The Original O'l Farts Club.

[jokerman]

First Respect is earned not demanded.....Employees have to respect who they work for. Employees like you mentioned above never last....they need to go to work for the gov't .

My last 10 years I only managed the managers. I tried to be one of "the guys" with the employees. But I never socialized with them.

My general Sales Manager, Used Car Manager, Service Manager, Parts Manager and Office Manager were my direct contacts.

They were all trusted long term employees. Most had been there over 10 years. As long as they could do the numbers I pretty much let them do their thing within MY system.

I have been retired 15 years come December and the service mgr and Used Car mgr are still friends and we talk often.

Could you get us any deals on undercoated was brought up at the last meetings by some

 

[Gray Wolf]

It's always good when management and employees respect each other. Have been on both sides and enjoy working with people who are either passionate or caring for their work. When I go to work, that's where my mind is at. On one occasion I tried to get my friend fired from his job, he was such a slack ass, sitting on his butt while your working at the same job and both being paid the same. The union would not let me put in a grievance against a fellow employee. My friend eventually quit and moved on to work more suitable to him.

It has been my experience as a manager that you can talk to all your people to get the all the facts, insights and ideas before making a decision and some will be happy with your decision, and some will not.

My company spent a lot of money training us middle managers in the latest participative management techniques in classrooms, retreats, and seminars and I think it's fair to say that I was respected and admired by some, but despite my efforts to be a good manager, hated by others.

I had a number of grievances filed against me in both union and non-union shops over my career, as further proof of my lack of success pleasing everyone, but to my credit I never lost one.

 

[jokerman]

As an old elektrical engineer, I appreciate the science in this.

That was on page 258 of the Richter, H. P. PRACTICAL ELECTRICAL WIRING Residential, Farm, and Industrial handbook too

 

[RequiredUsername]

First Respect is earned not demanded.....Employees have to respect who they work for. Employees like you mentioned above never last....they need to go to work for the gov't .

My last 10 years I only managed the managers. I tried to be one of "the guys" with the employees. But I never socialized with them.

My general Sales Manager, Used Car Manager, Service Manager, Parts Manager and Office Manager were my direct contacts.

They were all trusted long term employees. Most had been there over 10 years. As long as they could do the numbers I pretty much let them do their thing within MY system.

I have been retired 15 years come December and the service mgr and Used Car mgr are still friends and we talk often.

Absolutely. As a body man in a stall for 13 years I watched employees come and go all the time, managers too. Some managers had my respect because they earned it and we always maintained a good relationship. I would go out of my way to help them, and they often helped me without me asking for anything. Others were ass kissers ready to throw me under the bus for their mistakes. I actually had to tell one guy that a fuck up on his part doesnt mean an emergency on my end where I lose money. When I changed employers one of these jerks came to beg for a job, and our boss made his judgement simply by looking at us shaking our heads, walking away from him, or just the look on our faces. Sometimes the world is small enough. Small enough.

 

[Gray Wolf]

You should try these if you like Habaneros.

It's a lemon drop habenero, medium spicy ( i like it hot hot hot ) but with the most delicious and surprising minty, coriandery taste.

My daughter correctly identified subtle note of gooseberry/rhubarb too.

They are truly delicious, words cannot explain.

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I love the fruity flavors of Habaneros, but don't care for intense heat, so use them in cooking so as to tone them down some. For instance, my 5X5 Chili recipe calls for five Habaneros for 5lbs of meat.

I think he wanted to stay with us instead.

You can hardly blame him.

 

[oldmaninbc]

First Respect is earned not demanded.....Employees have to respect who they work for. Employees like you mentioned above never last....they need to go to work for the gov't .

My last 10 years I only managed the managers. I tried to be one of "the guys" with the employees. But I never socialized with them.

My general Sales Manager, Used Car Manager, Service Manager, Parts Manager and Office Manager were my direct contacts.

They were all trusted long term employees. Most had been there over 10 years. As long as they could do the numbers I pretty much let them do their thing within MY system.

I have been retired 15 years come December and the service mgr and Used Car mgr are still friends and we talk often.

If I can't do what needs to be done to keep things profitable for the business, then we both miss out.

Then there is that part of me that was exposed to asbestos, silica and lord knows what else by a company that was so disrespectful to their employees, that their lives ended in death or life long disabilities. It's unfortunate that white collar crime is minimized. That makes me angry.

I see you as a good manager and no doubt put your heart into it.

 

[Putembk]

Absolutely. As a body man in a stall for 13 years I watched employees come and go all the time, managers too. Some managers had my respect because they earned it and we always maintained a good relationship. I would go out of my way to help them, and they often helped me without me asking for anything. Others were ass kissers ready to throw me under the bus for their mistakes. I actually had to tell one guy that a fuck up on his part doesnt mean an emergency on my end where I lose money. When I changed employers one of these jerks came to beg for a job, and our boss made his judgement simply by looking at us shaking our heads, walking away from him, or just the look on our faces. Sometimes the world is small enough. Small enough.

You are hired.....

 

[Gray Wolf]

Absolutely. As a body man in a stall for 13 years I watched employees come and go all the time, managers too. Some managers had my respect because they earned it and we always maintained a good relationship. I would go out of my way to help them, and they often helped me without me asking for anything. Others were ass kissers ready to throw me under the bus for their mistakes. I actually had to tell one guy that a fuck up on his part doesnt mean an emergency on my end where I lose money. When I changed employers one of these jerks came to beg for a job, and our boss made his judgement simply by looking at us shaking our heads, walking away from him, or just the look on our faces. Sometimes the world is small enough. Small enough.

Revenge is sweet! Years after my manager screwed me over before leaving, he sent our CEO his resume, looking to return in an open middle management position. He was unemployed and it was during a serious industry slowdown, making jobs scarce.

Because the CEO remembered that a couple us had worked the same place and time frame, he asked for and received our input and opinions, costing my ex-manager consideration.

Never walk on someone on the way up, lest you meet them on the way down.

 

[Putembk]

I grow marijuana now and want to be friends with anybody that wants to be my friend.....Then there is Roster.....

Private joke.....you had to be there.

 

[oldmaninbc]

It has been my experience as a manager that you can talk to all your people to get the all the facts, insights and ideas before making a decision and some will be happy with your decision, and some will not.

My company spent a lot of money training us middle managers in the latest participative management techniques in classrooms, retreats, and seminars and I think it's fair to say that I was respected and admired by some, but despite my efforts to be a good manager, hated by others.

I had a number of grievances filed against me in both union and non-union shops over my career, as further proof of my lack of success pleasing everyone, but to my credit I never lost one.

I think you probably have always done your best, at whatever you do. Fair minded and willing to learn.

Chatting with you I get the idea of your intellect and commitment to whatever your doing. I probably would have enjoyed working with/for you.
I can appreciate a persons passion. Education does not dry up, learning is a lifelong journey.

 

[exoticrobotic]

I love the fruity flavors of Habaneros, but don't care for intense heat, so use them in cooking so as to tone them down some. For instance, my 5X5 Chili recipe calls for five Habaneros for 5lbs of meat.

These Habeneros aren't that hot. Towards the seeds they are hot but just as you think wow this is a bit too hot it tapers down some to a pleasant heat. But the flavour is where it is. They are exceptional and go great in a cold chicken sandwich.

Then there is that part of me that was exposed to asbestos, silica and lord knows what else by a company that was so disrespectful to their employees, that their lives ended in death or life long disabilities. It's unfortunate that white collar crime is minimized. That makes me angry.

It still goes on today. Many reports in the news recently in the UK about non protected stone cutters cutting reconstituted stone for worktops suffering from Silicosis due to the high Silica content in the stone dust.

I hope your exposure to Asbestos was minimal. When i was doing gas work the people i was with had a total disregard for asbestos. Even when they knew it was an asbestos flue or asbestos pipe insulation they would smash it up dry with a claw hammer.

 

[jokerman]

You are hired.....

need an electrician?

 

[jokerman]

I wired this place

 

[RequiredUsername]

Yes. The persona. Titles are part of the personality. That word persona means a mask you speak through, as an actor playing a role. That is not the real you.

We can talk easily about the artificial.

 

[kevinn]

Seems like I see a fair amount of Southerners who have their beliefs

Yes, but when in my back yard don't try and force those beliefs on me.

 

[kevinn]

I grow marijuana now and want to be friends with anybody that wants to be my friend.....Then there is Roster.....

Private joke.....you had to be there.

Oh, are you missing Rooster !!!!!!!!!!!

 

[jokerman]

Yes, but when in my back yard don't try and force those beliefs on me.

agreed and the same goes for my back yard.

 

[Gray Wolf]

agreed and the same goes for my back yard.

Not to mention front and side yards.

 

[oldmaninbc]

These Habeneros aren't that hot. Towards the seeds they are hot but just as you think wow this is a bit too hot it tapers down some to a pleasant heat. But the flavour is where it is. They are exceptional and go great in a cold chicken sandwich.




It still goes on today. Many reports in the news recently in the UK about non protected stone cutters cutting reconstituted stone for worktops suffering from Silicosis due to the high Silica content in the stone dust.

I hope your exposure to Asbestos was minimal. When i was doing gas work the people i was with had a total disregard for asbestos. Even when they knew it was an asbestos flue or asbestos pipe insulation they would smash it up dry with a claw hammer.

I have a registered/accepted claim with the Compensation Board for asbestosis and pleural Plaques. I certainly have medical problems associated with my exposure but so far, not the worst outcome. I can have lung pain anytime day or night and I lose my breath quickly and recovery is slow. The respirologist said to me one day, "you know what a dried up orange peel looks like," that's what's happening to your lungs. My immune system is also comprised by the asbestos. Dealing with the compensation board is a hurdle, after 10 years they wore me down. At this point any costs to my health associated with my exposure will be covered and in the event of my death, my Mrs. would receive a cash settlement. That's after my own attempt for a settlement and the hiring of 2 lawyers later. The Board will intentionally try to discourage you.

 

[jokerman]

Not to mention front and side yards.

BUT
If you are willing to do some leaf removal we certainly can come to some agreement.