The Scary New American Passports

[The Uncola]

Mine expires end of 2011. Think that's long enough to get rid of Dubyuh? He may cancel the 2008 elections claiming "i'm a war preznit,elections not good for me now"

He is concerned about his Legacy. I'm thinking it will be real close to Pol Pot or Idi Amin.
Course ol' Idi will be hard to beat. He was rumored to have eaten flesh from some of his genocide victims. Presidentin is Hard Work!!

 

[zamalito]

Hedonism bot, someone must have sold you a forged passport. According to the government an unexpedited passport is anywhere from 40 to $85 depending on age and whether your previous passport was less than 15 years old. Its 67 for a new passport for someone who's over 16 to get it by mail plus an extra $60 governmental fees for expediting. This is yet to mention the $30 fee for the acceptance facility who takes your application and seals it in the envelope before you send it off by mail. All of this still doesn't take into consideration the fees for the private expediting service. So how the hell did you get a legitimate expedited passport recently for $50? Are you sure it is real?

As far as the things about taxes. The facts I stated are true. However noone has ever won in court trying to contest being forced to pay taxes. 12 families do own a controlling share of the member banks that control the federal reserve. Please read a study punlished in 1976 entitled federal reserv directors: a study of corporate influence. The irs has openly stated in court that they are a private corporation also. In black's law dictionary the irs and federal reserve are both clearly labeled as private corporations. They have been given the power to enforce tax law by the government but that is kind of a grey area. I actually saw that someone's offering a $300,000 reward if you can find the law that says you have to pay taxes. I doubt they'd pay it anyways.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7403366410552837196

 

[Guest]

I got my passport from the post office back in 05 and from what I can remember it was like 65$ for the passport and another 40$ to have it expedited but my memory is hazy so it could have been more.

 

[robobond]

Hedonism bot, someone must have sold you a forged passport. According to the government an unexpedited passport is anywhere from 40 to $85 depending on age and whether your previous passport was less than 15 years old. Its 67 for a new passport for someone who's over 16 to get it by mail plus an extra $60 governmental fees for expediting. This is yet to mention the $30 fee for the acceptance facility who takes your application and seals it in the envelope before you send it off by mail. All of this still doesn't take into consideration the fees for the private expediting service. So how the hell did you get a legitimate expedited passport recently for $50? Are you sure it is real?

As far as the things about taxes. The facts I stated are true. However noone has ever won in court trying to contest being forced to pay taxes. 12 families do own a controlling share of the member banks that control the federal reserve. Please read a study punlished in 1976 entitled federal reserv directors: a study of corporate influence. The irs has openly stated in court that they are a private corporation also. In black's law dictionary the irs and federal reserve are both clearly labeled as private corporations. They have been given the power to enforce tax law by the government but that is kind of a grey area. I actually saw that someone's offering a $300,000 reward if you can find the law that says you have to pay taxes. I doubt they'd pay it anyways.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7403366410552837196

fact of the matter is the law is real. the 16th amendment says the government has the right to tax you. Also do you have any evidence we can see to support your theory besides some from google video.

 

[Guest]

that guy in the video is the same nut who did the RFID video that was FULL of bull shit.

 

[PazVerdeRadical]

I got my passport from the post office back in 05 and from what I can remember it was like 65$ for the passport and another 40$ to have it expedited but my memory is hazy so it could have been more.

but i thought u had said u had one of the new passports with the chip? the ones with the chip are supposed to be issued since january 07. so if you got yours 2 years ago, it should be different than zamalito's.

regarding tax law, well, i've been re-searching and there seems to be a confusion surrounding the whole issue, because the state as well as tax protesters all make good points; however, in my opinion, whether you should pay taxes or not does not justify all the corrupt actions of the irs, moreover, the way 'income' is defined by the law gives raise to such a broad interpretation that the goverment could legally and technically take your money away.

the best anti-tax argument i saw was that if the people's tax money goes into development of weapons of mass destruction, this would put tax payers in violation of human rights now that's a spoonfull hard to pass, but how true it is.

the tax protesters protest the law hedonism bot posted because they say it was passed for the benefit of the elites that monopolize the capital; it is hard to deny that fact for sure... i bet no one would have problems paying taxes otherwise.

peace

 

[Guest]

I never said I had one of them RFID chip passports just a regular non chiped one, but maybe thats why mine was less money.

 

[PazVerdeRadical]

excuse the misunderstanding hedonism bot, i just assumed so because you had said you got your passport recently.
paz

 

[Ganico]

and they probably have gps dust milecules they can put on yer food

HAHAHAHA!
Yeah, they probably do for real.

 

[zamalito]

Actually they did issue the chipped ones to government employees. Is there something you're not telling us hedonism bot?, lol (I hope you know I'm just kidding. I'd never suggest anything like that). Anyways the link I posted wasn't a source of evidence, robocop. I thought you guys would get a kick out of the guy who's saying hell give you 300 grand that's mentioned on that page. What did that guy have to say about the rfid chips? Does your passport have the patriotic imagery on the blank pages for stamps and visas?

Anyways like paz said there are several arguments regarding the 16th ammendment. One interpretation (I'm not saying its the only one or the most correct) of the 16th ammendment any taxes exercised simply for acquiring money must be applied evenly. Since it isn't applied evenly it is not part of the 16th ammendment.


Here's what I believe. Article one of the constitution states that the government can only issue gold and silver as lawful currency. It is for this reason that they created the private corporations of the irs and federal reserve. Nothing says that a private corporation can't print their own currency. So in a way our currency isn't any different than tokens at a video arcade (forgive me if this reference is dated I may be a bit out of touch). Stock in the federal reserve isn't traded publicly. The stock certificates have been passed down with inheritances since they were first created. As you may assume owning a controlling share of a federal reserve bank is a very powerful position which has basically created royal families with regards to financial control of this country. The thing is both the federal reserve and irs assume private corp status when it suits them legally and they asume governmental branch status when it suits them legally. Similar to how scientology is a religion when it comes to not paying taxes but their religious texts are fiction when it comes to copyrighting the information so noone can quote their books to show how stupid and nonsensical they are. Anyways since our money isn't lawful currency according to our own constitution it has no real value other than the paper it is printed on in the same way a subway token has no real value and so you shouldn't have to pay taxes on something that has no value.

I have always had deep admiration for ezra pound and consider him the only poet of the 20th century. I must admit that until today he was really my main source on the topic so my info was biased.

 

[Ganico]

Actually, nobody pays income tax where I live on their salaries or wages. We pay hella sales tax though, so it evens out I think.

 

[genkisan]

Nazi pigfuckers and their RFID-control devices shouls all have their testes fed to a pack of rabid wombats with splintered teeth.

 

[Guest]

ok zamalito if these families supposedly control the 12 federal reserve branches then why are the heads of these branches appointed by federal authority? would you mind giving us a list of the families who supposedly own these banks? or explaining how any of your position makes sense considering the fact that the federal reserve board was created by an act of congress in 1913? also if it weren't illegal to not pay income taxes then people wouldn't get thrown in jail for failure to do so...

 

[zamalito]

First of all the reason people go to jail is because of the supreme courts interpretation of the 16th ammendment. The families that own the fed are the german Rothschilds, the english rothschilds, the Rockefellers, the Goldmans, the sachs, the kuhn, loeb, warburg, lazard's, israel moses seif, and the lehman's.

The FED isn't a branch of the government but a central bank. There have been three central banks in our america's history. What they all had in common is a practice referred to as fractional banking. Which is a way of making money out of nothing. This process started before there were banks. Goldsmiths would issue certificates representing the gold they had in store allowing people to do business without carrying around the actual gold. At that time the certificates could always be redeemed for the actual gold they represented. The goldsmiths eventually noticed that a very small portion of what they had would actually move in and out of their stores. So they invented a practice where they'd issue certificates for gold and silver they didn't have allowing them to do business on a larger level than they actually had resources for. The crazy thing about this is that banks that work on this principle including the fed loan out money they don't have and charge you interest on it!

The first central bank of the united states was the BUS. It was bitterly debated in congress, existed for 20 years and exercised factional banking at a 10:1 ratio (10 lbs of gold on paper for every 1 lb they actually had). Over the 20 years of their existance the public felt they abused their power too much and their agreement was not renewed with the american public.

After the economic ruin caused by the war of 1812 the country needed to create a new central bank again which exercised fractional banking thus creating capital out of thin air to jump start the eceonomy. So the sbus was created in 1816. The sbus is criticized for causing an economic boom and then intentionally cutting off the supply of capital citing the inflation that they had created with their 10 to 1 fractional lending so they could repo the collateral that was used for the loans. On president Andrew jackson's platform when he was elected in 1828 was to shut down the sbus. He emptied out all of the nation's holdings from the sbus and cleared the national debt.

The country went without a national bank from 1836-1913. Aside from the destruction and econonic damage cause but the american civil war the country prospered quite well. Then in 1910 senator aldrich who headed the national finance met with members of the large european banks to come up with a new plan to get the wealthy families back in control of the national monetary system which involved creating a privately owned central bank. The federal reserve along with the irs was created in 1913. Despite what many think there was no federal income tax until 1913 it was considered to be a power not provided in the 16th ammendment. Most of congress was absent for christmas break when the Federal Reserve Act was passed (sound familiar, lol) which created the only for profit corp in american that doesn't have to pay taxes. The share holders of the federal reserve receive over 1 trillion dollars in profits every year tax that goes to a corporation which does not have to pay taxes. Of course the individuals have to pay taxes on their dividends like all profits from stocks but the dividends are larger because the corporation doesn't have to pay taxes on its earnings like every other for profit corporation.

 

[DimeBag65]

some very interesting stuff i havnt heard before, its amazing how slowly technology is being turned against us to keep track and watch us.

If you wanna watch something scary about being watch i believe the Video is call "BIG BROTHER" and its about air waves technology and microchips.

interesting when they keep track of all. Dime

 

[Guest]

I too worry about being framed for a crime i didnt commit. by all of the new GPS,RFI,etc.. but i wonder how well them tracking chips will work after i run 220 volts of juice through them hahahah or just toss them into the microwave for a few seconds.. nuff/nuff..

Cannabismavin,

 

[Guest]

First of all the reason people go to jail is because of the supreme courts interpretation of the 16th ammendment. The families that own the fed are the german Rothschilds, the english rothschilds, the Rockefellers, the Goldmans, the sachs, the kuhn, loeb, warburg, lazard's, israel moses seif, and the lehman's.

The FED isn't a branch of the government but a central bank.

yes well the supreme court decides what is legal and what isn't if you're going to be semantic about it...i'm glad you put that list of names out there so everyone can see that these sorts of conspiracy theories usually end up being some sort of anti-semitic, elders of the council of zion, bullshit...i never said the fed was a branch of government, but it is run by the government...any sorts of policy decisions are made by federal appointees...

 

[PazVerdeRadical]

...any sorts of policy decisions are made by federal appointees...

in theory, you are right, in praxis however, not so much.

paz.

 

[Guest]

i guess because the jews decide the federal appointments too, right?

 

[PazVerdeRadical]

i guess because the jews decide the federal appointments too, right?

nope, it has to do with the fact that the job of federal appointees when making policies is to benefit the economy of the u.s, and since the money that allows to do that is the largest monopolized capital of the world, federal appointees comply with whatever the groups who control the monopoly wish to do.

paz.