The New & Improved [ROLS MEGATHREAD].

[W89]

stunning stuff man, looks great! how you pull it off with your living conditions and churn out sexy buds is beyond me.

real quick, buddy and I are about to pull the trigger on this permaflex rubberized, paint on, water proofing material for the floors and walls (sealed room).

I'm a bit apprehensive thinking that there will be off gassing of some sorts, possibly killing our friendly microbes working hard below. he's thinking once it's cured it won't be a problem. pretty fiscally into this project and this will be my first time with organics, would hate to find out three months from now there was a problem. plus, it's expensive!

anyone much smarter than I able to check out the msds sheet and let me know if we're in the clear? Temps should remain in the 60-70ies, unless we lose power mid summer. much appreciated!

http://www.sanitred.com/shop/permaflex.html

Cheers mate, balls of steel help in times like these LOL!

Some of the stuff in the MSDS that caught my eye

CONDITIONS TO AVOID: Heat, high temperature, open flame, sparks, and moisture. Contact with incompatible materials in a closed system will cause liberation of carbon dioxide and buildup of pressure.

INCOMPATIBILITY (MATERIALS TO AVOID): This product will react with any material containing active hydrogens, such as water, alcohol, ammonia, amines, alkalis and acids, the reaction with water is slow under 50°C, but is accelerated at higher temperature and in the presence of alkalis, tertiary amines, and metal compounds. Some reactions can be violent. Material can react with strong oxidizing agents.

Does this mean when it's wet in the tub? or even when it's dry? Maybe you should email and ask coz if this is used in certain places like "growrooms" it could have negative effects but somewhere like outside on brickwork it wouldnt matter

 

[SilverSurfer_OG]

Continuing from the last ROLS thread here is my Kashmala Moon in her washing machine 'airpot'.



This one in a medium side plastic garbage bin with air holes drilled all over.




They are both going to be no-till i think.

 

[Cann]

those are really nice SSOG! how many weeks left you reckon?

 

[SilverSurfer_OG]

Hopefully get another 3 weeks out of the weather and they will be ready. They cope pretty well with wet weather and are nice and sticky which must help keep the moisture out.

But if april is really wet i might have to take drastic action...

Hopefully not they really fattened up last year last few weeks.

 

[Coba]

What size pot is that?

#5 from home depot.

 

[invocation]

Pictures are stunning everyone!

Let's talk beneficial insects for a moment. It's going to be getting very hot and dry soon and I want to be prepared for anything that comes from it ie mites and the like.

I've never used anything like except for nematodes. I'm looking mainly for thrip and mite protection. Hell even fungus gnat. Read about things like Hypoaspis, Phytoseiulus persimilis, Mesoseiulus longipes, Neoseiulus californicus, Galendromus occidentalis, Cucumeris etc. Anyone have those in their garden? I don't have any issues now but I would like to prepare. What can I use long term?

Hindu Blue

 

[Coba]

I don't know much about combating indoor insects... I haven't been lucky enough to encounter much.

I like to think it's because of the way I treat my recycled soil, in a way that is more than welcoming to all forms of life, the good, the bad and the ugly.

^Purple Peyote in ROLS not yet no-till

MM likes the rove beetle.

 

[Durdy]

SSOG - How's she smell! I need more information for bud porn addicted self!

 

[BlueJayWay]

Beautiful pictures everyone! This new thread is starting off as a real testament to how successful everyone is being at 'mimicking nature' - for those that have switched from either bottled nutes or chemi/hydro - are you noticing differences in trichome development - smells - tastes - etc etc??

I know I did

Invocation - I'm not familiar off the top of my head with those insect names - but I know people have success indoors with predatory mites - MM might be the person to talk to, he knows the species to use and it can vary from region to region, temperature fluctuations, bad infestation vs. minor infestations etc.

This name stands out as a predatory mite I believe I had looked into ordering at one point - Neoseiulus californicus.

I've been lucky enough though to not be bothered by mites or even PM at this location so haven't had the chance to try anything out really...

 

[BlueJayWay]

Hey that's weird, is this something new ICMAG is doing - defining words for us?

 

[invocation]

Beautiful pictures everyone! This new thread is starting off as a real testament to how successful everyone is being at 'mimicking nature' - for those that have switched from either bottled nutes or chemi/hydro - are you noticing differences in trichome development - smells - tastes - etc etc??

I know I did

Invocation - I'm not familiar off the top of my head with those insect names - but I know people have success indoors with predatory mites - MM might be the person to talk to, he knows the species to use and it can vary from region to region, temperature fluctuations, bad infestation vs. minor infestations etc.

This name stands out as a predatory mite I believe I had looked into ordering at one point - Neoseiulus californicus.

I've been lucky enough though to not be bothered by mites or even PM at this location so haven't had the chance to try anything out really...

Yep I switch over from "water" weed about a year ago. I love organics. You cannot beat the quality, effects, potency, and taste. I got a buddy of mine converted recently and he loves it.

I don't have bug problems yet but I'm one of those that love to be proactive. I do all the neem/karaja foliars but still I want that extra layer.

Maybe Gas or MM will chime in.....(buds)

 

[shmalphy]

I use Phytoseiulus persimilis, and Mesoseiulus longipes and they are awesome. You need a stable environment for them to out breed the spider mites. I haven't sprayed my plants with anything in months, which helps to avoid fungus problems in the cool damp winter.

I also have some native rove beetles doing work in there.

 

[invocation]

I use Phytoseiulus persimilis, and Mesoseiulus longipes and they are awesome. You need a stable environment for them to out breed the spider mites. I haven't sprayed my plants with anything in months, which helps to avoid fungus problems in the cool damp winter.

I also have some native rove beetles doing work in there.

I look into those but my fear getting those and they die cause they don't have anything to eat. I don't have any mites yet just figured I could get some good guys to hang out and wait.

This guys sounds great:

Hypoaspis miles feed upon small, soil inhabiting insects, mites, and all stages of springtails. Is primary a predator of fungus gnat larvae in the soil, but it also consumes thrips pupae on the floor and soil surface of the greenhouse. It is a scavenger and can feed on soil debris in the asence of thrips pupae and fungus gnat larvae. They are a native soil mite and can adapt to a variety of different growth media and capillary mats. They are less than 1 mm (1/20 inch) in size, light brown in color, and can be seen moving quickly on the soil surface and base of plants. Hypoaspis are used primarily for control of fungus gnats, but they also help with western flower thrips control.

 

[shmalphy]

I should have mentioned that I have native hypoapsis miles as well... TONS of them.

Seems like they all hang in the topsoil, and cracks and crevices of the room. They must be finding some sort of food to live off.

 

[W89]

Hey that's weird, is this something new ICMAG is doing - defining words for us?

I noticed that too, I thought I must have downloaded some pop-up or some sht but if you got it too then it's cool.. lol

 

[Durdy]

Has anybody used THIS product from EB stone? I'm interested in using it as a mulch, but am skeptical of the quality of their mushroom "compost" in the mix. Can't find information on where it is sourced from.

 

[Neo 420]

Pictures are stunning everyone!

Let's talk beneficial insects for a moment. It's going to be getting very hot and dry soon and I want to be prepared for anything that comes from it ie mites and the like.

Hypoaspis,

Hypoaspis Miles Mite
I have this beautiful creature in my garden. It is a fine companion to destroy the larvae of unwanted insects. You must have these prior to outbreaks. You will see them in the topsoil and around the rim. They are also fungi eaters so they won't starve if you have no insects. They like the same environment as MJ. Moist .. Not soggy or dry.. Perfect insect for us! I have other insects but I don't even try to identify anymore. They are welcomed in my garden..
I also have a insect/disease foilar spray system that has kept me issue free for since started

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=5576849&postcount=50
Neem, Si and Aloe Vera are used as my base. Getting temp for the emulsification is critical.

Will add in the below depending on the situation:
Lavender (Fresh,well blended and strained)
Thyme (Fresh,well blended and strained)
Rosemary (Fresh,well blended and strained)
Bio-ag Ful-powr
Kelp (soak and strain)
alfalfa (soak and strain)
Coconut water
Liquid seaweed

Some plants are sensitive to the mix and must have toned down versions created.
Spray every leaf (including undersides, stalks, etc)
I also rotate my aloe from the huge fillets to the medium sized red tipped variety (all fresh).

Crab and neem meal are in the recycled soil mix (chitin)

This has helped keep PM and unwanted insect away from garden. This regiment starts when clones are transplanted to recycle soil and stopped around 2 or 3 week into flowering.
The compounds/chemicals in a variety of my items are used for the "diseases suppression" and SARS activation capabilities as well as natural fungicides and insect deterrents. Must give credit to CC for it though....

When I was using chemi's I had to use eagle almost every run. Occasionally I to had to use imid products.
I once caught a slight case of PM on living soil plants but I was not using the concoction then. But since...Nothing..

I have used no other products (organic or not) with my regiment. I suspect using fresh, homegrown (living soil of course) plants as my ingredients only adds benefits to the mix.

Speaking of terpenes, my aroma's have been much stronger and pronounced. Resin development seems to activate faster with the use of my mix. This is all anecdotal of course.. Could be compounded with the living soil mix.?

Beautiful pictures everyone! This new thread is starting off as a real testament to how successful everyone is being at 'mimicking nature' - for those that have switched from either bottled nutes or chemi/hydro - are you noticing differences in trichome development - smells - tastes - etc etc??

Kinda touched a little on that with my the info above... The trich dev has been nutty for me. Much more resin. Smells are distinct, strong and aromatic.
The tastes? Ridiculous.. I wish I could share with you guys. Tasty on the exhale and inhale. Full of fuckin flavor... Its not even a comparison to what I did in the past. This shit is the real deal..

The effects? The highs come on gradually and hangs around for quite some time. And then hits you hard!! This all maybe strain related but I never seen shit like this when I did hydro, chem soil, RW, etcc
Its almost like smoking hash or oil cause that stuff make me really hungry and flower usually doesn't do that to me but all of last harvest flowers would induce this serious hunger in me.

ROLS for LIFE...Till the day I die.. And then my son takes over me.
Real talk folks...

 

[xmobotx]

I noticed that too, I thought I must have downloaded some pop-up or some sht but if you got it too then it's cool.. lol

so far the only defining i see is for 'trichome' <"plant hair" ~a little deceptive noobs could mistake 'plant hair' for the pistils

 

[Swayze]

Has anybody used THIS product from EB stone? I'm interested in using it as a mulch, but am skeptical of the quality of their mushroom "compost" in the mix. Can't find information on where it is sourced from.

Durdy,

I picked up some of their Planting Compost which, "Contains Composted Wood Shavings, Redwood Compost, Composted Chicken Manure, Mushroom Compost, Fir Bark, Bat Guano, Kelp Meal and Alfalfa Meal". It had some ammonia smell to it so I'm having my worms run through it. No info on the source of the mushroom compost.

 

[John Deere]

I've seen the little definition link things, too. Weird.

I've got 2 skunkman mix cuts that were run first with chems and then organic. I'll pull them out and do a side-by-side later tonight.