I'd just like it to be someone (anyone!) with an once of the leadership ability we're going to need in the coming years.
.... so far I don't see that in any of the candidates on either side, "what a world" indeed.
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I'd just like it to be someone (anyone!) with an once of the leadership ability we're going to need in the coming years.
.... so far I don't see that in any of the candidates on either side, "what a world" indeed.
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xavier7995
Honestly, it would behoove both sides to not debate. Biden got his ass kicked in the debates other than one single performance where he was deemed OK. Trumps a moron who got destroyed debating Hillary.
I dont think the performances either person will put up will make a bit of difference.
Only way I'm getting behind it is if we can have fact checkers and whatever you want to call people that make them answer the questions asked that have some sort of bucket and pulley system to drop slime on the candidates like double dare.
I dont think the performances either person will put up will make a bit of difference.
Only way I'm getting behind it is if we can have fact checkers and whatever you want to call people that make them answer the questions asked that have some sort of bucket and pulley system to drop slime on the candidates like double dare.
trump wasn't asking for help with an official criminal matter, but cockamamie conspiracy theories on level of q bullshit.
there's also a process that trump did absolutely not adhere to.
White Beard
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Agreeing with a BUNDY...*and* the post-Buckley Review...how far will this go? Makes me feel like I need a shower...
I was a member back then...virtually certain I would have noticed such a drastic change of tone and direction had it happened then.
What I remember is the way the conversation about *everything* political changed after Clinton gained the WH. The whole UN troops in black helicopters? Going door-to-door to take away guns? And those who wouldn’t admit to having any - who were going straight to the gulag? Anybody? It *was* the build-up to the Gingrich GOP taking over the House and issuing his contract on America, so ‘91-‘92...
Essentially correct: I’d call it extorting the Ukrainian president to obtain aid against a (still-only-presumed) political opponent
BM only knows what certain people tell him
You really are the poster-child for the failure of modern education in the US...or you would KNOW that this country is FIRST about self-government and the rule of law IN DIRECT OPPOSITION TO THE WHIMS OF TYRANTS AND MONARCHS. Try reading the documents. Actually READ them, not just ‘be told’ about them. You also make it crystal-clear you have NO IDEA what is or is not “communist” except for what you’re told by the same false (and malicious?) “sources” you depend on for all your other...learnings.
so in other words, cancel culture. there's a reason it was ruled unconstitutional. because it's against the first ammendment. i guarantee the supreme court would strike it down.
you're not a libertarian.
VP Henry Wallace knew what's good. Dude was saying this shit back in the 1940's.
- "American fascism will not be really dangerous until there is a purposeful coalition among
the cartelists, the deliberate poisoners of public information, and those who stand for the
K.K.K. type of demagoguery."
- "Fascism is a worldwide disease. Its greatest threat to the United States will come after the
war, either via Latin America or within the United States itself."
- "They claim to be superpatriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution. They demand free enterprise, but are the spokesmen for monopoly and vested interest.
Their final objective toward which all their deceit is directed is to capture political power so
that, using the power of the state and the power of the market simultaneously, they may
keep the common man in eternal subjection." (modern day right wing libertarians)
- "The worldwide, agelong struggle between fascism and democracy will not stop when the
fighting ends in Germany and Japan. Democracy can win the peace only if it does two
things:
Speeds up the rate of political and economic inventions so that both production and,
especially, distribution can match in their power and practical effect on the daily life of
the common man the immense and growing volume of scientific research, mechanical
invention and management technique(It's precisely not doing this, which is why we're in the predicament that we're in).
Vivifies with the greatest intensity the spiritual processes which are both the foundation and the very essence of democracy. The moral and spiritual aspects of both personal and international relationships have a practical bearing which so-called practical men deny. This dullness of vision regarding the importance of the general welfare to the individual is the measure of the failure of our schools and churches to teach the spiritual significance of genuine democracy. Until democracy in effective enthusiastic action fills the vacuum created by the power of modern inventions, we may expect the fascists to increase in power after the war both in the United States and in the world.
Fascism in the postwar inevitably will push steadily for Anglo-Saxon imperialism and eventually for war with Russia. Already American fascists are talking and writing about this conflict and using it as an excuse for their internal hatreds and intolerances toward certain races, creeds and classes."
- "American fascism will not be really dangerous until there is a purposeful coalition among
the cartelists, the deliberate poisoners of public information, and those who stand for the
K.K.K. type of demagoguery."
- "Fascism is a worldwide disease. Its greatest threat to the United States will come after the
war, either via Latin America or within the United States itself."
- "They claim to be superpatriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution. They demand free enterprise, but are the spokesmen for monopoly and vested interest.
Their final objective toward which all their deceit is directed is to capture political power so
that, using the power of the state and the power of the market simultaneously, they may
keep the common man in eternal subjection." (modern day right wing libertarians)
- "The worldwide, agelong struggle between fascism and democracy will not stop when the
fighting ends in Germany and Japan. Democracy can win the peace only if it does two
things:
Speeds up the rate of political and economic inventions so that both production and,
especially, distribution can match in their power and practical effect on the daily life of
the common man the immense and growing volume of scientific research, mechanical
invention and management technique(It's precisely not doing this, which is why we're in the predicament that we're in).
Vivifies with the greatest intensity the spiritual processes which are both the foundation and the very essence of democracy. The moral and spiritual aspects of both personal and international relationships have a practical bearing which so-called practical men deny. This dullness of vision regarding the importance of the general welfare to the individual is the measure of the failure of our schools and churches to teach the spiritual significance of genuine democracy. Until democracy in effective enthusiastic action fills the vacuum created by the power of modern inventions, we may expect the fascists to increase in power after the war both in the United States and in the world.
Fascism in the postwar inevitably will push steadily for Anglo-Saxon imperialism and eventually for war with Russia. Already American fascists are talking and writing about this conflict and using it as an excuse for their internal hatreds and intolerances toward certain races, creeds and classes."
Hey Amy, sad to say but a lot of folks make no differentiation between socialism/communism, it's all the same to them as in 'unamerican'.
lol, i was gonna say we need jj abrams to do a reboot on 2020...but i forgot he got cancelled!
When I and all my friends were right wing Ron Paultards one of the guiding principles of right-libertarianism is the idea behind a misattributed Voltaire quote (idk who originally said it) - "I may not agree with what you're saying but I'll defend your right to the death to say it"
seems like a far cry from where they're at today
seems like a far cry from where they're at today
There is also supposed to be probable cause to begin a special investigation....none of which was adhered to and began the democrats witch hunt....
So spare us your hollier than thou opinion of what you think trump did....thats how demos shit the bed on their joke impeachment
Each of them were merely foils, as is the current favorite, the terrorist.
They have all served well. Has been suggested that next up
may well be an other worldly figure.
White Beard
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Awkwadly phrased, no doubt: but *anyone* with the language skills of a fifth-grader (60 years ago) would have been able to parse it - a thing clearly beyond you, based on your ‘analysis’
Bone found! (sort of)
Biden was not the de-facto nominee at the time, but he *was* running. Dolt45 wanted “insurance”, in the form of a thing to work his innuendo and character-assassination schtick on.
'Boogieman'
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If communists take control the first thing they would do is lock up their opposition and anybody else with opposing views. I was trolling a bit with the execution talk but we would definitely break out into civil war before communists ever took power.
that doesn't speak to trump's guilt nor innocence. only to the intracies of bureaucracy.
it's obvious from the transcript what was going on, read it.
that's a ridiculous claim. one could make a similar claim about trump trying to consolidate his power and assume an authoritarian position, something he has 'joked' about too many times to laugh at anymore.
are either of us right?
well, for one thing, trump is one person but you haven't even described your idealized communist.
what does 'communism' mean to you cause it seems like you are describing authoritarianism.
'Boogieman'
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I was arguing with somebody on Facebook recently and he snapped and told me when the left takes power people like me will be sent to the gulag and executed if I don't get with the program. He said he was a member of the California communist party or something very similar. Communism is state control, much like a dictatorship.
that guy sounds like an unhinged moron.
you can't just call dictatorship and communism the same thing. a dictatorship isn't at all communist, it's authoritarian.
authoritarianism is the polar opposite of communism.
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