I just bought a CHHC-4 which recently superceded the CHHC-1. I have 8 Super Sun 2 reflectors, money well spent. I bought a couple of NextGen ballasts cause they had nifty looking fans and and cool blinking leds, sold them a week later. (Remember FutureBrite ballasts with fans made by C.A.P.) Galaxy and Quantum are both good investments but honestly I think only Lumatek has been around longer than 6 years. When I bought my first lumateks almost 6 years ago every other digi ballast available then is either gone now or relabeled cause the prototype was complete garbage. They probably wouldn't sell as many NextGens if they were marketed as second generation FutureBrites. C.A.P. Timers are solid though and I have a 4 and 8 light unit. I have a 65 pint dehumidifier but I want a Santa Fe and they now have a compact unit for about $800 you can check out on ebay. I am running EYE hortis on lumateks and galaxys without issue so far but this is not recommended. I can tell you that GE Lucaloxes will work for years with a digital ballast with no problems. If you really have money to burn I would look into Lazymans suggestion of the Coolerado. Watercooling looks neato but I think a big heat exchanger with a carbon filter that scrubbed,cooled, and continuously exchanged the air in the room would be more practical.Finally if you have 2 rooms with the exact same dimensions a flip flop is ideal. You can setup one room with a 40 amp circuit and 4-10 ballasts then flip that right over instead of another 40 amp circuit and 4-10 more ballasts. Or you can stagger them like I do, that way a 6 inch vortex will cool 8 hoods cause only 4 lights are on at any given time.
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Grow Room :Sealed (control over Heat,Rh,Co2)
Automation :Growtronix room Control(HeatExchanger
,Light,Dehu,Water pump,Chiller,Door Lock,Room and
Water temp,Fan,Sulfur burner,etc.)
Grow medium :UCC (under current culture)
Lighting :Quantum ballast and Ushio bulb (go bare bulb+++)
Electric panel :100 amp
Pump :Flotec
Co2 Burner :Hydro Inovation (Water Cooled)
Building Mat. :2*3 frame rockwool insulation,Sonopan(sound ins.)
2 layer of dry wall (sound and fire),White ceramic
(fire proof)and easy to clean
P.S.Acces to free cold water is a must (for cooling device Heat Exchanger,Co2 burner,water 'temp stainless steel coil in water')
So a growroom like mine
Automation :Growtronix room Control(HeatExchanger
,Light,Dehu,Water pump,Chiller,Door Lock,Room and
Water temp,Fan,Sulfur burner,etc.)
Grow medium :UCC (under current culture)
Lighting :Quantum ballast and Ushio bulb (go bare bulb+++)
Electric panel :100 amp
Pump :Flotec
Co2 Burner :Hydro Inovation (Water Cooled)
Building Mat. :2*3 frame rockwool insulation,Sonopan(sound ins.)
2 layer of dry wall (sound and fire),White ceramic
(fire proof)and easy to clean
P.S.Acces to free cold water is a must (for cooling device Heat Exchanger,Co2 burner,water 'temp stainless steel coil in water')
So a growroom like mine
i know this isnt what you asked... but if i inherited that kind of $, i'd get into real estate and keep it clean. there are lots of good deals out there nowadays
ok, so now that ive said that, ive always thought those omega gardens things were cool... although i have no experience with them whatsoever.
EDIT: Maybe this isnt the best idea b/c of the amount of plants you would have. maybe growing a couple big plants would be better than lots of clones
good luck
ok, so now that ive said that, ive always thought those omega gardens things were cool... although i have no experience with them whatsoever.
EDIT: Maybe this isnt the best idea b/c of the amount of plants you would have. maybe growing a couple big plants would be better than lots of clones
good luck
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GreenShadows
Member
Water chiller inspiration
Water chiller inspiration
Here's some inspiration for ya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0uRrMvfucY&feature=PlayList&p=19F7AADAF7DA901F&playnext_from=PL&index=0
Water chiller inspiration
Here's some inspiration for ya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0uRrMvfucY&feature=PlayList&p=19F7AADAF7DA901F&playnext_from=PL&index=0
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Do yourself a favor and stay away from all Hyrdo Innovation products. They're poorly made and they they dont stand behind their product.
Most of it is made in china junk.
Most of it is made in china junk.
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DonkDBZ
Skip the Veg Room and do 2- 5k MPB rooms
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LolaGal
This was meant to be fun! A Design the Perfect grow room, money be damned
This was meant to be fun! A Design the Perfect grow room, money be damned
See ^ statements like this are just stupid. READ the POST, dumbass.
IT SAID IN THE FIRST POST: PRETEND I have money to burn.
I only wanted to have some fun designing a perfect space, call it window shopping if u must.
Instead I am getting posts telling me not to spend my money like this or go burn my money.
Not funny... just stupid post Burn money, only a fool would burn money. I ain't a fool.
I don't even know what that stands for ?? M...P... Buckets? tell me more.
see, now this is a post that is worth reading. Donk's... see I am learning something here....
take notes UE4A... take notes, u will learn something.
This was meant to be fun! A Design the Perfect grow room, money be damned
See ^ statements like this are just stupid. READ the POST, dumbass.
IT SAID IN THE FIRST POST: PRETEND I have money to burn.
I only wanted to have some fun designing a perfect space, call it window shopping if u must.
Instead I am getting posts telling me not to spend my money like this or go burn my money.
Not funny... just stupid post Burn money, only a fool would burn money. I ain't a fool.
I don't even know what that stands for ?? M...P... Buckets? tell me more.
see, now this is a post that is worth reading. Donk's... see I am learning something here....
take notes UE4A... take notes, u will learn something.
U4EA
Member
IT SAID IN THE TWENTY-SIXTH POST: IF you have money to burn.
I am getting very sleepy...
I will take notes, I will learn something...
M.P.B. = Momma & Poppa Bear
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Cheeb
If I had a long term spot I'd spend my money in the physical room construction - heavily insulated and sound proof. Hidden would be a plus. Other then that...
Hang bulbs bare - alotta air conditioning - and a simple method of cultivation such as ebb and flow or coco pots.
Everything else is just a waste of time and money.
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Money to burn? - I'd bury it.
Hang bulbs bare - alotta air conditioning - and a simple method of cultivation such as ebb and flow or coco pots.
Everything else is just a waste of time and money.
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Money to burn? - I'd bury it.
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LolaGal
much better... much better.
[Kill John Lennon... Kill John Lennon....]{a little South Park joke}
Now I said money to burn, I just meant that I did not want to propose a budget. I did not want to limit my advice I received.
I really want to know how to set up the highest tech set up I can find on the market, and who sells it.
I have had lots of successful grows, indoor and outdoor, mostly in soil, one in hydro a while back. I consider myself to be a master gardener who can grow pot with 2 sticks, some bark and a bean.
But I am TIRED of boring cheap cheap cheap. I have that already.
I want to find out the best stuff out there on the market. I want to LOOK at all of it, and then Make up my mind, what I want to put in there.
Thanks for all the help. I ain't a newbie, look at my albums. I grew all that weed with Miracle Grow soil and some nute samples.
If I can grow such killer weed with inferior tools, what will my weed look like when I get some good tools to use?
I don't want to limit myself. I eventually will be getting hydro gear, water cooled lights, C02 generators, fan systems, controllers, etc.
I don't want to SELL no weed to get my money back either. I am small time, my OWN use only. I make a few beans to send into the BAY for freebies.
Now, I hope this is explanation enuf. For all. $$ to burn means, don't limit your advice to a budget of any kind.... OK?
U4EA
Member
No budget concerns?
Hire the best building contractor to build you a secured Internet data center, or buy an existing high-end telecommunications equipment building. They will make nearly the best grow rooms you can imagine, and it will be more than enough capacity to power and cool as many lights as you can throw in there, pretty much out of the box. And they won't ever suspect you're growing weed. Most of these types of buildings don't have windows in the design/blueprint, and have enough battery & generator power to self-sustain any reasonable sized commercial grow (easily 100+ lights, if not 1000+, in a medium-sized IDC).
Hire the best building contractor to build you a secured Internet data center, or buy an existing high-end telecommunications equipment building. They will make nearly the best grow rooms you can imagine, and it will be more than enough capacity to power and cool as many lights as you can throw in there, pretty much out of the box. And they won't ever suspect you're growing weed. Most of these types of buildings don't have windows in the design/blueprint, and have enough battery & generator power to self-sustain any reasonable sized commercial grow (easily 100+ lights, if not 1000+, in a medium-sized IDC).
U4EA
Member
Here's one of Google's data centers:
http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2009-04-08-n39.html
Only 10MW capacity (that's 10,000,000w).
http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2009-04-08-n39.html
Only 10MW capacity (that's 10,000,000w).
U4EA
Member
10 interesting data centers tours on video:
http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarg...-most-interesting-data-center-tours-on-video/
http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarg...-most-interesting-data-center-tours-on-video/
bs0
Active member
Hmm... I'll assume that you don't have a dedicated mother/clone room..
If I started over right now...
Room 1: Mothers, clones, veg.
3 vert 1k mh watercooled w/ chiller on same res as ..
30 pot ebb and grow system
4 for mothers 26 for veg
1 cloner machine
1 t5 light system of some sort.
1 ac/dehuey/heater
1 12" vortex w/ appropriate carbon filter (also cools lights via watercooling system) set to recirc the room
1 watercooled co2 generator set run to waste off tap and plumbed natural gas to run without ever needing to change a cannister
1 supercontroller of any sort, they are all pretty great.
1 auto-topoff valve w/ nutrient doser
Room 2:
Repeat controller/topoff/doser/co2 gen/ac/ebb and gro system/ add one extra 12" vortex setup w/ carbon filter
xx pot ebb and grow system and chiller to suit strains
5-6 vert 1k hps watercooled.
Run that setup and just grow TREES.
And you would have room to move around your plants too. The system would be very self-sufficient and you would be able to go away for days even weeks. only detriment would be rotating plants every day or two. Would easily run $10k. You could stagger crops easily and grow multiple strains easily.
U4EA
Member
Expedient's data centers... this Cleveland one only has 450 tons (5,400,000 BTU) of cooling capacity, pfffft.
http://www.expedient.com/products/cleveland-video-neo-151.php
Only dual 4,000A feeds and multi-megawatt generator farms.
http://www.expedient.com/products/cleveland-video-neo-151.php
Only dual 4,000A feeds and multi-megawatt generator farms.
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Guest 88950
AC = http://www.coolerado.com/
Insulation = http://www.aerogel.com/
U4AE, an IDC would be a good cover for a suitable grow bldg
Insulation = http://www.aerogel.com/
U4AE, an IDC would be a good cover for a suitable grow bldg
U4EA
Member
That's U4EA. Get it right.
MPSP Lighting is pretty state of the art tec, Sulpher Plasma Lighting is supposed to be the closest thing to Sunlight in existense, as far as i know. Bloody Expensive, but look promising. Twice the Output at half the Heat, things like that always interest me. Your talking anything from £800.00(ive seen them at this price) - £2000.00 per unit, depending on size! Blows anything on the market out of the water imo! Worth a look & they will take half your budget, Lamps dont require changing for many years. Add these to your high tec set up Lola! & best of Luck!
