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Putembk

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I was refilling my water jugs, the new ones, and I noticed my 40 gallon holding reservoir was starting to look a little funky. It’s been about six months since I drained and cleaned It. So I drained it washed it down and now it’s clean.

now that’s done I can check in on the garden.
 
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Goldhedge

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'Morning all!

Anyone try Adaptogens?

GROK: What are Adaptogens?
The idea of adaptogens—substances that help the body resist stress and maintain balance—originates in traditional herbal medicine systems, like Ayurveda (India) and Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM), which date back thousands of years. Herbs like ashwagandha (used in Ayurveda for over 3,000 years) and ginseng (documented in TCM since at least 100 CE) were prized for their ability to boost resilience and vitality, though they weren’t called "adaptogens" back then.

The term "adaptogen" was coined in 1947 by Soviet toxicologist Nikolai Lazarev. He was studying how certain plants could improve the body’s nonspecific resistance to stress. Later, in the 1950s and 1960s, Soviet scientists like Israel Brekhman and others formalized the concept, focusing on herbs like Rhodiola rosea and Eleutherococcus senticosus (Siberian ginseng). Their research was driven by Cold War-era goals to enhance soldiers' and workers' performance under stress, often in harsh conditions. They defined adaptogens by three criteria: they must be nontoxic, increase resistance to a broad range of stressors, and help normalize bodily functions.

In the West, adaptogens stayed under the radar until the late 20th century. They started gaining traction in the 1980s and 1990s as interest in natural medicine grew, spurred by books, alternative health movements, and early studies. But the real explosion happened in the 2010s. Google Trends shows searches for "adaptogens" spiking around 2016–2017, aligning with the wellness boom, Instagram-worthy superfood lattes (think matcha with ashwagandha), and brands marketing them as antidotes to modern burnout. Companies like Moon Juice and Gwyneth Paltrow’s Goop helped turn adaptogens into a trendy buzzword, with sales of adaptogenic supplements reportedly jumping 20% annually by the late 2010s.

So, while adaptogens as a concept have ancient origins, they "became a thing" in the modern sense—scientifically named in 1947 and culturally mainstream by the mid-2010s. Today, on March 12, 2025, they’re a staple in health stores, with ongoing debates about how much of their hype is backed by solid evidence versus clever marketing.

What is a good Adaptogen to take?
Choosing a "good" adaptogen depends on what you’re aiming for—stress relief, energy, focus, or something else—since different adaptogens have unique effects. Based on traditional use, scientific research, and current popularity as of March 12, 2025, here’s a breakdown of one standout option, plus a few others worth considering.

Ashwagandha is often recommended as a top pick. It’s a shrub root (Withania somnifera) from Ayurveda, used for over 3,000 years, and it’s one of the most studied adaptogens. It’s known for reducing stress and anxiety by lowering cortisol levels—studies, like one from 2019 in Medicine, showed a 30% cortisol drop in stressed adults after 60 days of 240 mg daily. It also helps with sleep (people report better quality at 300–600 mg) and might boost energy or stamina over time. It’s widely available in capsules, powders, or tinctures, and it’s generally well-tolerated, though some folks get drowsy or experience mild stomach upset. Start with 300 mg daily and adjust based on how you feel.
If ashwagandha isn’t your vibe, here are other solid options:
  • Rhodiola Rosea: Great for mental fatigue and focus. Soviet research from the ‘60s and modern studies (e.g., 2017 in Phytomedicine) suggest 200–400 mg daily can lift mood and fight burnout. It’s more stimulating than ashwagandha, so morning doses work best.
  • Holy Basil (Tulsi): Calming and anti-inflammatory. Used in Ayurveda, it’s less studied but shows promise for stress relief at 500–1,200 mg daily. Teas are popular and gentle.
  • Eleuthero (Siberian Ginseng): Boosts endurance and immunity. Research is mixed, but 300–800 mg daily is traditional for resilience against physical stress.
No adaptogen is a magic bullet—effects build over weeks, not hours, and the science is still catching up to the hype. Check with a doctor if you’re on meds (especially for thyroid, blood pressure, or mood), as interactions can happen (e.g., ashwagandha might amplify sedatives). Quality matters too—look for third-party tested brands, since the supplement market can be sketchy.

What’s your main goal with taking one? That could narrow it down further.

Disclaimer: Grok is not a doctor; please consult one. Don't share information that can identify you.
 

bigsur51

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Ms cola found these if anyone's ever craving a dopamine fix, which I seem to favor after supper.
Located them at the same store she found the unrefined sugar. Took me a while to like 'em too.
She eats 3 of them at her lunch at work, for a total of 70 calories, with zero fat, & 1g sugar only.
They are the cleanest chocolaty treat I have eaten. In reality there is no chocolate in them either.
Just 60% cocoa that is firmly attached like a hard coating on the outside, with soft tasty fig inside.
I eat 6 of these for 140 calories after our typical meatless dinner. That feel good hit to your brain!
A 20 oz package lasts us a minimum of 2 weeks. About $12-$13 in store at Costco. Yummy Yum.

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meatless?…are you vegetarian?
 

oldmaninbc

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Good day OF...old seems like a key word today, it appears with my recent backache, I am now down to only carrying one 4L milk jug of water at a time, not the usual two jugs.
Next thing I'll need a little wagon with a jug and a pumping device to water, oh well, some have it worse. That does not change my situation but it does put some perspective on it.
 

cola

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meatless?…are you vegetarian?
Nope. I was for a dozen years when I was in college up until I was about 30 or 31. I remember eating an Ono dinner on the Islands, and I figured if I was going to break my trend no better place than there to eat fish. Now I eat Norway smoked salmon, perhaps once or twice every two weeks, and we make a large pot of chicken stew just about as frequently, made with brown and red rice, black and red beans, lentils, carrots, onions, garlic, leeks, fresh ginger, with turmeric, curry, and black pepper for spice. We typically toss in one of our dried red peppers which are very hot. That lasts usually 3-4 meals over a two week period. With heavy ginger, garlic, turmeric, curry and peppers, it stays fresh up to the end. We eat firm tofu that we saute in its own water, and steam broccoli most nights for dinner. With bread and cheese. I have not eaten a piece of beef since I was 17, and never liked pork. Sounds boring to many, but this manner of eating has grown on me, such that I cannot imagine eating any other way. And now the wifey too.
 

oldmaninbc

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I was refilling my water jugs, the new ones, and I noticed my 40 gallon holding reservoir was starting to look a little funky. It’s been about six months since I drained and cleaned It. So I drained it washed it down and now it’s clean.

now that’s done I can check in on the garden.
Funky water = funky plants and not a good funk. On the job as always. How is your lawn looking, is it showing green?
My Mrs likes to watches 2 tow truck drivers on TV, there is one show from Colorado she watches... them are some treacherous roads you got there.

Hello Mr.Pute:)
 

bigsur51

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Nope. I was for a dozen years when I was in college up until I was about 30 or 31. I remember eating an Ono dinner on the Islands, and I figured if I was going to break my trend no better place than there to eat fish. Now I eat Norway smoked salmon, perhaps once or twice every two weeks, and we make a large pot of chicken stew just about as frequently, made with brown and red rice, black and red beans, lentils, carrots, onions, garlic, leeks, fresh ginger, with turmeric, curry, and black pepper for spice. We typically toss in one of our dried red peppers which are very hot. That lasts usually 3-4 meals over a two week period. With heavy ginger, garlic, turmeric, curry and peppers, it stays fresh up to the end. We eat firm tofu that we saute in its own water, and steam broccoli most nights for dinner. With bread and cheese. I have not eaten a piece of beef since I was 17, and never liked pork. Sounds boring to many, but this manner of eating has grown on me, such that I cannot imagine eating any other way. And now the wifey too.

interesting

It is my belief that we all have our own unique eating experiences and we each have to find out what works best for us…

for my gf and I , after trying many different foods, we are settling into a carnivore diet

it is a mission to get off sugar and minimize carbs

it works for us
 

oldmaninbc

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Nope. I was for a dozen years when I was in college up until I was about 30 or 31. I remember eating an Ono dinner on the Islands, and I figured if I was going to break my trend no better place than there to eat fish. Now I eat Norway smoked salmon, perhaps once or twice every two weeks, and we make a large pot of chicken stew just about as frequently, made with brown and red rice, black and red beans, lentils, carrots, onions, garlic, leeks, fresh ginger, with turmeric, curry, and black pepper for spice. We typically toss in one of our dried red peppers which are very hot. That lasts usually 3-4 meals over a two week period. With heavy ginger, garlic, turmeric, curry and peppers, it stays fresh up to the end. We eat firm tofu that we saute in its own water, and steam broccoli most nights for dinner. With bread and cheese. I have not eaten a piece of beef since I was 17, and never liked pork. Sounds boring to many, but this manner of eating has grown on me, such that I cannot imagine eating any other way. And now the wifey too.
Food is subjective to personal taste, just the way it should be.

We eat meatless 2 days a week and I don't eat meat at lunch very often.

Hi cola:)
 

cola

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interesting

It is my belief that we all have our own unique eating experiences and we each have to find out what works best for us…

for my gf and I , after trying many different foods, we are settling into a carnivore diet

it is a mission to get off sugar and minimize carbs

it works for us
I don't monitor too much. I eat simple mostlyl but what I want. I have found that if you stay trim, with little or no body fat, your body will regulate itself just about perfectly. Since I don't drink or smoke, this works for me too. Ane, like you, I never judge.
 

Putembk

One Toke Over The Line
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Funky water = funky plants and not a good funk. On the job as always. How is your lawn looking, is it showing green?
My Mrs likes to watches 2 tow truck drivers on TV, there is one show from Colorado she watches... them are some treacherous roads you got there.

Hello Mr.Pute:)
Lawn is starting to come around. I put grub killer on it about a week ago. Will do it again in a week or so right before the next snow. Fargin Japanese Beatles. I am hoping it stary dormant for a few more weeks....then I will have to mow twice a week throughout the summer.

The problem with our roads is maintenance....pot holes as well as out of state individuals who don't know how to drive in winter conditions. If you get up in those mountains and you don't have the right vehicle with the right tires you could easily end up going down a thousand feet straight down.

I have towed boats in the summer and snowmobiles in the winter and It's not me I worry about.....it's the other guy in a hurry.
 

SubGirl

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Hey y’all just taking a break from the days doings. Uppotted the veg tent today. Everyone seems happy. Gave them a good drink and took a couple of cuts from the cap junky plants to maybe give them one more go around.
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Hope everyone is having a good day. It’s beautiful and sunny here today. May work out getting the veggie space cleared out. 🥰✌️
 

dogzter

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Hey y’all just taking a break from the days doings. Uppotted the veg tent today. Everyone seems happy. Gave them a good drink and took a couple of cuts from the cap junky plants to maybe give them one more go around.
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Hope everyone is having a good day. It’s beautiful and sunny here today. May work out getting the veggie space cleared out. 🥰✌️
Pretty cool you can do that in your kitchen............not allowed to do that here dangit.
 

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