The Search for Trip Weed

[ThaiBliss]

So going back and reading my post made me wonder if I came off as dismissive or anything on your smoke report.

There was a moment of pause, but that actually helped to put a grin on my face. It made it more humorous.

Thanks for the compliments on the bushes. The plants do it all on their own. All one needs is shit tons of compost, and an early start so you know which are female before planting in the ground. Because I'm so lazy, I learned that you don't even need to dig a hole. The roots, worms, and michorrhizae do it all themselves. I'm probably not giving credit to a slew of other organisms. It amazes me how so many people put so much work into it. I never pinch the tops or train them. Given room, they turn into giant bowling balls on their own, if they are hybrids.

Have not had good trip weed since I just the service, that was very long ago.
Any good stuff still around?

I think there is. I'm spending so much time looking for a certain extreme version. Searching is fun. "Trip" is very subjective. It's shorter and catchier than "extremely powerful cerebral smoke". But I do think there is a wide spectrum of trip experience. Many do not agree.

Please tell us a tale about the trip weed you experienced a very long time ago. It might help with recommendations.

 

[EnjoyingLife]

That Nanan is weird stuff for sure. I gave up on it, as time went on I got a more 'dirty' effect. Not the trip I want but it is trippy. I hope the intense sun will help with your search for bliss. The plants are going to get all the sun has to offer there.

Can you explain this dirty effect?
Was it the effect or the come down, both?

 

[EnjoyingLife]

I've been on a quest for high amperage trip weed here's my latest purchase, anyone try this one ?
somali taxi ride from rare dankness, came with ghost train haze #1 freebies

I've heard nothing but good things about ghost train.
I have a cartridge of it from bloom and it's great!
Up, focus, enhanced colors, happy inducing.
I built tolerance pretty quick but it seems it goes away just as fast. I stopped vaping it for around two weeks (switched carts not stopped vaping) and the tolerance I had was noticably less.
I haven't tried somali taxi ride.

 

[MarineOne]

There was a moment of pause, but that actually helped to put a grin on my face. It made it more humorous.

Thanks for the compliments on the bushes. The plants do it all on their own. All one needs is shit tons of compost, and an early start so you know which are female before planting in the ground. Because I'm so lazy, I learned that you don't even need to dig a hole. The roots, worms, and michorrhizae do it all themselves. I'm probably not giving credit to a slew of other organisms. It amazes me how so many people put so much work into it. I never pinch the tops or train them. Given room, they turn into giant bowling balls on their own, if they are hybrids.

I think there is. I'm spending so much time looking for a certain extreme version. Searching is fun. "Trip" is very subjective. It's shorter and catchier than "extremely powerful cerebral smoke". But I do think there is a wide spectrum of trip experience. Many do not agree.

Please tell us a tale about the trip weed you experienced a very long time ago. It might help with recommendations.

OK from what I remember it was a fantastic feeling, lots of pretty colors and movements in my mind.
Nothing stood out except the effects, similar to a very short shroom trip. lasted 3omins and gone.

 

[ThaiBliss]

Greetings,

I'm excited about my plants today. It's a brilliantly clear day. It reminds me of the summer sky back in Oregon. No doubt very high UV rays today. One of my plants is progressing quickly. Considering it is 50% Thai, 25% Mullum, and 25% a longer flowering pheno of Neville's Haze, I'm surprised at the progress.

The other plant, oh I want to write about the other plant today, is a very different story. This is crawling along like molasses in the winter. It showed it's first pistil, and was put outside the first of November. It was too late due to the seedling trouble and ignorance I had, I know. But gee whiz, It's been "flowering" two months and has very little to show for it. This individual expression has to have very strong Gypsy Nirvana Thai Stick influence. It's also very light yellow green color and very skinny leaves. This is the plant that even highly experienced sativa dominant growers didn't want to use except to cross to an indica. LOL! This is making me look down on Mullum and Neville's Haze. I'm just kidding. What started this public search is because a particular pheno, probably the acid pheno, of Neville's Haze was on par with, if not the best weed I ever smoked.

While I'm dissapointed this plant doesn't have the pungent turpentine/catpiss aroma that another test plant had, it sure has a strong pepper, spicy, metalic, medicine-like funk to it. I rubbed my fingers on an older part of the stem, about halfway up the plant. I got quite the noseful. I could smell it on my fingers for a good few hours later. So good yet in such a bad way. Smells dangerous.


I'm afraid I'm going to have to repot this plant again. Please stop stretching and start fattening up!

The color of this plant is just so vibrantly glowing. I love it! Look at those razor thin leaves.

I´m imagining the buds getting fully ripe, and smelling much stronger than the stem. Good gosh! I think this needs to not reveg until late May. I did read on the Real Seed Company website that some of the Thai Lao strain's later plantings don't get harvested until April. I keep looking for hope.

Look. Almost nothing to show for the first two months. Ugh! I'll be ready next year, damn it. I'm happy about the seeds though.

I understand that the wise thing to do is not fall in love with a plant. Wait for the results of the smoke. In addition, I should also open pollinate as much as possible at this stage. But if the smoke from this plant reminds me of Thai Stick, how am I supposed to spend time looking through F2 seeds from the other plant? I guess I'll just listen to Luther.

Luther Burbank - "Breed the best, and forget the rest."

Best Vibes!

 

[EnjoyingLife]

OK from what I remember it was a fantastic feeling, lots of pretty colors and movements in my mind.
Nothing stood out except the effects, similar to a very short shroom trip. lasted 3omins and gone.

Did it leave you with the shroom glow or ready for bed?

 

[MarineOne]

Did it leave you with the shroom glow or ready for bed?

I guess it would have gone either way, I was laying down after a bad day , So I ended just laying there for about 2 hrs and got up very refreshed .

 

[ThaiBliss]

One week since I chopped down the last male, I'm finally seeing some bunches of pistils accumulating. So slow...

Rubbed a smaller fresher stem and it smelled of lemon pepper. Now I'm thinking the older stalk had concentrated lemon bitters scents or lemon rind aroma.

Go baby GO!

 

[ThaiBliss]

My fast blooming plant is exciting because it looks like it will finish, maybe as early as about a month. If so, I won't have to smoke some crappy cripy, or whatever they call indica hybrids here. Technically, it is a hybrid, but it has been crossed back to a pure sativa at least once, maybe more. Given the pedigree, the floor should be high, and the ceiling should be really high.

Looks like I might have accidentally flipped a setting on my camera. The images are coming out weird looking. Maybe it's the plants, and the highs will be cartoonish.

In "real life" the buds have a wet looking shimmer in the early morning low angle light. The pictures make it look frosty. I drink my morning coffee watching the sun start to strike the plants. I'm thoroughly addicted to growing.

 

[ThaiBliss]

Greetings,

I have some observations on the aromas of my two plants.

Early Flowering Expression: I'm starting to smell this plant from a distance away. It smells sweet, piney, and fuel-like. The sweet part is slightly floral. It also has a bit of that old school weed smell, that I associate with many Mexican strains. My neighbors in this area grow angel's trumpet, and the first brief moment I caught a whiff of this plant from 30 feet away, I couldn't tell if I might be smelling angel's trumpet.

It occurs to me that the sweet piney part of the aroma reminds me of the Nanan Bouclou. I had assumed that the sweet aroma from the Nanan Bouclou came from the "Haitian indica" side of that cross. Now I'm wondering if the somewhat fat leaf, relatively, in the Mullumbimby Madness part of these genes comes from a Papua New Guinea strain. Please forgive my wild speculation and ramblings.

Late Flowering Plant: The front and center smell is a spicy, black pepper aroma. It is strong. I don't remember the other plant smelling this strong at this stage in flowering. I can smell this plant from about 5 feet away. The next strongest aroma is a piney smell, and catpiss. I associate these smells with each other, but this aroma leans much more to the cat piss side, a bitter and ammonia-like smell. I don't smell any citrus aromas unless I do stem rubbings.

So not only is this plant flowering agonizingly slowly, it's leaves are much thinner, and the aromas are a lot like the Thai Sticks that I remember. I'm thrilled that all these traits are pointing to an expression that reminds me of those skinny brownish and green Thai Sticks that are burned into my memory.

Hahaha! I'm posting at a rate of two times a week. I have no patience. It has been a few years since I've been able to grow, and I have missed it a great deal.

All the Best!

 

[Nextgeneration73]

Hi CH13
Correct me if I'm wrong when I was reading, 40yrs night hour smoking
KA5H Haze A x Old Killer Malawi pheno had the most intense visuals at night time

What about during the day? Btw I wrote a private message in the chat if you could find it because they are tricky to locate. But most people don't seem to really use the pm chats, neither did I at first!

 

[ThaiBliss]

Greetings,

More observations about my plants and the local climate.

The weather here has been unusual, according to the locals. It has been clouding up most afternoons. Normally, this far into the dry season it isn't so humid. It barely rains at all, but it is often cloudy one third of the day. This has led me to ponder the thought that the U.S.A. west coast Mediterranean climate is so good for growing because of the total accumulated UV rays over the entire summer. It is so very dry and clear there nearly all of the summer.

Today it is extremely clear here near the equator and at altitude. Boy oh boy is the sun intense under these conditions. Wow! It's dangerous outside. Seriously.

Plant #1 is stinking to high heaven, and sparkling in the light. The majority of the pistils are starting to get that wormy look. It's ripening faster than I ever imagined.

When I grew these seeds indoors, they had flush after frigging never ending flush of fresh pistils. It will be interesting to see how they behave outside closer to their native conditions. They didn't look anything like these do outside. And there you have it. That's why growing sativa plants is regulated to only those that appreciate the kind of spectacular highs you can get from them, by people who know what they are doing. I wish I had been a better grower. I had to cheat and move here. LOL.

Plant #2 is really starting to lay up resin also. It glistens in the morning light. It may get equally as resinous as plant #1. Incredibly cool plant!

It will be fascinating to see if either of these gets fully ripe, and when / if they reveg successfully.

I'll try to go another week before posting pics so that they look a little different than the prevous pictures. LMAO!

 

[kokomarin]

My othxoh and smoh finished similar in smell,camfor dominant at mediterrian sea coastal climate 43n

Othxsmoh seeded,today

 

[ThaiBliss]

Congrats on what looks like a well finished haze plant. I'd love to hear smoke reports on this and the parents.

My othxoh and smoh

Sorry, not sure what these are. I´m guessing...

Old Timer's Haze x Original Haze
Santa Marta x Original Haze

Was this just harvested with seeds? I hope so. I love the outcrossing while staying in the same genre. That's how you do it.

Thanks for sharing on this thread!

 

[yesum]

The weather here has been unusual, according to the locals. It has been clouding up most afternoons. Normally, this far into the dry season it isn't so humid. It barely rains at all, but it is often cloudy one third of the day. This has led me to ponder the thought that the U.S.A. west coast Mediterranean climate is so good for growing because of the total accumulated UV rays over the entire summer. It is so very dry and clear there nearly all of the summer.

I have a theory that the trippiest pot will be grown with intense sun if even off an on, and not total uv over the life of the plant. Also I feel some strains will not respond to the intense sun like others. UV may not play that big of a role in effects but overall intensity.

I have Michoacan that I grow in a tent and it is identical to Mexican mountain grown of the same strain from 1974 in everyway. Mallard's astute knowledge notwithstanding. Luck of the draw on that.

 

[Donald Mallard]

im in agreeance with that ,
knowing and spending time in places plenty of trip weed has been grown ,
the dry season is harvest time , and its been hot and dry for sometime prior to harvest ,
with very little humidity ,
the opposite of what many seem to think of tropical places as ..
this aids in producing the sort of weed those places all became famous for ,
sure its genetics too , that and nature go hand in hand to produce the effect we know as tripping weed i think ..
and yesum ,, i have no doubt what you grew was similar , we have all had experiences like that ,
my question was your saying it was identical,
to an experience you had 40 to 50 years prior ,
memories just don't work that well man,
its not that i doubt your experience,,
and im sure you have a good memory , but identical , exact from that man years ago ,
im sceptical at the very least , most would be too ...

 

[kokomarin]

Smoh is seedsman haze,so I made seeds
smohxsmoh from Madmac repro and JohnnyC othxsmoh xsmoh.
I like your move to tropical area from oregon and ten years old thred here.,
I looking for lemon,peper,gunpowder in pure eqvatorian landrace to make more complex terpene profile in the future.
Even with this camfor dom smell ,metally,leather,carrots this genetic is champagne in weed world.
High is long lasting mild narcotic punch with deep ,positive,focused line in brain from early samples.

 

[Nexus7]

I have a theory that the trippiest pot will be grown with intense sun if even off an on, and not total uv over the life of the plant. Also I feel some strains will not respond to the intense sun like others. UV may not play that big of a role in effects but overall intensity.

I have Michoacan that I grow in a tent and it is identical to Mexican mountain grown of the same strain from 1974 in everyway. Mallard's astute knowledge notwithstanding. Luck of the draw on that.

My UV is 12 or 13 on the index each and every day during the summer and I don't consider my plants any trippier than the indoor or imported stuff.

There must be something else to it imho ...

 

[ThaiBliss]

Even with this camfor dom smell ,metally,leather,carrots this genetic is champagne in weed world.

Thanks for the clarification.

I think I mix up camfor with menthol. If we are talking about the same cannabis terpene(s), I'd have to say that camfor or menthol presence is in some very high quality smoke. Two very highly regarded lineages have it, Hawaiian and Laotian. In addition, the strain I worked with in California and Oregon that I spent a good part of my life working on now has significant menthol smelling terpenes. I'm proud of that work, not necessarily for that particular terpene, but for the entourage effect of the high. The metalic smell is noticible to me in the best expressions of Thai and Haze.

knowing and spending time in places plenty of trip weed has been grown ,
the dry season is harvest time , and its been hot and dry for sometime prior to harvest ,
with very little humidity

It's one of the reasons I'm here. I'm hoping it gets drier here before harvest, like it did last year at this time.

I have a theory that the trippiest pot will be grown with intense sun if even off an on, and not total uv over the life of the plant. Also I feel some strains will not respond to the intense sun like others. UV may not play that big of a role in effects but overall intensity.

Having a choice, I choose more intense sun than not, every time. But like you, I've seen stark examples that seem to belie the UV rule. Side by side tests I've done with cuttings that got ripe early enough proved that outdoor was always better, even if they look leafier and not as resinous as indoor. However, the strongest and best high I ever had was from an indoor plant with mixed halide and sodium lighting. I never was able to grow that cutting outside. I sure wish I could have. The only conclusion to that experience would be that the intense outdoor sun with all it's UV light in not necessary for all genetic expressions, even if it is very helpful for the vast majority of them. It wouldn't bother me at all if I am able refine my experience and top that one special cutting I had indoors with a better smoke from outside here.

 

[Donald Mallard]

My UV is 12 or 13 on the index each and every day during the summer and I don't consider my plants any trippier than the indoor or imported stuff.

There must be something else to it imho ...

sure there is ,
like yesum said , its the whole package ,
not just one thing , uv , heat , sun intensity , dryness ,
and growing plants that are accustomed to this over many generations i guess ,
all these things combined,

gets some pretty high uv where i live at 3000 ft in the tropics ,
up to 17 at specific times of the year ,
one of the highest rates of skin cancer in the world ,
might be from the amount of white people living here ,
whose skin is just not made for that sort of punishment ...
its not recommended going out into the sun for long without covering oneself ...