The Nevils Haze and Nevils Haze hybrids discussion thread.
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Stoneguru
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While waiting for @HEMPY's A5(2) picture there are still deductive trait allocations.
In the Nevil's haze population about 1/3 have the flat pressed leaf look.
This is not something I ever noticed in the numerous Male C dom lines nor NL. It's also shows up in the Bandaid haze.
These fan leaves with this trait are never particularly large which is consistent with some Outback haze as well. Male C fans can get quite large and more traditional NLD.
...This pressed leaf trait really doesn't show well in pictures, but now I can see it better in the classic catalog picture
the variegated Male C split leaf tends to show up in many hybrid lines at around 10% or more.
Surprisingly there is only one in Nevil's Haze and it has the pressed leaf look that I am associating with A5.
About 2/3 are not flat
On veg at least I would say current NH stock is not particularly Male C. Maybe Male A...maybe NL, but not so much Male C. Maybe this will change in flower or when select plants get rerun under normal conditions.
Overall under 10% have a stretch we normally associate with equatorial, but those definitely do.
Here are some random Nevil's hybrid mashup mutations.
Silk S x JJ's Nigerian . Nigerians father was out of an original 5C
(Edited: I looked and this is actually another b7×Silk)
B7 x Silk S
This particular plant is a great synergy and outstanding haze depth and complexity to the nose
Well Everyone got a drink
. It would be great to here more from others on trait identification.
Stay fertile and jah bless
In the Nevil's haze population about 1/3 have the flat pressed leaf look.
This is not something I ever noticed in the numerous Male C dom lines nor NL. It's also shows up in the Bandaid haze.
These fan leaves with this trait are never particularly large which is consistent with some Outback haze as well. Male C fans can get quite large and more traditional NLD.
...This pressed leaf trait really doesn't show well in pictures, but now I can see it better in the classic catalog picture
the variegated Male C split leaf tends to show up in many hybrid lines at around 10% or more.
Surprisingly there is only one in Nevil's Haze and it has the pressed leaf look that I am associating with A5.
About 2/3 are not flat
On veg at least I would say current NH stock is not particularly Male C. Maybe Male A...maybe NL, but not so much Male C. Maybe this will change in flower or when select plants get rerun under normal conditions.
Overall under 10% have a stretch we normally associate with equatorial, but those definitely do.
Here are some random Nevil's hybrid mashup mutations.
Silk S x JJ's Nigerian . Nigerians father was out of an original 5C
(Edited: I looked and this is actually another b7×Silk)
B7 x Silk S
This particular plant is a great synergy and outstanding haze depth and complexity to the nose
Well Everyone got a drink
. It would be great to here more from others on trait identification.Stay fertile and jah bless
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Come on, hempy. Now you're trying to change the subject because you've lost the discussion.
Here is the Quote from Nevil on the similarities between the Female Haze and HAZE A.
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Stoneguru
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"HzC accounts for 50% of the genetics, yet the predominant good pheno is the HzA type."
"HzC is sweeter and generally a better breeder because of this, otherwise male C and A are equal"
I thought this was interesting after my previous post just stated that the male C traits were less dominant in the current Nevil's Haze than other lines based of the original 5C release.
In adding to that. It is the lighter leaf NH male C look fan (for the most part) that do not have the pressed 5A fan.
Initially I suspected these would be more haze. They aren't stretching nearly as much as the darker leaf.
About HzA "people would often recoil if they came into a room where you had been smoking it"
In this and others quotes the male C comes through as the more palatable breeder.
Combining these 2 quotes it affirms what I have been saying for years about not being able to find the type I have been looking for and that it was not found in Nevil's Haze.
@HEMPY I don't know why you spent years arguing that it was there. I never read this quote, but I am sure you had. Nevil said bro
Anyway, it feels like progress to hear other findings.
The type I am looking for from the mid 90's was what was always said to be out of original 5haze. (Although @Yo Sammy your NL5 A/C from ~'91 had me wondering because this also would have fit the time line)
I have found all types of fruit, mango, metal, hard woods, sickeningly sweet floral decay, frankincense, eucalyptus...
The mango or "sweet" is the most common keeper on the male C side, but the type I am looking for is a more evasive outlier.
I have not found the sharp effervescent pine needle almost chemical. It's so bright that smelling a fresh flower flares up your nostrils so much you have to go back for air before smelling again. It's like fir needles almost industrial concentration.
There are components of it in these different types in the hazes I find, but never this type full forward.
Has anyone else found this nose burner? It's not NL. That is a different type of pine and the flower from the type I am referring to appears as an extreme haze.
-The Morphology was floating nodes what branching was anywhere on the stem. No leaf in flower.
-Needle thin stems coated in trichomes.
-calyxes a big as any grinspoon/phenotrigo, but normal helical bract pattern
-silver/platinum trichomes. Much larger than normal. visible without a loop or equivalent to ~3x
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CharlesU Farley
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That must have been after the Patriot Act, so it's one I've never heard of.
@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
How am I trying to change the subject Royal ?
I am fully a wear of the similarities of the first female and HzA and both the first female and the 5HzA2 shared the wispy buds.
Convenient how you and stoney ignored Dwight's post on the 5HzA.
@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
Where did I say I would post pictures of the 5HzA2 ?
Stoneguru
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In other things Nevil's haze
@bloyd 's 2 Johnny Blaze F1 '97 NH x B130 male pollen was collected. These 2 had big stretch. 3' out of Solo cups size. They came through as more pronounced male C notes and Morphology
The Pollen took of Dwights Outback Haze.
This is a special cross with 3 different elite '97 Nevil's Haze selections and 3 legendary old world Thai.
The long hand would look something like this with the exception of B130 because I don't know the order DJ selected, but did include a quote.
((NH21 x Hempy's Thai) × NH36)) × ((Legends '97 NH × ~((Chocolate Thai x Oaxacan)x Juicy fruit Highland Thai))~
It seems the Johnny Blaze make did haze a favorable amount of male C expression. This may pull the Nevil's haze from the male A again in some very unique ways
I imagine an OP of this could result in a lifetime of diverse haze adventures.
@bloyd 's 2 Johnny Blaze F1 '97 NH x B130 male pollen was collected. These 2 had big stretch. 3' out of Solo cups size. They came through as more pronounced male C notes and Morphology
The Pollen took of Dwights Outback Haze.
This is a special cross with 3 different elite '97 Nevil's Haze selections and 3 legendary old world Thai.
The long hand would look something like this with the exception of B130 because I don't know the order DJ selected, but did include a quote.
((NH21 x Hempy's Thai) × NH36)) × ((Legends '97 NH × ~((Chocolate Thai x Oaxacan)x Juicy fruit Highland Thai))~
It seems the Johnny Blaze make did haze a favorable amount of male C expression. This may pull the Nevil's haze from the male A again in some very unique ways
I imagine an OP of this could result in a lifetime of diverse haze adventures.
Stoneguru
Well-known member
In all of your responses to @RoyalFlush since you made this post a couple pages ago. (Unless you edited your responses)
Hempy "I don't have time to find it, but this should hold you over"
It's not a big deal either way, but now several people would like to see that as well.
I would for trait organization
@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
That is in relation to a specific post, so you're wrong as normal Stoney.
No, It's not a big deal, so why try and make it into one ?
I am not posting pictures I was asked to keep privet.
I love how you and Royal just ignore Dwight's post, lol
AmericanFarmer
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You mean the same Dwight you've been taking a shit on the last few post? The same guy you said was a liar who doesn't know what he's talking? That same Dwight?
Your delusional, hempy. 5HzA2 is on the 1990 catalog cover as confirmed by Nevil himself. Shantibaba has a record of posting pictures of plants that aren't what he says they are. The Fake HazeC picture is a good example.
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@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
In regard to my Thai, yes, Dwight does not have a clue, but he did see Nevil's Haze plants.
I know what Nevil told me, I also know what the post from Nevil said, and I will re find it and post it.
Why be a dick about this Royal ? I expected better from you.
I liked Dwight when I was first introduced to him after Nevil passed, but what I didn't expect was him posting lies about my Thai and then getting Stoney to post up his lies in my thread.
@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
Yes, he did post that.
Strange
