The terpene of haze?

[Dr.Young]

I know there is a broad range of terpenes in haze types.. Lemony, metallic, floral, musky... but that incense pine/frankincense smell is what i am speaking of when i say haze. I know its not technically specific to haze.... but it is somewhat a distinguished trait of haze offspring.......
Does anyone have experience with lab analyzed stuff and think Pinene is the key? Terpinolene? Linalool?

 

[HyDroid]

For me the Haze smell is a lot of what has been described (sour and wood, lemon and pine, incense) but the signature is the spice smell which on it's own is somewhat peppery but which can transform into sharper, tart funky acidic, musky and maybe even close to yogurt when combined with the lemon, piney, incense smells. At the moment I think the key to that spiciness is

β-caryophyllene

 

[Dr.Young]

Caryophyllene is a very common terp in a lot of stuff, definitely not the key/uniqueness to haze.... Myrcene, and Caryophyllene are very common..

I look at myrcene, and Caryophylene as Base terps for most weed...
Say you have a strain with Myrcene and Limonene so its a fruity musky lemon......
Say you have a strain with Caryophylene and Limonene so its a spicey woody lemon...

Those seem like the common types..

Just guessing but the haze i envision is Myrcene,Pinene, Linalool.... for a Musky floral frankincense

 

[TheDarkStorm]

I know there is a broad range of terpenes in haze types.. Lemony, metallic, floral, musky... but that incense pine/frankincense smell is what i am speaking of when i say haze. I know its not technically specific to haze.... but it is somewhat a distinguished trait of haze offspring.......
Does anyone have experience with lab analyzed stuff and think Pinene is the key? Terpinolene? Linalool?

Some one I know still holds a haze, with heavy pine tones, with frankincense, cardamom and camphor with some underlying very seductive flowery type scent in the background...it breeds true for these traits....I know wen nevil originally made the f1's with the hazes he used those traits were there too....when futher inbred those traits would change with fruity tones like lemon, orange or mango depending on what had been used as the other p1 parent taking a fore note..and those incense, champhor, sandlewood, spice, leather, frankincense tones taking more and more of a back note...until the point they would be almost unrecognizable as the same strain apart from a faint background of what was originally there.

 

[browntrout]

TheDarkStorm , which haze strain is this? Any info on your friends cutting?

 

[OldCoolSativa]

A few years ago I googled a terpene analysis of Omani frankincense, entered the data into a spreadsheet, and produced this graph. It's mostly about the α-pinene, IMO. I select for piney aromas, among other things.

 

[...CR500AF...]

Man is that funny i personally do not like the woody, pine cone taste on the exhale, But with that said i have had some very good
experiences with those strains they are just not my favorite taste. For myself that is why you judge your weed on the effects, not looks smell, taste. JMO...

 

[CrustyCruz]

A few years ago I googled a terpene analysis of Omani frankincense, entered the data into a spreadsheet, and produced this graph. It's mostly about the α-pinene, IMO. I select for piney aromas, among other things.

The chart shows volumes. Quality and quality antagonize in nature. The odor detection threshold of pinene is pretty high. And terpenes should not be elevated to high levels. You should breed against dead weight. A "pine" strain with zero pinene will kill the craft market in a few years.

Terpenes are nonsense anyway. Most of the monterpenes people talk about are literal flaws in Cannabis. All terpenes tell me is how flawed everyone's weed, approaches to breeding, growing practices and general thought process is.


Leather? Aldehydes. Oranges? Aldehydes. I wonder if β-Boswellic Aldehyde is a terpene?

 

[CrustyCruz]

Terpene talk has done nothing but make people accept vape pens, and has wasted millions of dollars on worthless cancer research studying molecules that NEVER did anything the cannabis community has claimed.

 

[CrustyCruz]

The characteristic smell molecule of Frankincense

http://www.chemspider.com/Chemical-S...3-45236c098ef1


Still not sure why anyone is worried about terpenes in Haze or frankincense,or weed. The molecules that actually do something positive are much cooler.
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Sorry op (True Terpenes) you can't buy that from China.. I'll keep laughing at the shit dispensaries are passing off as "Sativa". You keep maintaining that guilty conscience about poisoning people with fake weed.

 

[Hammerhead]

I'm not very fond of Frankincense.. At least the stuff in our aroma diffuser sucks..

You cant even be sure if the weed you buy did not have terps added. We don't need china anymore to buy terps. Everyone that can should grow their own to be sure...

 

[CrustyCruz]

https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articl...acid-and-myrrh

The only acid most people know is lysergic I guess. You'd have to be on lsd to believe any of the green rush mafia's claims.


Capitalism is the only reason the Cannabis community is under the terpene spell. Addicted to fruit scrap waste stream products with negative health consequences? Readily available generic commercial bulk cleaning agents are responsible for the medicine in Cannabis?
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Gee, who cast this spell, I can't imagine. We throw fruit peels away in my home. Our grandkids know better than to ingest the floor cleaner. It must be something in the hydro nutes...

And the breeders using labs to breed for terpene levels. These are people completely ruining the gene pool. Luckily their smoke won't stand the test of time on the streets. Dispensaries can have the terpene weed. All the strains that stick around the hood have the same things in common,and it's not terpenes. Too bad for the historic record that everyone growing skunk got shut down before legalization, and only upper class shitty frat bro oopsie first grow type of pot was legal during the historic event of federal legalization.



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[CrustyCruz]

Bump. Terps are so cool I hope someone finds a concoction that can compare to real weed someday soon. Because terpenes are so fuckin cool man.

Fuck real weed. Terpenes bro. I love terpenes. Terpene was my first word. We worship terpene in churches where I'm from.


Come on terp bros, make my Haze better with terpene myths. Fill my brain with vape pen marketing so my weed is better.

 

[Hammerhead]

 

[f-e]

https://weedmaps.com/news/2021/06/why-we-should-be-smelling-weed-before-we-buy-it/

They think about 5 or 6 matter. It's hard to compare their nose to mine though. I struggle to separate some of the descriptions.

Sure... cover a bud in orange zest, and my memory map will take me to Agent Orange. This may effect me. Like my surrounds having a trip do. I can't 'rubbish' the idea of a terps effect.

 

[El Timbo]

All the strains that stick around the hood have the same things in common,and it's not terpenes.

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Are you saying they don't have terpenes of any sort? I'm a bit confused about your point.

 

[Dr.Young]

Dark storm you speak with good descriptions I can tell you are a good judge on this.... Sounds like you could certainly judge what I desire.... PM me sometime mang.. Id love to hear more about your friends stuff for sure!

 

[Roms]

I'm curious for someone with experience of analysed stuff...
Is terpinolene the most important terpene for the incesey haze smell?

Theres much conflicting information on the internet. I've seen talk of pinene, linalool, terpinolene....
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Hi Dr Young, myrcene terp has not be mentioned but its role is important and major i think. Principaly combined with pinene a & b and then a few of other ones like terpinolene and/or linalol yes.

Anyway haze word is too big, to better understand and explore it people need to smell and smoke the differences between each landraces pure divas...

 

[MAHA KALA]

 

[...CR500AF...]

Hey MAHA i wrote this out so many different ways so here it is. I said it before i will say it again effect is the only thing that matters...