The REAL Reason Medical Marijuana is having a hard time Federally

[medicalgreen]

I think there are a lot of people that deal that really don't want it legal! Then you have the people that have been lied to propaganda & never realize how wrong the bullshit is!

Yes, but those people that deal, have never really had a say in it, either way, until maybe Prop 19 tried to get passed. Even then, I believe it had more to do with the way it was written than the fact that people were afraid of their livelyhood. I don't think too many people like the laws the way they are and many would change them for a better alternative. As for the ones who have been lied to, they don't represent the folks keeping it illegal either, because they have never had a chance to vote on it.

In other words, I don't think the will of the people has affected the legalization situation, either way. It's all about the Drug Kingpins and the Global Drug Monopoly held by the British East India Co., now called Washington, DC.

 

[guest86120975]

The truth has been spoken.

 

[crazybear]

Yes, but those people that deal, have never really had a say in it, either way, until maybe Prop 19 tried to get passed. Even then, I believe it had more to do with the way it was written than the fact that people were afraid of their livelyhood. I don't think too many people like the laws the way they are and many would change them for a better alternative. As for the ones who have been lied to, they don't represent the folks keeping it illegal either, because they have never had a chance to vote on it.

In other words, I don't think the will of the people has affected the legalization situation, either way. It's all about the Drug Kingpins and the Global Drug Monopoly held by the British East India Co., now called Washington, DC.

I know for a fact, my one family member grows for profit, against legalization, because it would cut into his profits! He also thinks his clones are gold & his growing advice is gold, none of which he will share!!!!!!!

 

[medicalgreen]

I know for a fact, my one family member grows for profit, against legalization, because it would cut into his profits! He also thinks his clones are gold & his growing advice is gold, none of which he will share!!!!!!!

Good thing we can come here, then, huh?

The people for legalization far outweigh those against it, if you discount the ones in the government drug business, i.e. the police and courts.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

The people that make the money are the ones that lobby to keep hemp and mmj off the market.

Koch bros do lots of business in the wood and paper pulp industry. They won't simply lobby lawmakers against the dangers of the evil marihuana. They'll public interest the damn bumpkins with half truths (and less than).

Hell, they'll spawn the damn "Pulp Party" to get a bunch of idiots to raise hell against their best interests.

 

[joeuser]

The people that make the money are the ones that lobby to keep hemp and mmj off the market.

Koch bros do lots of business in the wood and paper pulp industry. They won't simply lobby lawmakers against the dangers of the evil marihuana. They'll public interest the damn bumpkins with half truths (and less than).

Hell, they'll spawn the damn "Pulp Party" to get a bunch of idiots to raise hell against their best interests.

That describes our "education system" and our media...full of lies and half truths! You're taught to sit quietly and not make any noise. To trust in "those in authority" to take care of everything. Just work and pay your bills...that's ALL they want us for.

 

[medicalgreen]

GW Pharma is a Rothschild owned and controlled company. What more evidence to people need to understand that this all goes back to old world power structures?

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

I think we're got some sincere folks that regard mj as a gateway drug. Many feel that mj smokers are lazy and less productive. Throw in the inevitable fact that black men will sexually seize wanton white women and it's the perfect trifecta.

It's unfortunate that a segment of mj smokers go on to use dope. But this doesn't demonstrate they wouldn't have done otherwise less mj. Add insult to injury when former mj smokers morph into reform antagonists.

Prior to and during prohibition, alcohol was propagandized as was mj. But alcohol enjoys a wider degree of acceptance, even though booze is often directly attributable to sex crimes.

We may have to reform the mindset of folks in fear of something they don't understand.

 

[medicalgreen]

I think we're got some sincere folks that regard mj as a gateway drug. Many feel that mj smokers are lazy and less productive. Throw in the inevitable fact that black men will sexually seize wanton white women and it's the perfect trifecta.

It's unfortunate that a segment of mj smokers go on to use dope. But this doesn't demonstrate they wouldn't have done otherwise less mj. Add insult to injury when former mj smokers morph into reform antagonists.

Prior to and during prohibition, alcohol was propagandized as was mj. But alcohol enjoys a wider degree of acceptance, even though booze is often directly attributable to sex crimes.

We may have to reform the mindset of folks in fear of something they don't understand.

Funny you should mention this, because i'm reading a book that proves beyond any doubt that alcohol prohibition had NOTHING whatsoever to do with drinking, and everything to do with Rockefeller controlled ALCOHOL FUEL. Rockefeller was making a killing off oil and the byproduct was gasoline. He was flushing it down the rivers and lakes. Then came up with a brilliant idea, to outlaw alcohol and push gasoline in internal combustion engines.

I had never heard of this before, but it reminds me of the Emperor Wears no Clothes and the info about Dupont and Anslinger.

The Book is called Alcohol Can be A Gas by David Blume.

Once again, prohibition was fueled by NWO interests for resources not to control human behavior.

 

[mmmoil]

makes you think a little, huh?

makes you think a little, huh?

Why are pill companies allowed to release new wonderful drugs that their own tests show WILL kill people?
They know there will be countless lawyers to file class action lawsuits that they stand a big chance of losing and it will cost a LOT of money.
Well... The money they make off the drug before the law suits hit will be many many times more than they will lose for killing people...

are they held accountable for their actions? FUCK NO


I see people arguing about voting for this person or that person but has that ever worked for us in past?

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Funny you should mention this, because i'm reading a book that proves beyond any doubt that alcohol prohibition had NOTHING whatsoever to do with drinking, and everything to do with Rockefeller controlled ALCOHOL FUEL.

I don't dispute the chance there were other reasons. But the feds propagandized the social consequences of booze.

The point I offer is that alcohol propaganda didn't quite warp our collective brain the way mj propaganda did.

Adults recalled the days before alcohol prohibition and many understood that responsible consumption isn't a fairy tale.

On the other hand, mj didn't have the wide-spread acceptance of booze prior to mj prohibition. Had we been big weed smokers in the 20s and 30s we might not have the evil weed mentality so bad today.




I do remember stories of petroleum discoveries in Pennsylvania. Petroleum competed with whale oil for lamps but the gas by-product had to be disposed, lol.

 

[medicalgreen]

I don't dispute the chance there were other reasons. But the feds propagandized the social consequences of booze.

The point I offer is that alcohol propaganda didn't quite warp our collective brain the way mj propaganda did.

Adults recalled the days before alcohol prohibition and many understood that responsible consumption isn't a fairy tale.

On the other hand, mj didn't have the wide-spread acceptance of booze prior to mj prohibition. Had we been big weed smokers in the 20s and 30s we might not have the evil weed mentality so bad today.

I do remember stories of petroleum discoveries in Pennsylvania. Petroleum competed with whale oil for lamps but the gas by-product had to be disposed, lol.

DiscoBiscuit,
Have you ever read the book, through, "the Emperor Wears No Clothes"?

If you have, you are probably already aware, no? The Ganja Walla Hashish Company sold hashish candy and even kids consumed it. It was the #1 candy in America for 50 years.

Cannabis was the second highest medicine in hundreds of prescribed medicine for 100 different medical illnesses for over 150 years in America. The AMA didn't even know it was cannabis they were going to outlaw when they went to outlaw Marijuana in 1937. By the time they protested, it was too late.

The Rockefellers were involved AT THAT TIME in patenting synthetic alternatives to natural medicines, and marketing them through pharmaceutical companies. They were also heavily involved in oil. Henry Fords car ran on alcohol fuel. All cars, in fact, ran on alcohol fuel, as did many engines powering many machines at the time.

It's important for people to realize this, because the entire oil industry bred gasoline and there was no use for it. Rockefeller directly got involved in prohibition and financed the Temperance movement, in order to CONTROL ALCOHOL FOR FUEL.

By the time prohibition ended, all the alcohol plants, at all the family farms had gone out of business!!!!

Rockefeller accomplished exactly what he wanted to. The Feds worked for Rockefeller, because his family went back to Skull and Bones, and the Eastern banking establishment, and what they say, in this country, is what becomes the might and power of the US, but it all goes back to the British East India Co., Washington, DC, and the Wall Street bankers and bank of England.

Cannabis had wide spread acceptance in America, prior to prohibition. So did alcohol. Both were eliminated for political and economic interest of a few wall street bankers, same as today.

Now what are we going to do about it?

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Thanks for the info medicalgreen, good read.

DuPont developed nylon around the time of prohibition. I think I read that Ford once grew his own hemp for tire and rubber cord before nylon eventually replaced it.

William Randolph Hearst first brought yellow journalism to hemp paper before he bought forest land for wood pulp.

I don't imagine that mj was relegated only to those the federal government chose to denigrate. And I'm not old enough to speak from personal experience. However, Al Capone and the world-class crime that alcohol prohibition engendered suggests that customers were drinking more illegal booze than smoking marihuana. I'm sure we had weed blazing in the speakeasys and beyond.

I just get the impression that mj propaganda was more effective and for a longer period of time than booze propaganda. IMO, booze was America's principal vice before and during prohibition. Folks like Joe Kennedy may have operated with impunity. I can't imagine the wealthy and powerful slumming in the joints. Wouldn't be a bit surprised if they continued booze consumption in the home and social functions.

My historic perspective isn't keen enough to bank on my suggestion. It's just a gut feeling that mj never really got the opportunity to become as generally accepted as alcohol. I like to imagine that if mj was more generally accepted pre-prohibition, we might have seen repeal not unlike alcohol prohibition repeal.

My late gramps was born in 1882. Far be it from me to suggest he was a barometer of public opinion. He was a teetotaler but said all the preachers indulged, lol. I think he was suggesting he wouldn't jeopardize his salvation, even though he [albeit belatedly] hated booze.

He didn't like the weed, serious moral implications and all that stuff. I'm thankful he never caught me blazing.

Thanks again for the info and perspective.