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The recent invention of cannabis botany is a scam

RequiredUsername

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Ty

if you’re talking last pic it’s Greek tea aka Ironwort aka mountain tea aka sideritis

Nightshade - tomatoes, peppers, eggplant, potatoes…. Mmmmm


Precisely - whips are just the industry standard
Good to know. Thanks! But my biology. When I eat nightshades, I really regret it.
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MROrganicGreenz

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People who can afford to invest in research are usually looking for a particular result, a lot of it doesn’t make sense.
Why the Lebanese population Raphael Mechoulam was studying when he discovered cbd was a mix of type 1 2 and 3 plants, that’s the sort of variety one would expect from f3, not p1.
Why has no plant that tests pure landrace yet been found to contain any cbd at all?
It’s all bollocks, believe half what you see and nothing you hear these days, we’ve been lied to about so many things, cognitive dissonance blinds us from the truth.
What publication are you refering to?
 

Orange's Greenhouse

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15 years ago everyone knew weed as an unparalleled medicinal herb that would easily cripple the pharmaceutical empire.
Yea right. Or it is just not that interesting as a medicine? Of course you can't patent THC but you can change it a bit, improve some properties and patent that. That's how most drugs are made.

In the 80s there was loads of interest in cannabinoids as drugs. Thousands of compounds were made but not that much useful came of it. The only drug that made it to market was an appetite suppressant (think anti-munchies). It worked, but not as much as expected and was later withdrawn for causing suicides. The same story as every other weight loss drug before it.
The last 10-20 years the drugs had a resurgence as 'spice' type synthetic cannabinoids. All substances were invented by big pharma and the number that was available illustrates how much research took place. Every year 10-20 'new' cannabinoids are introduced to replace what has been criminalized.

In the world of serious disease cannabinoids have no application. That is where our medicine has proven itself and is useful.
When it comes to improving quality of life, relaxing or an aphrodisiac weed has its place. But that is nothing that can be measured in a clinical study and scrutinized to the degree that drugs are.
 

H e d g e

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Yea right. Or it is just not that interesting as a medicine? Of course you can't patent THC but you can change it a bit, improve some properties and patent that. That's how most drugs are made.

In the 80s there was loads of interest in cannabinoids as drugs. Thousands of compounds were made but not that much useful came of it. The only drug that made it to market was an appetite suppressant (think anti-munchies). It worked, but not as much as expected and was later withdrawn for causing suicides. The same story as every other weight loss drug before it.
The last 10-20 years the drugs had a resurgence as 'spice' type synthetic cannabinoids. All substances were invented by big pharma and the number that was available illustrates how much research took place. Every year 10-20 'new' cannabinoids are introduced to replace what has been criminalized.

In the world of serious disease cannabinoids have no application. That is where our medicine has proven itself and is useful.
When it comes to improving quality of life, relaxing or an aphrodisiac weed has its place. But that is nothing that can be measured in a clinical study and scrutinized to the degree that drugs are.
 

MROrganicGreenz

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You want to elaborate on that or is it my responsibility to watch a 20 minute video that starts with "microwave radiation outside in the open"?
That is either some conspiracy myth or talking about sun light.
Its a woman that gave her near dead son cannabis oil and he healed. Now she is and advocate for cannabis and cbd. Plot twist, she now also sells overpriced cbd oil
 

RequiredUsername

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What you mean, who can invest in research?? Can only speak for europe / germany, but most of universitary research is independend, otherwise its marked as "conflict of interest". Where does all the scepticism against science come from? Is it still an aftermath from corona? I am really shocked on how amateurs discredit scientists who put a life effort into science. Yeah, there is bad science, bad methodology and results arent absolute facts and can be obsolete in 5 years, but that statement is utter bs, sorry
This is why. The video is getting really hard to find....
 

RequiredUsername

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So its big coroporate? Sorry im not gonna watch 45 Minutes documentation;)
Not all questions can be answered monosyllabic. But that's beside the point. If you want truth, it has to be your experience. Not something borrowed, second hand. In the current situation of the post modern world, due to technological advances used by vested interests, we can not trust a single thing we see, read, or hear, and are bombarded by falsehoods by the exploiters.

My "research" in the Himalayas is for my personal journal. I'm just an ordinary man. I spent my money to put sandals on the ground. It's as simple as that. If I want to know something I find out. I am a man of truth. Not a believer. There is still much to be discovered. It just depends on where you put your energy. Belief in publications? 🤦🏻‍♂️ Or truth and evidence you can hold in your hand. Which one is more science-like to you?
 
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MROrganicGreenz

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Not all questions can be answered monosyllabic. But that's beside the point. If you want truth, it has to be your experience. Not something borrowed, second hand. In the current situation of the post modern world, due to technological advances used by vested interests, we can not trust a single thing we see, read, or hear, and are bombarded by falsehoods by the exploiters.

My "research" in the Himalayas is for my personal journal. I'm just an ordinary man. I spent my money to put sandals on the ground. It's as simple as that. If I want to know something I find out. I am a man of truth. Not a believer. There is still much to be discovered. It just depends on where you put your energy. Belief in publications? 🤦🏻‍♂️ Or truth and evidence you can hold in your hand. Which one is more science-like to you?
Strongly disagree. Your experiences are your truth, mine are my subjective truth. Nothing reliable. One of us could be crazy. Even both.

I'd rather believe in valid data and statisticd than someone what someone experienced. Even what i feel and felt doesnt have to be true or reproducible. I have the feeling, that you dont really understand scientific work in general. Paired with a big mistrust in everything and everyone.

If a doctor would say you have a small Tumor on my kidney and statistically best outcome would be taking this or that medicine, would you trust him or say: "not until I see and feel it!"?
 

MROrganicGreenz

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And yeah there is a lot of bad methodology and unreliable data out there. But thats what Meta studys are for and reviews. Or even check the methods and data by yourself. Noone says you have to trust everything. But you also dont have to test everything by yourself. Just saying
 

MROrganicGreenz

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We had big issues with that during covid. People not educated enough and deeply mistrusting everything. Or those jokers denying climate change ... Sounds a little like that as well
 

RequiredUsername

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Strongly disagree. Your experiences are your truth, mine are my subjective truth. Nothing reliable. One of us could be crazy. Even both.

I'd rather believe in valid data and statisticd than someone what someone experienced. Even what i feel and felt doesnt have to be true or reproducible. I have the feeling, that you dont really understand scientific work in general. Paired with a big mistrust in everything and everyone.

You totally missed the point. I'm not asking you to believe my truth, because that belief will carry doubt because belief is always in someone else, its nor your truth. Not your experience. Not your data (doubt). There is no place, 0, for beliefs in actual science. Science is based on doubt, questioning, evidence, fact.
 
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