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tin-any way you can repot the plant and check out the roots? Might help out a lot if you could see how healthy they are.
I've developed a little problem of my own. 4 of my seedlings appear to have fuzz on the top of them. The others in the same propogator, getting the same water, started in the same clean rapid rooters are perfectly fine. Anyone know what the reason behind this is? And does anyone know if I should remove the fuzz and keep going, or cull the herd? I'm really frustrated with this right now so kind vibes are always appreciated.
I've developed a little problem of my own. 4 of my seedlings appear to have fuzz on the top of them. The others in the same propogator, getting the same water, started in the same clean rapid rooters are perfectly fine. Anyone know what the reason behind this is? And does anyone know if I should remove the fuzz and keep going, or cull the herd? I'm really frustrated with this right now so kind vibes are always appreciated.
osecretgardeno
Member
what exactly do you mean by "seedlings" ? have they sprouted? are there leaves? or are you talking about that sort of area near the RR where the root is going in and the seedling is coming out ? if so, i've had that before and it all worked out A OK ... let me know what is it, i'd be interested to know and hopefully help you out ...
keep your head up buddy, hell i just through out a clone of something i was told was the "the purple kush pheno no one can find" ... WOOPS. you live you learn.
good vibes to you and your babies.
peace,
sg
@tin-look for root growth as well as color. I think some additives and nutrients could stain your roots (I'm not sure) but my plants have nice white roots and they're fed GH 3 part + Liquid Karma. Think about how long the plants have been vegged for and what the root mass looks like.
thanks sg-I knew you'd come through. Here's the deal, the two little starter leaves (cotyledons) to the top of the rapid rooter has this fuzz. It looked to me like mold. One of the seedlings had fallen over and was covered with this crap. I pulled them out of the flat, cleaned it up and replaced my cuttings and starts. I lost 1 PPP and 3 TW, which stinks.
I took about 20 cuttings today, so we should be back into a normal perpetual in a month or so.
thanks sg-I knew you'd come through. Here's the deal, the two little starter leaves (cotyledons) to the top of the rapid rooter has this fuzz. It looked to me like mold. One of the seedlings had fallen over and was covered with this crap. I pulled them out of the flat, cleaned it up and replaced my cuttings and starts. I lost 1 PPP and 3 TW, which stinks.
I took about 20 cuttings today, so we should be back into a normal perpetual in a month or so.
osecretgardeno
Member
so it sounds like you just culled the moldy ones? if i had the option / space, i'd try to separate them and hope that they overcome the "mold" ... never quite sure what it is. going all the way up to the cotyledons is probably not a good sign though, so maybe that was the best choice.
hey, on a side topic, how is that GH 3 part working out in hempy? i was just reading a huge nute study that seemed to be bashing fox farms a little bit and it made me think that i should consider some new options ... i'm getting lower on my FF line up, so id be interested in hearing some other opinions for hempy ... anyone out there.
peace,
sg
ps - this was the study i was reading ... called FF "junk food" for cannabis. NUTE STUDY
Yeah man, I had to pull 'em. Sucks, but better now, then later I suppose.
As for the GH. I love it! It's easy and with the Liquid Karma, things go well. Any problem I've had have all been due to low temps at night. I need to get a thermostatically powered damper for my exhaust rig.
I bought 3 gallons of the GH 3 part, close to two years ago. I run through the LK though. I use it with my clones and into veg through bloom. It's been great and I've not had to use a ph adjuster since increasing the ratio of LK in veg and increasing in flower.
I've gone with starting at quarter strength to a 2-2-2 rate at flip, then work the rate all the way up to 1-2-5 with no problems at all. Once I jumped up on the K to a 5, my flowers exploded!
Hope this helps.
As for the GH. I love it! It's easy and with the Liquid Karma, things go well. Any problem I've had have all been due to low temps at night. I need to get a thermostatically powered damper for my exhaust rig.
I bought 3 gallons of the GH 3 part, close to two years ago. I run through the LK though. I use it with my clones and into veg through bloom. It's been great and I've not had to use a ph adjuster since increasing the ratio of LK in veg and increasing in flower.
I've gone with starting at quarter strength to a 2-2-2 rate at flip, then work the rate all the way up to 1-2-5 with no problems at all. Once I jumped up on the K to a 5, my flowers exploded!
Hope this helps.
hiya dub,are you using LK at every watering? also,how do you calculate the n p k ratio? or are you going by the directions on the gh three part bottles? i liked the flora nova but the build up is too much. i think i will get better results with flora series and LK.
and btw,i cant get that one stinky plant out of its bucket cuz the roots are grown around the handle that is molded into it!! its a three pound,square coffe can. i flushed it good but i think its still guna smell like rotten eggs!! no more coffee cans!! walmart has 10 ltr buckets on sale for 2 bucks so i picked up 50 of em! took em all i did!
tin-i use LK all the way through, just follow the bottle reccomendations and keep a close eye on how the plant responds, same holds true for the GH 3 part. That sucks about the plant in the coffee can. If she's still vegging, couldn't you cut the container in to a few pieces and repot? I mean, if you were going to, you'd probably have to cut away some of the root ball and some of the leaves....you could just flip her and get whatever buds you'll get.
Great deal on the buckets.
Great deal on the buckets.
dub,i was thinkin of the same thing,i just wasnt sure i could cut the roots any. gunna try it. does the LK have cal/mag in it? i use ro water so i have to have calmag. hence the molasses. i also think i should use the silica blast to make the stems stronger cuz they grow so fast with the flora series they tend to be somewhat weak. i have to stay at about 1/4 nutes with gh three part untill i hit bloom then i can hit hard with the nutes. cept the super skunk,she is nute sensitive she is. im likin those t-5s by the way! big difference in veg fer sure!!they do run hotter than the t8s though.
hi dub, i veg and flower in two gal buckets and the ones i have in veg now are 7 months old and huge! they are doin just fine and i expect to flower them after one year. i recently flowered a three year old and was a little disapointed in the yeild,i had mega colas but the weight wasnt there,5 ounces. but she wasnt in a hempy and in a 5 gal bucket. it seems that there was no dirt left from all the roots. all the ones i have harvested were still 90% green and i mean GREEN. they never ate themselves witch i thought was not good. makin new babies tonite and they will go in to the 2 gal(or 10 ltr) homes as soon as they're ready. there they stay till harvest and it works great.
sounds good man. I'm starting to find out that growing huge plants aren't really worth it for what we're trying to do. The time v/ yield is not what we had hoped it would be. Perpetual is great and I'll never go back, but I doubt I'll ever veg out a plant for longer then 8 weeks again.
osecretgardeno
Member
well said sir. i mean it's fun to flower out an old mom at some point, but it doesn't make a lot of sense to veg out for 3+ months.
peace, sg
tell me what ya think about these......
tell me what ya think about these......
i need honest oppinions here...they dont look good all of the suden and i cant figure out why.... View attachment mom 1.bmp
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what do ya's think?......tinman
tell me what ya think about these......
i need honest oppinions here...they dont look good all of the suden and i cant figure out why.... View attachment mom 1.bmp
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what do ya's think?......tinman
i guess it would help if ya'll had the particulars huh? i use flora nova and switched to flora series, ph is at 5.8-6.2 medium is 3 to 1 pearlite/vermiculite, i'm thinkin root bound as babies are in coffe cans and the two big ones r in 2 gal buckets and are like 7 mos old i feed them every two days, the bigger skunk is in a five gal bucket.i dunno maybe a humidity prob?
i guess the mama skunk aint in the pics! i'll try it again in a bit,my kid just found out her old boyfriend just died.............tinman
i guess the mama skunk aint in the pics! i'll try it again in a bit,my kid just found out her old boyfriend just died.............tinman
Tin-sorry to hear about the death.
As for the plants....to me, they don't look too bad. We are our own worst critics though. Perhaps you can weaken the strength of your nutirents and see what shapes up. Also, look at the new growth and tell me what you see. If the new growth is good, then good things are to come (IMO). Also, if you're worried about what's going on, flush and begin with the nutes again and see what you can come up with. I've had a couple of really bad looking plants that turned out some decent smoke. Good luck tin.
As for the plants....to me, they don't look too bad. We are our own worst critics though. Perhaps you can weaken the strength of your nutirents and see what shapes up. Also, look at the new growth and tell me what you see. If the new growth is good, then good things are to come (IMO). Also, if you're worried about what's going on, flush and begin with the nutes again and see what you can come up with. I've had a couple of really bad looking plants that turned out some decent smoke. Good luck tin.
dub...new growth looks good ill try the flush thing also. i took them out from under the lights and they dont look as bad?! took new clones today so i can play with these some. im beginin to agree with you and sg, i think im veggin too long. gunna try 8 weeks and see how it goes. thanx fer the help...i'll let you know how its going.
tinman
tinman
tin, when we started growing (a lickle while ago) we were bent on vegging out for a year on a few plants. We had a ton of clones and we were moving in one plant each week and removing one plant each week....the longer the plants took to veg = the more buds you got....however, there seemed to be window of opprotunity which closes (for us at about 2 months) and what we yield does not equal the time invested in such a long veg time. Now this is just what we can come up with on our end. I believe that SG will agree with me on this...I bet 8 weeks would be plenty of veg time for ya. Incidentally, we have one more plant that is going to be flipped on 4-20, and she is the last of the original cuts taken some time ago. She is in a 15gal. rubbermaid tote and has been LST'd like crazy. She's huge and moving her out of veg and into bloom is going to be a pain in the hind parts. If she is anything like her sister that was flipped two months before, she should yield about a pound, and that's great!!!, but to me it's not worth the time we have spent on her. Hope this helps out a bit.
Keep it green tinman.
Keep it green tinman.
dub, i still get small yields but i think it might be the strain. gettin ready to flower the super skunk mama this time around along with the two big moms.i will flip them when the clones take root in thier permanant home,2 gal buckets then i will veg them till i harvest and dry the ones in flower and will be flipped in about 8-9 weeks. i think yield will be what i normally get without the long veg time. the plants that are doin the best are in 2 gal buckets but have multi drain holes instead of one. i think that might make a bit of diff. sorry im so windy,i kinda miss bein on here but work is busy as get out!! thanx fer the help...tinman
