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The Virus strikes!

944s2

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Another 3 weeks lockdown at least now.....

Yeah at least,,,,
Not surprised,,,,
Hopefully things will be relaxed at the end / start of the month,,,,
One positive is the young uns have stopped stabbing each other every day in London it seems,,,s2:tiphat:
 

f-e

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We know we are getting out in June. Every projection they have made is based on June. It has been that way since day one. It can't go past June either, because the dates been set in stone. The one where they explain to all the business paying once furloughed employees, what 'up to' 80% means. That it's not just the cap they quickly jump to talking about, it's 'up to' based on means. All help stops if you have 16k anywhere but the residence you live in. That will be the first thing we are reminded of. Next will be be something like the self employed issue where you can't get anything if you average over 50k a year. You should be able to look after yourself. This will rapidly reduce that huge amount we can't possibly give out. But we need people back at work, looking at a future, before that boot drops. In June. Everything is about June. First week I think.
 

mr.brunch

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I’m thinking they’ll start to open schools in may... shops/businesses in June ... but I expect they’ll keep the high risk people isolating longer.
I’ve heard people mention September for any change there.
 

TychoMonolyth

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If it continues past June, expect poverty on the scale of the great depression. Short of UBI, the government can't just keep printing money and handing it over. There isn't a helicopter big enough for that job.
 

Snook

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These trillions of dollar economy boosters: where is that money coming from? I'm betting that the trillions of dollars we (US) owes China will be taken off the top of those trillions we owe China. This will reduce the what?, 23 trillion in debt we owe them by couple $4-$5 trillion. Sick shit, we now talk about trillions like they are pennies.
 

TychoMonolyth

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Printing money devalues your dollar. If a Toaster used to cost you $25, it'll cost you $35. The upside is that it'll make it more competitive to manufacture it domestically again. The downside is the days of cheap consumer goods will go way up and double digit inflation will probably follow.

But I think the real danger is described in The Shock Doctrine. When there is a shock to the system, governments take actions in the guise of "fixing it" socially and economically.

Socially: Try going to the park and shoot some hoops with your buddies and see how long before the cops show up, play 20 questions with you, take down your ID, fine you and order you home. This is extreme, but how long will it last and what components will be with us forever.

Economically: During Iraq’s civil war, a new law is unveiled that would allow Shell and BP to claim the country’s vast oil reserves. After 9/11, the US took control of the oil in Iraq. After a tsunami wipes out the coasts of Southeast Asia, the pristine beaches are auctioned off to tourist resorts. New Orleans’s residents, scattered from Hurricane Katrina, discover that their public housing, hospitals and schools will never be reopened. It just goes on and on, never to "return".

We can't fight for everything, but unrolling the domestic social "medicine" COMPLETELY should be fought for with your life once the shock event has past or your freedoms will never return.
 
T

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Printing money devalues your dollar. If a Toaster used to cost you $25, it'll cost you $35. The upside is that it'll make it more competitive to manufacture it domestically again. The downside is the days of cheap consumer goods will go way up and double digit inflation will probably follow.

But I think the real danger is described in The Shock Doctrine. When there is a shock to the system, governments take actions in the guise of "fixing it" socially and economically.

Socially: Try going to the park and shoot some hoops with your buddies and see how long before the cops show up, play 20 questions with you, take down your ID, fine you and order you home. This is extreme, but how long will it last and what components will be with us forever.

Economically: During Iraq’s civil war, a new law is unveiled that would allow Shell and BP to claim the country’s vast oil reserves. After 9/11, the US took control of the oil in Iraq. After a tsunami wipes out the coasts of Southeast Asia, the pristine beaches are auctioned off to tourist resorts. New Orleans’s residents, scattered from Hurricane Katrina, discover that their public housing, hospitals and schools will never be reopened. It just goes on and on, never to "return".

We can't fight for everything, but unrolling the domestic social "medicine" COMPLETELY should be fought for with your life once the shock event has past or your freedoms will never return.

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Gypsy Nirvana

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- We could play - 'Follow Da Money' - and try and figure out who really wins out of this tremendous upheaval in our daily lives - I already know who's losing - yes, the general population is losing lives, jobs and livelihoods - but who's actually winning by making more than they have ever done - because of the pandemic?

- For starters it looks to me like the corporate suppliers of all essential goods are raking it in - with millions of people stocking up with food and household goods - whoever comes up with the state approved vaccine to covid19 will clean up and be worth billions overnight - if they are not already part of some pharmaceutical/industrial complex - which is likely -
 
T

TheForgotten

but who's actually winning by making more than they have ever done - because of the pandemic?

- For starters it looks to me like the corporate suppliers of all essential goods are raking it in - with millions of people stocking up with food and household goods - whoever comes up with the state approved vaccine to covid19 will clean up and be worth billions overnight - if they are not already part of some pharmaceutical/industrial complex - which is likely -

Big Media (corporate broadcasting, advertising), government contract manufacturers, Big Pharmaceutical, Big Tobacco, defence contractors, all whilst Big Oil and Automanufacturing (who joined forces many years ago) suffer.... a power-play?


I don't think the virus was used as a weapon, but i do think when tragedy happens, the nefarious forces in the world say to themselves, 'here's an opportunity'....
 

Cmoon

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Well guys,gals:tiphat: long way down the road since I opened this thread and pretty much the only views I take serious anymore is from the weed community.


I think last two posts says it all and if not for free labour were the fook would the world be now:moon:
 

Cmoon

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Panic over Gavin Williams takes the hot seat:laughing:


Morgan will turn him over like a ten bob hooker within next week:moon:
 

BigPhil

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I think the virus was a weapon, Used to take away more of our freedoms. Just like when 9/11 happened. Baby steps at a time to reach an goal at the end. Remember the 2012 NHS olympics opening ceremony? How weird it looked...

Think of it as 3000 years ago people doing ceremonies before the sacrifice.. Nothing has changed It's still the rich and powerful doing their weird magic shit. They have to act it out for it too manifest.

Watch it on YouTube. We got all the nurses dancing (much like how they was at the start of the pandemic) There was a Royal in the hospital bed (Boris? Charles?) You nannys coming down from the Sky with unbrella's that look like the corvid-19. They point the umbrellas at the Dr's who then went too the kids beds, Who was like get away from me too the DR's.. Death shows up bringing cats? And germs. Child catcher was taking away Children at the end (probably from all the dead) Then at the very end a giant baby was born... I think that represented a New Start.
 

shaggyballs

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- We could play - 'Follow Da Money' - and try and figure out who really wins out of this tremendous upheaval in our daily lives - I already know who's losing - yes, the general population is losing lives, jobs and livelihoods - but who's actually winning by making more than they have ever done - because of the pandemic?

- For starters it looks to me like the corporate suppliers of all essential goods are raking it in - with millions of people stocking up with food and household goods - whoever comes up with the state approved vaccine to covid19 will clean up and be worth billions overnight - if they are not already part of some pharmaceutical/industrial complex - which is likely -

Well said!
Follow the money.
Does the name fauci fit the bill?
I think he matches gypsy's description anyway.
 

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