
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Thank you JW.
Its crazy to hear that from you. You're one of the 1st names I got to know when I first came to IC.... lurkin around in Rez's forum tryna score some diesel, lol. You, Zoo and Baker... That shit seems like 10 yrs ago.Thanks bro
I gotta get pics of this next round up. Lookin good already. The back light being surrounded by the SFV Sour's has a real nice uniform look to it.
Dammit. You're making me want to spend money on two new 600s instead of the two 400s I already have.
2 words...... DO IT!
Marlo - Your post was one of the ones that brought me to IC from the other forums. Looks amazing, I can't wait to try it.
I've been working with liquid organics and its not as clean as I'd like it - was hoping to switch to making my own compost (or buying NS) this summer.
I was curious with the water only thing. How do you fix it so the plants get their need met through both veg and flower? Or is that the magic of NSPB?
I look forward to watching you build your next wall
I've been working with liquid organics and its not as clean as I'd like it - was hoping to switch to making my own compost (or buying NS) this summer.
I was curious with the water only thing. How do you fix it so the plants get their need met through both veg and flower? Or is that the magic of NSPB?
I look forward to watching you build your next wall
M
mugenbao
Part of the secret to the magic of NSPB, as I understand it, can be boiled down to the large amount of research and experimentation that was done to find a suitable mix of amendments that provide sufficient nutrition for both stages by careful selection of ingredients with overlapping and staggered windows of availability.
By that I mean that some of the ingredients appear to be available immediately and perhaps for a shorter period of time, while others appear to become progressively more available over time, and there's a bit of overlap in those windows as well. Paying careful attention to the rates of availability over time for each ingredient is one key point.
There are a few very enlightening posts by NSPB here on the forums that describe this, probably much better than I can. Definitely recommended reading
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Soon...not available currently. Sorry.
dank.Frank
Soon...not available currently. Sorry.
dank.Frank
Marlo - Your post was one of the ones that brought me to IC from the other forums. Looks amazing, I can't wait to try it.
I've been working with liquid organics and its not as clean as I'd like it - was hoping to switch to making my own compost (or buying NS) this summer.
I was curious with the water only thing. How do you fix it so the plants get their need met through both veg and flower? Or is that the magic of NSPB?
I look forward to watching you build your next wall
Its a pleasure to have your first post in my thread. Welcome to IC.
The NSPB works great as a water only mix, for normal size plants, lol. My plants are way too big to be in these pots, and survive as a water only mix, so I supplement with liquid organics.
The next wall looks very nice. Full all the way around. The 3 SFV Sours are really looking good surrounding the back light. I think thats gonna be her permanent spot. I'm a big fan of her sour goodness. I gave the SD IBL another go, in front of the door. She's doing very well there. I don't think she's wall material.
The Bluetooths are some leafy bitches. They have the biggest fans in the room. Big fat stems too. They were both very fast veg'ers, but they are pretty moderate on the stretch (thankfully). I'm excited to see what these girls will put out. Hopefully something "blue"
Pics...soon.
Anytime with an organic water only mix, you will eventually run out of food if the plants are too large for the given root space. I can successfully achieve 10wk plants without any supplementation in a 1g container. The general rule of thumb for proper roots space on any given organic medium is 1 gal of medium for each foot of height. Well, that as a thumb print is fine, but I'd suggest to insure a true water only experience to use 1.5 gal of medium per foot of growth. Phillthy successfully harvest plants in the 3-5 ft range and uses 3 gal bags without any complications....however, I have seen plants vegged too large and fully deplete their food sources in 5 gal buckets within the 4th week of flower. It really comes down to knowing a bit about the plants you are running an how you expect them to feed. On the other side of the spectrum, are plants that are extremely efficient with their feeding habits, never deplete their 1 gal containers of nutrients and still produce 44 grams per plant on average. You certainly don't want to INCREASE the content of the overall fertilizer at this point as some plants AREN'T using it all. (Marol's garden of Chem/Diesel/OG genetics are some of the most finicky and quirky plants to grow and feed.) In the just add water organic world, this then begs not more food or a stronger mix to be made, but rather a larger container and more roots space be provided. This will provide the additional nutrients needed as the roots spread out.
I know that Marlo fully understands this concept and is doing his thing the way it works for him. And in my opinion, that is the beauty of the NSPB: FLF. He hasn't changed his base medium (too much) and is still able to successfully incorporate other feeding programs as he desires....or if he wanted, he could maintain water only by increase to 7-10g containers for those trees he's growing! This flexibility of use was one of the main goals to achieve with the mix and was also one of the hardest. The point is NOT to tell someone to only grow this one particular way and take over the market...the objective is to give all growers a tool that allows them, if they desire, to pursue a fully organic garden in the easiest of ways possible, just adding water, without depriving the gardener of the "advanced" results that are perceived in other feeding programs. At the same time, allow the gardener a bit of room to play and experiment if they still desire to do such, which MOST will.
Anyway...looking forward to seeing round 2! Keep up the awesome work! And the leafiness in those BlueTooth's is from his Swt#4 male...I think I complained to him about that in some of the KKSC x Swt#4 as well...hehehe!!! We are such snobs...lol!
dank.Frank
I know that Marlo fully understands this concept and is doing his thing the way it works for him. And in my opinion, that is the beauty of the NSPB: FLF. He hasn't changed his base medium (too much) and is still able to successfully incorporate other feeding programs as he desires....or if he wanted, he could maintain water only by increase to 7-10g containers for those trees he's growing!
This flexibility of use was one of the main goals to achieve with the mix and was also one of the hardest. The point is NOT to tell someone to only grow this one particular way and take over the market...the objective is to give all growers a tool that allows them, if they desire, to pursue a fully organic garden in the easiest of ways possible, just adding water, without depriving the gardener of the "advanced" results that are perceived in other feeding programs. At the same time, allow the gardener a bit of room to play and experiment if they still desire to do such, which MOST will.Anyway...looking forward to seeing round 2! Keep up the awesome work! And the leafiness in those BlueTooth's is from his Swt#4 male...I think I complained to him about that in some of the KKSC x Swt#4 as well...hehehe!!!
We are such snobs...lol!dank.Frank
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overveg much? Lol.... Looking good.
The fisheye really shows the layout top to bottom well...although it is a bit funny on preceptions. The garden looks amazing! Going to be a bumper harvest with the new setup in place and no hiccups (knock on wood) along the way.
dank.Frank
dank.Frank
Smokindogcujo
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Your space really puts out with your methods. I never thought of using pre-mixed soil with my airpots, but you've definitely shown it works. Think I might give it a whirl!
Great grow!
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SDC
Great grow!
Grow Safe
SDC
How do you access all of those? Go-go-gadget arms?
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hell yeah ahahah we're running the same thing but im basically treating them like grape vines ,,,,
bet you gotta craw in there once its time for some trimming
keep up the great work brotha, not sure how i miss it but im here now
cheers,
red.
