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OleReynard

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SubGirl said:
When I put mine out too early, they go into flower because of the shorter days then they reveg. The only way I have been able to prevent this is either start them as seeds outside as soon as it’s warm enough or wait till the days are longer before putting clones out.
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I guess I never worried about when I was out there doing it.
They'd be ready to go Mothers day was a good judge usually no hard frost after that day. So generally we were all in the ground then. Never ran into any revegging.
Up here totally different story we've had snow on the ground Mother's day up here.
 
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Drippy Sally said:
It took a second to intake information. Suffice it to say the hand gun and the group wielding it were doing some police work to some shorty lawn maintenance people, even though they were not police. It was awful. I was gonna get my Desert Eagle and correct the entire situation so I made a couple of steps to the door walking right past the fat bastard with the 9mm. I grabbed it and I do not know why I decided that was a good idea. The men were asked to leave the store, the shortys were encouraged to purchase their shit, and I walked with fat bastard to my vehicle to get my Eagle so I could safely return his gun. It was fucking dumb, dumb, dumb.
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@Drippy Sally -- No it wasn't. You did right. End of message.
 
Travis Kelcee

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SubGirl said:
When I put mine out too early, they go into flower because of the shorter days then they reveg. The only way I have been able to prevent this is either start them as seeds outside as soon as it’s warm enough or wait till the days are longer before putting clones out.
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June 20th is longest day of the year.

Portland Or will see 15 hrs and 41 mins of sun

Tampa Fl will see 13 hrs and 55 mins of sun

So the farther south you are the shorter the longest day.

I'm going to play Johnny Appleseed this year with a fat sack of unknown homemade seeds. I figure the deer will get most of them but maybe one will survive.
 
BrassNwood

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Goldhedge said:
'Morning all!

Anyone try Adaptogens?

GROK: What are Adaptogens?
The idea of adaptogens—substances that help the body resist stress and maintain balance—originates in traditional herbal medicine systems, like Ayurveda (India) and Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM), which date back thousands of years. Herbs like ashwagandha (used in Ayurveda for over 3,000 years) and ginseng (documented in TCM since at least 100 CE) were prized for their ability to boost resilience and vitality, though they weren’t called "adaptogens" back then.

The term "adaptogen" was coined in 1947 by Soviet toxicologist Nikolai Lazarev. He was studying how certain plants could improve the body’s nonspecific resistance to stress. Later, in the 1950s and 1960s, Soviet scientists like Israel Brekhman and others formalized the concept, focusing on herbs like Rhodiola rosea and Eleutherococcus senticosus (Siberian ginseng). Their research was driven by Cold War-era goals to enhance soldiers' and workers' performance under stress, often in harsh conditions. They defined adaptogens by three criteria: they must be nontoxic, increase resistance to a broad range of stressors, and help normalize bodily functions.

In the West, adaptogens stayed under the radar until the late 20th century. They started gaining traction in the 1980s and 1990s as interest in natural medicine grew, spurred by books, alternative health movements, and early studies. But the real explosion happened in the 2010s. Google Trends shows searches for "adaptogens" spiking around 2016–2017, aligning with the wellness boom, Instagram-worthy superfood lattes (think matcha with ashwagandha), and brands marketing them as antidotes to modern burnout. Companies like Moon Juice and Gwyneth Paltrow’s Goop helped turn adaptogens into a trendy buzzword, with sales of adaptogenic supplements reportedly jumping 20% annually by the late 2010s.

So, while adaptogens as a concept have ancient origins, they "became a thing" in the modern sense—scientifically named in 1947 and culturally mainstream by the mid-2010s. Today, on March 12, 2025, they’re a staple in health stores, with ongoing debates about how much of their hype is backed by solid evidence versus clever marketing.

What is a good Adaptogen to take?
Choosing a "good" adaptogen depends on what you’re aiming for—stress relief, energy, focus, or something else—since different adaptogens have unique effects. Based on traditional use, scientific research, and current popularity as of March 12, 2025, here’s a breakdown of one standout option, plus a few others worth considering.

Ashwagandha is often recommended as a top pick. It’s a shrub root (Withania somnifera) from Ayurveda, used for over 3,000 years, and it’s one of the most studied adaptogens. It’s known for reducing stress and anxiety by lowering cortisol levels—studies, like one from 2019 in Medicine, showed a 30% cortisol drop in stressed adults after 60 days of 240 mg daily. It also helps with sleep (people report better quality at 300–600 mg) and might boost energy or stamina over time. It’s widely available in capsules, powders, or tinctures, and it’s generally well-tolerated, though some folks get drowsy or experience mild stomach upset. Start with 300 mg daily and adjust based on how you feel.
If ashwagandha isn’t your vibe, here are other solid options:
  • Rhodiola Rosea: Great for mental fatigue and focus. Soviet research from the ‘60s and modern studies (e.g., 2017 in Phytomedicine) suggest 200–400 mg daily can lift mood and fight burnout. It’s more stimulating than ashwagandha, so morning doses work best.
  • Holy Basil (Tulsi): Calming and anti-inflammatory. Used in Ayurveda, it’s less studied but shows promise for stress relief at 500–1,200 mg daily. Teas are popular and gentle.
  • Eleuthero (Siberian Ginseng): Boosts endurance and immunity. Research is mixed, but 300–800 mg daily is traditional for resilience against physical stress.
No adaptogen is a magic bullet—effects build over weeks, not hours, and the science is still catching up to the hype. Check with a doctor if you’re on meds (especially for thyroid, blood pressure, or mood), as interactions can happen (e.g., ashwagandha might amplify sedatives). Quality matters too—look for third-party tested brands, since the supplement market can be sketchy.

What’s your main goal with taking one? That could narrow it down further.

Disclaimer: Grok is not a doctor; please consult one. Don't share information that can identify you.
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Cannabis has been mine for all of my adult life. It was a bit of a standing joke when I'd be the only one not sick as a dog when the whole world around me was. We'd all laugh and say it's because Brass is so stoned 24-7. Now I'm not finding it so funny.

Boo said:
While I’ve got to college degrees I’m much more comfortable with the wrench in my hand. I’ve always been mechanically inclined and nothing has changed other than the fact that I can’t stand up when I get off the creeper. It’s sad, but I have to roll on my belly and then get up on my hands and knees. When I use the lift, my neck is craned backwards and that doesn’t work either…
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Sold all but one of the collection when my surgical adhesions made even bending into the engine bay verboten.

Travis Kelcee said:
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500 pounds of chrome grill and bumper alone.

SubGirl said:
When I put mine out too early, they go into flower because of the shorter days then they reveg. The only way I have been able to prevent this is either start them as seeds outside as soon as it’s warm enough or wait till the days are longer before putting clones out.
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Clones will flower at the drop of a hat. It's that old 14.5 light trigger to flower thing. At 15 hours of day they veg. At 14-hour days they flower. Clones must be maintained on the light hours they grew up on to time match to outside. 15-9 is as low as possible and many find 16-8 to work as well. This is good enough for a late May to early June set out.

Here at latitude 33 only the 30 days before and following the summer solstice have long enough days to hold cannabis in veg. By August 1st the days have shortened enough to trip flower, and the plants show visible signs 2 weeks later

You can extend the day hours on a clone with no repercussions but shortening their day will send them into flower sure as shit.

I long ago gave up on all that crap and light them suckers up 24-0 until I'm ready to flower them. Far less trouble. Remember it's warm here year-round and I can grow outside off season with just a bit of light to hold them in veg.
 
SubGirl

SubGirl

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Putembk said:
Interesting. Nobody has ever said anything. I have never grown outside so that is a non issue for me. They must have it figured out …..like a Red Rubber Ball they come bouncing back to me every year.
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My peeps get revegging but they don’t even know it. Just think their weed is ”nice and bushy”. It grows tho. And they smoke it. The beach always has what I’m growing all summer. Last year and the year before @bigsur51 TK weed covered the beach. They are happy too and send me pics. I think they smoke the cats too 🤪. Some have asked for my opinion but I can tell they stop listening after any effort on their part is involved…
 
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