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The Oregon Weed Thread -Grows, News and Laws and Whatever

Bradley_Danks

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This is what the afflicted area looks like after sunlight treatment
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Not really sure what to think, I guess I'll see if the fungus still springs back after my latest attempt at treatment. I found botrytis on a plant today for the first time, hopefully the last time too. If the weather does what they say its gonna do seems like everything I've got left should be caked in resin and ready to harvest in a week or so.


Try applying a copper foliar spray like copper sulfate. The product I use is liquid biomin copper.
 

OregonBorn

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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Anyone Know How To Calculate The Chances Of Frost?[/FONT]

There are a variety of things that may damage your Cannabis plants with cold. Those being frost, frost/freeze, and freeze. The frost damage depends on the lowest temperature reached and the length of time it is at or below freezing.

Generally, a frost warning is issued if the wind speed is below 10 mph and the air temperature is above 32 degrees Fahrenheit. A frost/freeze warning is made when winds are below 10 mph and the air temperature is below 32 degrees. A freeze warning is made when winds are above 10 mph and the temperature is below 32 degrees. For frost, you use the dew point to predict when frost will occur. Frost is water vapor that forms ice crystals on solid surfaces like cars, windows, leaf surfaces etc. When the air cools, water vapor condenses onto surfaces as dew, or in the air as fog, mist, rain or snow. There are two types of frost. The first, called advective frost, occurs when a cold air mass moves into an area in the form of storms with winds and prcipitation. The other type of frost which will happen in your location this week is called radiation frost. It occurs when we have clear skies and calm winds, allowing an inversion to develop. This typically happens when there are no clouds to trap heat radiating off of the ground. If there is little or no wind, the heat rises into the upper layers of the atmosphere. The cold air close to the ground is trapped by the warmer air lying on top of it.

So back to the dew point and frost. At night the air temperature drops. Cold air does not hold as much water vapor as warm air does during the day, so at some point the air sheds the water vapor which turns to a liquid, or dew on solid surfaces, and that may turn to ice, depending. This is condensation. The temperature at which the condensation occurs is called the dew point. The air must be this temperature for condensation to occur. Although the air temperature can never go lower than the dew point, the dew point can drop as the air temperature goes down. If the predicted temperature is 34 degrees and the dew point is 32 degrees, you probably will not get frost. But if the predicted temperature is 34 degrees and the dew point is 20 degrees, you will likely see lower temperatures and frost, because there is nothing to stop the air temperature from dropping and ice to form. That is, if there is no wind. Wind changes the equation.

If there is no overcast, and the dew point is lower than freezing and there is less than a 10 MPH breeze, and the air temperature is predicted to be near or just below freezing, there is likely going to be frost overnight. If you live in a lowland area between hills, air can also sink with convection off the hills or mountains and pool into your area and from frost even if the surrounding area is not expected to see any. In your charts, it looks like there is a freeze coming your way around dawn on Sunday morning. The duration does not look like it will be long, but... the tops of plants are likely to be most affected, if they are outside. In greenhouses they will likely be OK. Any overcast and frost will not likely happen. Ground radiation will help the lower parts of plants stay warm, as the ground is not frozen now.
 
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Robrites

There are a variety of things that may damage your Cannabis plants with cold. Those being frost, frost/freeze, and freeze. The frost damage depends on the lowest temperature reached and the length of time it is at or below freezing.

Generally, a frost warning is issued if the wind speed is below 10 mph and the air temperature is above 32 degrees Fahrenheit. A frost/freeze warning is made when winds are below 10 mph and the air temperature is below 32 degrees. A freeze warning is made when winds are above 10 mph and the temperature is below 32 degrees. For frost, you use the dew point to predict when frost will occur. Frost is water vapor that forms ice crystals on solid surfaces like cars, windows, leaf surfaces etc. When the air cools, water vapor condenses onto surfaces as dew, or in the air as fog, mist, rain or snow. There are two types of frost. The first, called advective frost, occurs when a cold air mass moves into an area in the form of storms with winds and prcipitation. The other type of frost which will happen in your location this week is called radiation frost. It occurs when we have clear skies and calm winds, allowing an inversion to develop. This typically happens when there are no clouds to trap heat radiating off of the ground. If there is little or no wind, the heat rises into the upper layers of the atmosphere. The cold air close to the ground is trapped by the warmer air lying on top of it.

So back to the dew point and frost. At night the air temperature drops. Cold air does not hold as much water vapor as warm air does during the day, so at some point the air sheds the water vapor which turns to a liquid, or dew on solid surfaces, and that may turn to ice, depending. This is condensation. The temperature at which the condensation occurs is called the dew point. The air must be this temperature for condensation to occur. Although the air temperature can never go lower than the dew point, the dew point can drop as the air temperature goes down. If the predicted temperature is 34 degrees and the dew point is 32 degrees, you probably will not get frost. But if the predicted temperature is 34 degrees and the dew point is 20 degrees, you will likely see lower temperatures and frost, because there is nothing to stop the air temperature from dropping and ice to form. That is, if there is no wind. Wind changes the equation.

If there is no overcast, and the dew point is lower than freezing and there is less than a 10 MPH breeze, and the air temperature is predicted to be near or just below freezing, there is likely going to be frost overnight. If you live in a lowland area between hills, air can also sink with convection off the hills or mountains and pool into your area and from frost even if the surrounding area is not expected to see any. In your charts, it looks like there is a freeze coming your way around dawn on Sunday morning. The duration does not look like it will be long, but... the tops of plants are likely to be most affected, if they are outside. In greenhouses they will likely be OK. Any overcast and frost will not likely happen. Ground radiation will help the lower parts of plants stay warm, as the ground is not frozen now.
Great answer! Thanks for taking the time. Had frost on vehicles but not on the plants last night. I will look for a weather site that reports dew point.
 
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Robrites

Heavy Frost....Fan leaves are drooping and buds are icy-hard. Don't know if they will recover.
 

OregonBorn

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Heavy Frost....Fan leaves are drooping and buds are icy-hard. Don't know if they will recover.


:comfort:


Likely the leaves/buds will turn black when it heats up. They do not recover from a freeze. May as well harvest them now. I had that happen to me in Douglas Co. back when I was living there. An early frost nailed my late finishing plants in mid-October. The trichomes were OK though. I dried my colas fast in the GH (no point in curing them) and made them into hash. You can make bubble hash, BHO, alcohol extract hash, or tumble/sift them frozen for ice hash. Salvage time.
 
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Robrites

:comfort:


Likely the leaves/buds will turn black when it heats up. They do not recover from a freeze. May as well harvest them now. I had that happen to me in Douglas Co. back when I was living there. An early frost nailed my late finishing plants in mid-October. The trichomes were OK though. I dried my colas fast in the GH (no point in curing them) and made them into hash. You can make bubble hash, BHO, alcohol extract hash, or tumble/sift them frozen for ice hash. Salvage time.
I might have squeezed by...the leaves perked up after the sun came out...I don't think they actually froze until the wee morning hours. 29 tonight and then mid 30's and low 40's for the next 10 days. Think I will make a cover for tonight.
 

PDX Dopesmoker

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As it turns out I think there was probably no winning with that stem rot. I did manage to stop it spreading on the surface of the branch, but that also effectively girded that branch and killed the branch. I'm also pretty sure I didn't completely kill the fungus, I think that the fungus was still alive inside the dead/girded branch with only the external part of the fungus dead.
 

panick503

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I grew in Azalea a few years ago, which is up in the mountains between grants pass and roseburg. Last week before harvest there were icicles in the leaves every morning. They thawed out as soon as the sun hit, and the plants powered on through it. The bag appeal of the flower was probably lowered, but the plants finished just fine
 

OregonBorn

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Endless changes...



[FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]TO: Interested Parties [/FONT]
[FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]RE: Notice of proposed permanent rulemaking – OAR 333-007, -008 and -064: Marijuana Labeling and Testing; Medical Marijuana Growers, Processors, Dispensaries and Grow Site Administrators[/FONT]

The Oregon Health Authority, Public Health Division, Oregon Medical Marijuana Program (OMMP) is proposing to adopt new regulations and amend Oregon Administrative Rules in chapter 333, divisions 7, 8 and 64.
This rulemaking permanently adopts rule amendments pertaining to the testing of marijuana. Changes being made will clarify testing requirements and will also clarify standards that cannabis laboratories need to follow.
This rulemaking also amends the labeling rules to outline the transition of authority from OHA to OLCC per SB 1057 passed in the 2017 legislative session. Housekeeping changes are being made to division 8 which includes moving labeling definitions from division 7 and stating a time frame for how long a grower needs to be in good standing to become a grow site administrator.
You are being invited to review and comment on the proposed rules.
You may file written comments before 5:00 p.m. on November 23, 2018 by submitting them to the Public Health Division Rules Coordinator at the following address:

OHA, Public Health Division
Brittany Hall, Administrative Rules Coordinator
800 NE Oregon Street, Suite 930
Portland, Oregon 97232

E-mail comments to: [email protected]
You may also send comments by fax to (971) 673-1299.
If you wish to present oral testimony, a public hearing will be held on November 19, 2018 at 10:00 a.m. at the Portland State Office Building, 800 NE Oregon St., Room 1B, Portland, OR 97232.
Final rules will be filed after consideration of all comments.
For more details, please see the full text of the rules and corresponding rulemaking documents at the following website: Healthoregon.org/ommprules
If you have any questions or would prefer a hard copy be sent, please contact [email protected].
 

PDX Dopesmoker

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Endless changes...



[FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]TO: Interested Parties [/FONT]
[FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]RE: Notice of proposed permanent rulemaking – OAR 333-007, -008 and -064: Marijuana Labeling and Testing; Medical Marijuana Growers, Processors, Dispensaries and Grow Site Administrators[/FONT]

The Oregon Health Authority, Public Health Division, Oregon Medical Marijuana Program (OMMP) is proposing to adopt new regulations and amend Oregon Administrative Rules in chapter 333, divisions 7, 8 and 64.
This rulemaking permanently adopts rule amendments pertaining to the testing of marijuana. Changes being made will clarify testing requirements and will also clarify standards that cannabis laboratories need to follow.
This rulemaking also amends the labeling rules to outline the transition of authority from OHA to OLCC per SB 1057 passed in the 2017 legislative session. Housekeeping changes are being made to division 8 which includes moving labeling definitions from division 7 and stating a time frame for how long a grower needs to be in good standing to become a grow site administrator.
You are being invited to review and comment on the proposed rules.
You may file written comments before 5:00 p.m. on November 23, 2018 by submitting them to the Public Health Division Rules Coordinator at the following address:

OHA, Public Health Division
Brittany Hall, Administrative Rules Coordinator
800 NE Oregon Street, Suite 930
Portland, Oregon 97232

E-mail comments to: [email protected]
You may also send comments by fax to (971) 673-1299.
If you wish to present oral testimony, a public hearing will be held on November 19, 2018 at 10:00 a.m. at the Portland State Office Building, 800 NE Oregon St., Room 1B, Portland, OR 97232.
Final rules will be filed after consideration of all comments.
For more details, please see the full text of the rules and corresponding rulemaking documents at the following website: Healthoregon.org/ommprules
If you have any questions or would prefer a hard copy be sent, please contact [email protected].

Apparently they're trying to put into place a system which allows the OLCC to halt non-retail sales of product and force the wholesalers to hold onto their if prices go too low, so essentially government controlled prices.

https://www.oregon.gov/olcc/marijua...BillPackage/2018_MJBill TechPackage_Draft.pdf

(4) If the Commission determines that the supply of marijuana items offered for sale by marijuana retailers that hold a license issued under ORS 475B.105 is exceeding consumer demand for the marijuana items, and if the commission determines that the market for marijuana items in this state will not self-correct for the excess, the commission may issue an order that temporarily reduces the amount of usable marijuana that may be transferred pursuant to this section or that temporarily suspends the ability to transfer usable marijuana pursuant to this section.

Seeing unelected government officials trying to grant themselves broad new powers over people's economic activity should be a nice reminder to the rest of us what kind of people always seem inevitably to end up in charge when single party government becomes entrenched.
Is Newt Bueler one of those libertarian-lite Republicans or is he the churchy kind?
 

OregonBorn

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My harvest is all in and curing now. Lots more trimming to do and scissor hash to scrape off and smoke, but its all chopped. Supposed to rain from today out for the next 10 days here on the west slopes of the Cascades.
 
Shady stuff in the Oregon hemp industry lands some people in hot water...very sad for the farmers involved and their outcomes. This is what happens when you try to steal someone's breeding work and don't know what you are getting yourself into. I designed our lines to self-destruct when F2'd. Ignorance is expensive.

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PDX Dopesmoker

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Wow, thats a quite a lot of money at stake. Nice to know where most of the pollen ended up flying also.
Are the folks who tried to sell fakes of your stuff going to have any shot at paying up?
 

redlaser

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Not a good situation, apparently no testing done on those seeds. Bigger issue if it’s stolen work, hate thieves with a passion.

Don’t know him personally, but a couple years ago Travis was the only U.S. distributor close by that carried a fan I was looking for, the Magfan. They handled the transaction alright as well as setup support. For what that’s worth of course, not much, as far as being related to theft
 

beta

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Shady stuff in the Oregon hemp industry lands some people in hot water...very sad for the farmers involved and their outcomes. This is what happens when you try to steal someone's breeding work and don't know what you are getting yourself into. I designed our lines to self-destruct when F2'd. Ignorance is expensive.

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"Cerecedes affirmed and promised to Paul that the defective seeds offered for sale were feminized S1 seeds of a cross between 'Special Sauce' and 'SMGO' strains of industrial hemp with an equal or better feminized rate, and better CBD content overall, than other feminized seeds on the market," the suit says.

How exactly does someone produce 'feminized S1' seeds that are a cross between two different cultivars? That is a contradiction in terms.
 

redlaser

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How exactly does someone produce 'feminized S1' seeds that are a cross between two different cultivars? That is a contradiction in terms.

Seems like if “special sauce” was crossed with “SMGO”, and produced seeds, and those seeds were grown and a selection was reversed, it would be possible.
 

OregonBorn

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How exactly does someone produce 'feminized S1' seeds that are a cross between two different cultivars? That is a contradiction in terms.

Sounds like the seeds were S1 from a selfed hermie plants that were a cross between the strains mentioned. It also sounds like most of the resulting plants hermed, and spread pollen all over. Hence what they are calling 'males' with seeds were obviously female plants that grew from feminized seeds and hermed with both male and female flowers. As best as I can gather from the post about the court cases anyway.

At any rate, this is what happens when you use natural occurring herms to generate S1 seeds. They will result in feminized seeds with a very high ratio of herms. So in the end they are being sued for very poor breeding practices. A good lawyer could say that they were all genetically female plants. They may have hermed, but they were still females and not males, as stated in the article. Also it is pretty common knowledge that CBD ratios are random in strains with high CBD, and not all the plants of a strain will be high in CBD.

People really have no clue about Cannabis plants it seems. In the above case, no one seems to know a damn thing about what they are doing. Grower, breeder, or legal counsel.
 
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Robrites

800-pound pot seizure leads to illegal central Oregon growing sites

800-pound pot seizure leads to illegal central Oregon growing sites

BEND — Central Oregon authorities say they confiscated 800 pounds of marijuana and 50 pounds of marijuana concentrate, leading to the discovery of illegal pot-producing sites in the region.
The Bulletin reports that authorities found sites in Sisters, Redmond and La Pine, and that three men were indicted by a grand jury on Wednesday.
Twenty-eight-year-old Andrew I. Pollack and 40-year-old Dusty Michael Jones are charged with unlawful possession, delivery and manufacturing of marijuana.
Twenty-eight-year-old Shaun Gutta is charged with unlawful possession, delivery and manufacture of marijuana, unlawful possession of more than an ounce of cannabinoid extracts, and frequenting a place where controlled substances are used.
Pollack has been assigned to the public defender's office, but an attorney isn't listed in online court records. It's not clear from online court records if Gutta and Jones have attorneys.
-- The Associated Press
 

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