The Original O'l Farts Club.

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Do I infer that you want a caravan to live in instead of an apartment and spend your time traveling?

I was born in a caravan - and my Mum always kept one down on the coast - a simple 3 berth - fixed mobile home - on its own lot - with all mod-cons - close by the sea - low maintenance - and much cheaper than bricks and mortar - it'll do me and the Mrs - so long as she can find some work close by - but in 5 years time or so - we shall see - where we are all at - and if that option works -

 

[Countryboy]

Just glad our mortgages are paid off and all we have to deal with is maintenance and the usuary taxes and utilities.

Bro, I paid $77K for this place. Now the county thinks it's worth 3 times that, hence my 'relatively' HUGE property tax bill

 

[Countryboy]

I was born in a caravan - and my Mum always kept one down on the coast - a simple 3 berth - fixed mobile home - on its own lot - with all mod-cons - close by the sea - low maintenance - and much cheaper than bricks and mortar - it'll do me and the Mrs - so long as she can find some work close by - but in 5 years time or so - we shall see - where we are all at - and if that option works -

Do forget my offer, bro. A story to tell, money to be made...

 

[Dime]

I was born in a caravan - and my Mum always kept one down on the coast - a simple 3 berth - fixed mobile home - on its own lot - with all mod-cons - close by the sea - low maintenance - and much cheaper than bricks and mortar - it'll do me and the Mrs - so long as she can find some work close by - but in 5 years time or so - we shall see - where we are all at - and if that option works -

 

[Travis Kelcee]

$22.4K this year for us, but that includes our house and the duplexes.

We moved out of NJ due to the stupid high property taxes.

Averaged a 3.2% increase every year for the 30 years we lived there.

Now we pay $1200 a year.

 

[Dime]

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[Dime]

Bro, I paid $77K for this place. Now the county thinks it's worth 3 times that, hence my 'relatively' HUGE property tax bill

My house tax rate is 8% of the value for residential and farmland is $265 an acre,our farmland costs $23000 an acre for clay.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

We moved out of NJ due to the stupid high property taxes.

Averaged a 3.2% increase every year for the 30 years we lived there.

Now we pay $1200 a year.

Property taxes here are called Council Tax - and for a small 2 bed apartment we have to shell out around £2200 every year - in Greater London - and it goes up every year - then another £1300 for block maintenance charges every year - that increases too - on top of any mortgage payments - the cheapest bill is usually the water bill - which is around £350 per year - for waste and potable water - electricity costs around 27pence (about 35US cents) per kilowatt hour - - we don't have gas - and never have to buy petrol or diesel - since we don't have a motor vehicle -

 

[D. B. Doober]

Property taxes here are called Council Tax - and for a small 2 bed apartment we have to shell out around £2200 every year - in Greater London - and it goes up every year - then another £1300 for block maintenance charges every year - that increases too - on top of any mortgage payments - the cheapest bill is usually the water bill - which is around £350 per year - for waste and potable water - electricity costs around 27pence (about 35US cents) per kilowatt hour - - we don't have gas - and never have to buy petrol or diesel - since we don't have a motor vehicle -

Yeah I have electric heat too. But isn't the hot water from gas? There's a flame...

 

[Goldhedge]

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[Gray Wolf]

I was born in a caravan - and my Mum always kept one down on the coast - a simple 3 berth - fixed mobile home - on its own lot - with all mod-cons - close by the sea - low maintenance - and much cheaper than bricks and mortar - it'll do me and the Mrs - so long as she can find some work close by - but in 5 years time or so - we shall see - where we are all at - and if that option works -

Good idea!

If travel is going to be limited, then an older higher mileage one would work and should be more attractively priced.

We had a Mini Winnie but it would have been too small to live in.

 

[Countryboy]

Property taxes here are called Council Tax - and for a small 2 bed apartment we have to shell out around £2200 every year - in Greater London - and it goes up every year - then another £1300 for block maintenance charges every year - that increases too - on top of any mortgage payments - the cheapest bill is usually the water bill - which is around £350 per year - for waste and potable water - electricity costs around 27pence (about 35US cents) per kilowatt hour - - we don't have gas - and never have to buy petrol or diesel - since we don't have a motor vehicle -

Don't ya LOVE socialism

I couldn't tell ya what elect costs, but we're on emergency heat and the meter is spinning fast.
A 'high' water bill is $38 in the summer when 'we' are watering the lawn.

 

[Countryboy]

 

[bigsur51]

Lowes sells 100 lbs tanks for $225. They hold 23. 6 gallons. I have 2 and a couple propane delivery companies on speed dial.

thanks for the heads up at low down lowes

we are also pricing one of those whole house 100 gal tanks , don’t know if those are leased from the propane store or bought

but yeah , propane stove , refrigerator , and heater works for us

everything else can run off the generator

how much are ya all paying for the propane and do they charge for delivery?

we have propane for $2.70 a gal

 

[oldmaninbc]

Did you ever churn butter in a fruit jar?

When I worked at the flour mill historic site we made butter in a few different ways including in a jar with paddles.
Nothing holds memories as much as it does growing up with my grandparents. With grandma always telling me to have the right movement with the plunger in the turn, and you better listen when grandma talked.

It's a new day GW, I wonder what's on the menu of life today?

 

[Travis Kelcee]

Yeah I have electric heat too. But isn't the hot water from gas? There's a flame...

I have electric heat and propane heat backup.

Mini Splits are awesome and the local utility company rebates paid for 1 of them. Plus a federal tax write off for the other. With rebates, tax write offs and yearly heating costs vs. propane heat they will pay for themselves within 4 years. Our heating season up here in the mountains runs from early October until mid to late May.

When it's 20 degrees outside they use between 300 - 500 watts to keep the house at 70 degrees. I have a 18k BTU and a 12K BTU. Still amazed I can heat and cool a 1600 sq ft not well insulated house with only 30k BTU.

The 2 spikes at 12 am and 4 am are the hot water heater. In between it never reaches 500 watts to keep the house nice and cozy. The lowest temp since i lived here was -5 and they worked great.

 

[Travis Kelcee]

thanks for the heads up at low down lowes

we are also pricing one of those whole house 100 gal tanks , don’t know if those are leased from the propane store or bought

but yeah , propane stove , refrigerator , and heater works for us

everything else can run off the generator

how much are ya all paying for the propane and do they charge for delivery?

we have propane for $2.70 a gal

If you buy the tanks you can shop suppliers for the best price. If you lease you get locked in to whatever their price is. Buying is better where I live.

Our propane price is about the same as yours.

The 1st year we owned this place we didn't live here. Would only come up on weekends. Turned the heat down to 45 degrees when we were not here and it ended up costing me $2100 for propane to heat the house. A portion of that can be attributed to an old inefficient heater.

That's why I opted to build a solar backup generator vs a Generac and large propane tank install. Cost was the same and I "repurposed" it to run 1/2 my house off grid while it's just sitting there waiting for the power to go out. We lose grid power several times a year on average.

 

[Gray Wolf]

When I worked at the flour mill historic site we made butter in a few different ways including in a jar with paddles.
Nothing holds memories as much as it does growing up with my grandparents. With grandma always telling me to have the right movement with the plunger in the turn, and you better listen when grandma talked.

It's a new day GW, I wonder what's on the menu of life today?

For a small amount like a quart, you can just shake the jar end to end and the butter fat will stick together, just like in a churn.

I hope today brings some quality time in Fernhill park this morning with Miss Layla and then picking up some electrical parts. Hope yours's is stellar!

 

[oldmaninbc]

Ya - if I can get this deal discussed with the mortgage brokers - it'll be a 5 year mortgage - at around 4.6% - by then the kids will most probably have their own places to live (she will be 21 - and he 19) - and maybe then I can sell up and buy a caravan - by the sea - since there is more equity - than what is still owed concerning the apartment - could even rent it out - then rent a caravan (mobile home) - 60-70 miles away - down on the south coast somewhere -

Hey Gypsy, young enough to plan for the future and old enough to see the end game.

Enjoy your brotherly visit and reminiscing of days gone by

 

[Putembk]

45f here and thinking I can and should take a walk. Eye is starting to come around. The blur is slowly starting to dissipate. Glad that's over. Will be glad to see again. Have to wait 3 weeks to be fitted for a new pair of glasses.