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Gray Wolf

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I picked tomatos,watermelons,cantaloupe, cukes,citrus growing up.
I don't buy the Americans won't do it line.......should be Americans won't do it for that pay.
Same with construction we have plenty of labor just don't have anyone willing to pay for it.
Add cotton to that list, as well as hauling hay for me growing up, but we had apples, peaches, and cherries, and no citrus.

That was for even less pay but I was thrilled for the opportunity.
 

cola

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I agree wholeheartedly with what you are saying. But there is a duality to that.
Our greedy Uniparty Coroporations are unwilling to give up their profit margin.
So, how else can food be brought to the table, that Middle Class can afford?
Therein lies the rub. And the obvious dilemma. Everyone has a price. Right?
Corporations are makng this happen. And supporting illegal migrant workers.
Everyone looks the other way. Blaming someone else. But they're creating it.
They do it in the consruction industry. And in the farm industry too. Equally so.
I met a guy in post graduate school that worked for CBP for several years before getting his JD.
He worked along the border in AZ, and his duty station was a few miles inside. Was nothing there.
He told me when they ran across people the first thing that they asked them after their paperwork,
was: "Where are you going?". He told me that each and every person had a definitive destination,
none of them were just coming to the US without knowing where they were going, and without the
assurances of a job. Corporations are creating the demand for people to come here. If they did not,
these folks would not come. They know they will be hired illegally, and it's no big deal. So they come.
:oops:

Many people do not know, that prompted by the Great Depression, crossing the border without papers,
or not at an official checkpoint, became illegal for the first time. Prior to this people just came and went:

 

Travis Kelcee

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I thought that he said the kennel was up in Canada or maybe that’s what I saw when I researched it. Hell I can make it up to your backyard and easy 18 hours… I used to make that trip twice a year when mom was alive… I actually found the state trooper up there that wasn’t the total asshole…😂
Straight up I-75 to Detroit then I-94 to the Blue Water bridge in to Canada, and then 45 minutes to Oil Springs, ON
 

Gray Wolf

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Years ago my wife and I wanted to move to ustralia and we contacted customs and they said we needed to have a sponser who had no criminal record and would be held accountable for our lodgings and food,in demand skills ,and a guaranteed job,and 200k cash to be left in an Aus bank for 2 years.
I seem to remember in the hoary days of yore, when they would pay you $10K to move to Australia, Am I remembering wrong?
 

Travis Kelcee

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I met a guy in post graduate school that worked for CBP for several years before getting his JD.
He worked along the border in AZ, and his duty station was a few miles inside. Was nothing there.
He told me when they ran across people the first thing that they asked them after their paperwork,
was: "Where are you going?". He told me that each and every person had a definitive destination,
none of them were just coming to the US without knowing where they were going, and without the
assurances of a job. Corporations are creating the demand for people to come here. If they did not,
these folks would not come. They know they will be hired illegally, and it's no big deal. So they come.
:oops:

Many people do not know, that prompted by the Great Depression, crossing the border without papers,
or not at an official checkpoint, became illegal for the first time. Prior to this people just came and went:

I was assigned to Ft Chaffe, Ar in 1980 to provide security for the Cuban refugees Jimmy Carter allowed in, as a Military Policeman from the 977th MP Co

We had roughly 20k Cubans. Everyday I worked as either a perimeter guard or was inside on roving patrol.

I spoke with hundreds of these folks personally. 90% of them were released from prisons or mental institution's.

The last 4 years millions of people released from prisons and mental institution's from countries around the world have been pouring in.

They are not here for jobs and if they do have destination it was most likely provided by Catholic Charities.

The honest folks and children are exploited by corporations and traffickers. The criminals just become criminals here. Those are the ones being targeted.


Later that night Ku Klux Klan members carrying torches marched by the base with signs saying "Kill the Communist Criminals" while local armed vigilantes circled the base with pickup trucks.

That ^^^^^^ is complete bullshit and one of the reasons why Wikipedia can't ever be taken seriously.
 

Unca Walt

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sadly, no...the breeder and his wife got divorced and his wife is bitter and refuses to give me his contact info...he has kennels in both Greece and Norway...Dutch was purpose bred from a collaboration of the two...I'll not likely find another Dutch but Ivan is checking off all the boxes...neighbors comment on what a different dog he is since Dutch left us...he is extremely aware of his surroundings and doesn't lean in when he sees other animals...we have a herd of longhorns at the end of our walk, they always come running when the see Ivan...they stop about 15' from the fence and they eyeball each other...Dutch would bite them on the nose...he wasn't popular with the cows... :rolleyes:
Doggies and baybees. I am a sucker for these:

 
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