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hey buddy, keep ur head up. if we didnt have problems and things took care of themselfs, we wouldnt ever progress. you'll make it happen, i have faith. i had the same issue when i first started running the ecsd. my roomate who doesnt smoke could smell it when he got out of his vehicle! i was freaked. i also went with a bigger scubber and since i redid the room with the negative pressure, no smells and temps were controlled better (i did upgrade my fan to an 8'' with a speed controler from a 6'' vortec also). lol, just writing this has me reminicing of the fear i had for the few days i had the stank! not good for the heart! i had every imaginable smell control going and the deez still came through! how does mr dhf put it "baby shit, handle it"! lol! couldnt resist bro.
peace
headie
peace
headie
An increase in available O2 is also going to accelerate feeding. Your beneficials respire O2, so using the air-pot, you're gonna have healthier bacteria, which in turn are going to eat more, and make food for the plants...
So yeah, I think you're on to something, w/o touching on the extra O2 needed by the plant to process the extra nutes...The larger pot = more available nutes running an organic mix. Problem solved w/o having to add ferts toward the end.
Marlo....
On your ventillation issue.
If you don't wanna get into the actual room and tear stuff down to get the bigger filter mounted properly....
Would it be possible to put your old filter back in the room and then put the big new filter right outside of the room on it's own fan? That way it'd be filtering anything that managed to make it out of the grow?
Just trying to keep you from having to sacrifice any ladies. Maybe it'll spark an idea that works for you.
On your ventillation issue.
If you don't wanna get into the actual room and tear stuff down to get the bigger filter mounted properly....
Would it be possible to put your old filter back in the room and then put the big new filter right outside of the room on it's own fan? That way it'd be filtering anything that managed to make it out of the grow?
Just trying to keep you from having to sacrifice any ladies. Maybe it'll spark an idea that works for you.
I was gonna say what Anti said... stick the new filter outside the room on the exhaust line until you can re-do the room itself. It's not ideal but it could work in a pinch. Do you have a speed controller? It might help to slow the fan down if you decide to push through the filter.
You're right headie. I just have to get in there and do it. That's the only way I'll be able to sleep at night. These girls have another 30 days to go...and they're only going to stink more as the days pass.
On the bright side, it'll give me a chance to trim some of the unwanted fan leaves and undergrowth. I just hope these girls don't go thru too much stress getting moved. I'm gonna have to be gentle
Time to make some space and figure out how the hell I'm gonna do thisThe air vents into the attic. There's no way this filter is gonna fit in there. It barely fits thru the growroom door!
I'd hate to try and do a quick fix and be left with the same problem in a day or 2. I'm already immune to the smell, so I won't know if its making a difference.
Hopefully, if i fix it right, I'll only have to fix it once
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terpene dreams
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Hope you'll figure out your odor issues, good luck.
Stinkfest?
Best. Problem. Evar.
Don't feel bad about snippage for the sake of airflow Marlo. I'm on the same trip this time 'round, but for a non-stinkola reason.
Best. Problem. Evar.
Don't feel bad about snippage for the sake of airflow Marlo. I'm on the same trip this time 'round, but for a non-stinkola reason.
Choc
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Sup Mo... 
Sorry you are having Dramas dude... why not leave the current setup as it is and just hang the carbon in the room with another fan attached circulating the smelly air that is in the room... what size is your outlet? if you need the extra extraction for the extra heat from the 6huners you can get quite small high output fans and use the old fan on the new Carbon recirculating in the room for the smell drop...
Sorry you are having Dramas dude... why not leave the current setup as it is and just hang the carbon in the room with another fan attached circulating the smelly air that is in the room... what size is your outlet? if you need the extra extraction for the extra heat from the 6huners you can get quite small high output fans and use the old fan on the new Carbon recirculating in the room for the smell drop...
Choc
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just had a look threw some old pics of the room and it looks like you might be limited on space i allways thought this room was a lot taller than what it no appears to be...
what about what anti said having the carbon outside the room except in stead of it just sitting outside cleaning the air in that room why not duct a hole out the room, say in the door or at the top at the front "hard for me as i cant see you room" and run the carbon in reverse blowing through it... its not as efficient as sucking but it dies work...
ideally i would leave the original extraction setup with a new carbon filter the same size in place of the old one then another outlet that goes to a box that houses the carbon filter sealed inside with a fan sucking threw it... does that make sense... i certainly would not be losing any growing space thats for sure...
what about what anti said having the carbon outside the room except in stead of it just sitting outside cleaning the air in that room why not duct a hole out the room, say in the door or at the top at the front "hard for me as i cant see you room" and run the carbon in reverse blowing through it... its not as efficient as sucking but it dies work...
ideally i would leave the original extraction setup with a new carbon filter the same size in place of the old one then another outlet that goes to a box that houses the carbon filter sealed inside with a fan sucking threw it... does that make sense... i certainly would not be losing any growing space thats for sure...
Thanks for all the suggestions guys, but there was only one way to fix this. Worrying about stressing a plant, or fussing over some hard work doesn't compare to the importance of having zero smell issues. It's way too important imo to leave it to chance or trying any temporary fixes. The fact that someone smelled it, is bad enough imo.
I'm still not exactly sure how, but this big ass odor reducing 80 lb reversible scrubber is hung, installed and scrubbing the air in my growroom. I removed the 3 plants on the right side of the roomnoway and placed them in another room. I hung a flouro over them, and gently leaned them on a table. Not ideal, but these plants will not stand up without the walls.
After a full body workout with this beast, I managed to get it hung snuggly in the top corner of the room with some tie straps. It takes up alot more room, but still only restricts the height of 2 plants....just like my last scrubber, but by another 2 inches. A minor trade if you ask me.
Getting the girls back in was an adventure. I was as gentle as I possibly could be. While I was carrying the plants back to the room 1 by 1, they were literally laying on me like they were hugging me, lol. I'm still covered in resin as I type this. Sadly, 1 very large branch was lost. I spent about 3 hours in there trimming training and getting the rest of the plants back in room. I would guess at least 400 fan leaves were removed and cleaned away. Looks much better, and it only took 12 hrs. I have to get back in tonite to hook the light mover back up, and reset the blumats.
From now on, I'm changing scrubbers every year. No questions asked. Being that this is a reversible scrubber, I'll turn it around before my 3rd and last grow of every year....then start the next season with a new one. I love my super stinky diesel's, but I don't want the neighbors smellin em!
I'm still not exactly sure how, but this big ass odor reducing 80 lb reversible scrubber is hung, installed and scrubbing the air in my growroom. I removed the 3 plants on the right side of the room
noway and placed them in another room. I hung a flouro over them, and gently leaned them on a table. Not ideal, but these plants will not stand up without the walls. After a full body workout with this beast, I managed to get it hung snuggly in the top corner of the room with some tie straps. It takes up alot more room, but still only restricts the height of 2 plants....just like my last scrubber, but by another 2 inches. A minor trade if you ask me.
Getting the girls back in was an adventure. I was as gentle as I possibly could be. While I was carrying the plants back to the room 1 by 1, they were literally laying on me like they were hugging me, lol. I'm still covered in resin as I type this. Sadly, 1 very large branch was lost. I spent about 3 hours in there trimming training and getting the rest of the plants back in room. I would guess at least 400 fan leaves were removed and cleaned away. Looks much better, and it only took 12 hrs
. I have to get back in tonite to hook the light mover back up, and reset the blumats. From now on, I'm changing scrubbers every year. No questions asked. Being that this is a reversible scrubber, I'll turn it around before my 3rd and last grow of every year....then start the next season with a new one. I love my super stinky diesel's, but I don't want the neighbors smellin em!
Way to git 'er done, brother! for doing it PROPER. Hard work once vs leaving kinks and bumps that drain you over time...only way to do it...the RIGHT way.
dank.Frank
for doing it PROPER. Hard work once vs leaving kinks and bumps that drain you over time...only way to do it...the RIGHT way.dank.Frank
hey marlo ive been lurking around here and its great (in a way) to hear how odour is a bigger issue now you've moved to organics. i think organics, especially using guano, tends to be VERY smelly.
ive been using the airpots for a few rounds and i quite like them - ive been using the 10Litre airpots for my scrogs and managing to get 2-3 oz from each one.
couple of thoughts on the yellowing - i've found it's a good preventative measure to top-dress with some EWC as soon as the stretch has stopped.
also if you think you have PK deficiency as the grow progresses it may be worth trying peat rather than coco to mix with your FF. Peat itself will provide some N as well as being less likely to hold onto PK - which i have found to be the case when you use coco in a soil mix (although other people seem to get on just fine with it)
cheers
VG
ive been using the airpots for a few rounds and i quite like them - ive been using the 10Litre airpots for my scrogs and managing to get 2-3 oz from each one.
couple of thoughts on the yellowing - i've found it's a good preventative measure to top-dress with some EWC as soon as the stretch has stopped.
also if you think you have PK deficiency as the grow progresses it may be worth trying peat rather than coco to mix with your FF. Peat itself will provide some N as well as being less likely to hold onto PK - which i have found to be the case when you use coco in a soil mix (although other people seem to get on just fine with it)
cheers
VG
glad you got the odor under control man. nothing like added security
Way to git 'er done, brother!
It hurt, but I really had no choice. Live and learn I guess.
Wsup VG
I think the top dress of EWC and the tea I gave em a couple weeks ago was exactly what they needed. I'll definitely be planning to do that in upcoming runs.
I don't think I've had any PK issues but I have thought about switching to peat in the future. I doubt I'll make the switch just yet tho. I'm wanna see if the changes I have planned are gonna work before I add another new element.
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Okaaay okay...
The room is on Day 49. Things are moving smoothly now, considering the events of the past 2 weeks. No power for 4 days, and then the whole right side had to be removed for 12 hrs to install my new beast of a scrubber. Oh well, we'll make the best of it from here on out.
ROOMSHOT DAY 49
I learn alot in every grow, and this one is no different. You can see in this above pic ^^ the plant against the wall (my SD IBL keeper) is not fit to cut it in my setup. First off, the lack of stretch left a good portion of the wall empty. The top of the wall is supposed to be the productive part. Then, the lower portion of the wall is under developed. This is the stuff that wouldve been chopped off if the plant had a decent 2x stretch. Sucks because I really like the bud from this plant. And the colas she did make are the fattest in the room. But she's gonna have to go. I still have another pack of Rez's SD Ibl, so my search will continue. Growth profile is huge for me when picking keepers.
LEFT SIDE MESS
LEFT SIDE DSD
DSD
SFV SOUR #4
You can see in the 2 pics above ^^ on the right side of the picture there some buds that appear to be dying. That is the result of a snapped branch from the move. The branch did not break completely, and I thought it was going to survive. Sucks because that branch had some very good buds on it. A similar casualty happened on SFV Sour #6. F*ck.
SFV Sour #4 chunky lil nug from the bottom of the plant
Another thing I'm noticing is that the 2 seats in between the bulbs are turning out to be the least productive spots in the room. At least with the pheno's that are in there now. For future runs, these 2 spots will be reserved for any 1st time pheno's. This upcoming round will feature Phillthy's Bluetooths in both middle seats.
And because of the super branchy floppy stretchy profile of my DSD keeper, she will be left for the 2 front seats. They provide the most headroom directly in front of the bulbs and they are close enough that I can stay on top of their much needed training. Not to mention she can't fit under the scrubber on the right side.
SFV Sour #4 will have the 3 seats in the back. She can go weeks without being touched, trimmed or trained. And finally the seat right in front of the door will also be an experimental seat. SFV Sour #1 is gonna stay there for now.
I don't think this one is gonna be anywhere near 1gpw, but the only way to get there is to continue eliminating these problems when they pop up.
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We want pic's
Okaaay okay...
The room is on Day 49. Things are moving smoothly now, considering the events of the past 2 weeks. No power for 4 days, and then the whole right side had to be removed for 12 hrs to install my new beast of a scrubber. Oh well, we'll make the best of it from here on out.
ROOMSHOT DAY 49
I learn alot in every grow, and this one is no different. You can see in this above pic ^^ the plant against the wall (my SD IBL keeper) is not fit to cut it in my setup. First off, the lack of stretch left a good portion of the wall empty. The top of the wall is supposed to be the productive part. Then, the lower portion of the wall is under developed. This is the stuff that wouldve been chopped off if the plant had a decent 2x stretch. Sucks because I really like the bud from this plant. And the colas she did make are the fattest in the room. But she's gonna have to go. I still have another pack of Rez's SD Ibl, so my search will continue. Growth profile is huge for me when picking keepers.
LEFT SIDE MESS
LEFT SIDE DSD
DSD
SFV SOUR #4
You can see in the 2 pics above ^^ on the right side of the picture there some buds that appear to be dying. That is the result of a snapped branch from the move. The branch did not break completely, and I thought it was going to survive. Sucks because that branch had some very good buds on it. A similar casualty happened on SFV Sour #6. F*ck.
SFV Sour #4 chunky lil nug from the bottom of the plant
Another thing I'm noticing is that the 2 seats in between the bulbs are turning out to be the least productive spots in the room. At least with the pheno's that are in there now. For future runs, these 2 spots will be reserved for any 1st time pheno's. This upcoming round will feature Phillthy's Bluetooths in both middle seats.
And because of the super branchy floppy stretchy profile of my DSD keeper, she will be left for the 2 front seats. They provide the most headroom directly in front of the bulbs and they are close enough that I can stay on top of their much needed training. Not to mention she can't fit under the scrubber on the right side.
SFV Sour #4 will have the 3 seats in the back. She can go weeks without being touched, trimmed or trained. And finally the seat right in front of the door will also be an experimental seat. SFV Sour #1 is gonna stay there for now.
I don't think this one is gonna be anywhere near 1gpw, but the only way to get there is to continue eliminating these problems when they pop up.
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No sweat on the snapped branch situation, .. I've actually been horrible about it this time around. Two tops on my Purple Mr. Nice have gone (clean off), and two tops on my Ultimate Strawberry Diesel are snapped-but-connected.
Lookin' good man. those are some f*cking trees!
SFV SOUR #4 Hubba hubba
Pity about the Sour D not making your cut bro, I hear you on growth profile being high up on the list of 'wants' specially in a WOW grow.
The SFV Sour looks dank, and seems to be a winner for this style of grow... Is it just you want mixed flavours, just wondering why you don't run that mono-cropped...
Pity about the Sour D not making your cut bro, I hear you on growth profile being high up on the list of 'wants' specially in a WOW grow.
The SFV Sour looks dank, and seems to be a winner for this style of grow... Is it just you want mixed flavours, just wondering why you don't run that mono-cropped...
