The Nevils Haze and Nevils Haze hybrids discussion thread.

[bigherb]

You base your selection on one main criteria Herb, and that is they affect and like it or not the ones with that affect are the long flowering plants.

Now for indoor growers there are ways to control and minimise or if you like control how the plant grows, to make it more practical, but that comes at a cost being yield but most of us grow for the high so an extra 4 or more weeks is not even a consideration it is what it is.

The above post you quote is from your friend Shanti or whomever wrote those descriptions on the Mr nice page .

Let's make it clear those are Not my words in the above quote it's mns description of NH

Soo you don't know exactly ,what I base my selections on because we've not had that discussion

I agree their are ways to manipulate the plant to grow indoors and id suggest to attempt it if your interested in Haze genetics
but that's another subject

Considering your optimism about growing these impractical plants indoors

Id like to remind you once again aswell as the community. Dont be afraid to experiment

Since your not very familiar with the Neville Haze description from Mns . I'll remind you the rest of the description recommends

Growing this strain indoors if your not 10 degrees from the equator

Well I'd say proudly and post pics again . Nevilles Haze I've grown 4 phenos outdoors in NYC during different years


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[@hempy]

Since your not very familiar with the Neville Haze description from Mns . I'll remind you the rest of the description recommends

Growing this strain indoors if your not 10 degrees from the equator

Well I'd say proudly and post pics again . Nevilles Haze I've grown 4 phenos outdoors in NYC during different years

I know Nevil's Haze very well.

The above post you quote is from your friend Shanti or whomever wrote those descriptions on the Mr nice page .

What post are you referring to herb ?

The only post I posted above was from Sam.

Growing this strain indoors if your not 10 degrees from the equator

Well I'd say proudly and post pics again . Nevilles Haze I've grown 4 phenos outdoors in NYC during different years

Really the last time I looked California the birthplace of Haze was what between 32° and 42° north.

 

[Tsubaki30]

Why would a plant because it flowered over 14 weeks ?

These plants are not the same as the released version.

MrNice really tell in their strain descriptions for many of their Haze hybrids that past 14 weekers are not desirable because of the long flowering time

It seems shantibaba made a decision to breed alot of the cleaner haze phenos out of there

It’s a shame he bread so much skunk and nl into mns haze lines and left alot of the cleaner haze expressions out

 

[@hempy]

I don't really follow what's posted over at the forum these days to be honest, or what people are currently growing out, I just go by what I grow. My seed are from very early stock, and Haze seems to have been bred by many towards the faster side over the past two decades.

I personally don't understand the logic of breeding away from the longer flowering, as that's what Haze is.

 

[Elmer Bud]

You didn't read the Mango Haze test seed thread, you're full of it, and you're only posting here to cause drama and to trash my thread.

You're so predictable, and it's sad that a grown man has the need to act the way you are here and have for a long time.

The current Mango Haze grow from my F2s has been fully documented and updated weekly from germination to now from the time they were put into flower all of it so those that have followed it know what I posted is fact.

This constant trolling and trashing of my threads in Icmag needs to stop.

Yes I did read the old Mango Haze test thread .
How else do I know the detail of JessE asking if it was OK to use his Parakeet guano ? LOL . !

That old web site was brought back and I read the tests that you and JessE did . No need to call me names I am telling you the truth .

 

[@hempy]

Yes I did read the old Mango Haze test thread .
How else do I know the detail of JessE asking if it was OK to use his Parakeet guano ? LOL . !

That old web site was brought back and I read the tests that you and JessE did . No need to call me names I am telling you the truth .

You only posted here to start drama like you always do, you posted and claimed it was at Over Grow I said no it was not sorry Elmer you have zero credibility from where I stand.

The F1 Mango Haze test seed flowered from 16 weeks and up, and from memory the longest to flower was 20/21 weeks, and she could have gone longer.

The F2s are long flowers, I have documented this your motivation here is clear, and I personally don't care what you think or do I want to interact with you.

 

[Elmer Bud]

You only posted here to start drama like you always do, you posted and claimed it was at Over Grow I said no it was not sorry Elmer you have zero credibility from where I stand.

Well that`d be par for the course .
You do like to tell people their experiences aren`t valid .

Doesn`t matter the name of the place I read the grow report . Like I said it was years ago and not important enough for me to memorise . But I did read it .

Back to the topic . I grew some Nevil`s Haze x Mango Widow made by BEANZ .
They were outstanding smokes . The combo of the Widow with the Haze made for very interesting effects .

 

[@hempy]

Well that`d be par for the course .
You do like to tell people their experiences aren`t valid .

Doesn`t matter the name of the place I read the grow report . Like I said it was years ago and not important enough for me to memorise . But I did read it .

Back to the topic . I grew some Nevil`s Haze x Mango Widow made by BEANZ .
They were outstanding smokes . The combo of the Widow with the Haze made for very interesting effects .

No, it does matter because YOU thought it was important enough to come here and post it right and try and disprove how long these flower for ?

Clear motivation by you and a consistent pattern of passive aggression directed towards me, and I am over it, that shit needs to end.

 

[Elmer Bud]

No, it does matter because YOU thought it was important enough to come here and post it right and try and disprove how long these flower for ?

Clear motivation by you and a consistent pattern of passive aggression directed towards me, and I am over it, that shit needs to end.

Yeah important enough to say I read it and there was a timer problem that you don`t wanna admit .
And to share my own experiences with Nevil`s Haze and crosses .

Nev Haze /Mango is another one I grew . I have grown a lot of Haze hybrids in the last dozen years .

 

[nick11]

Holy Hanh = (Nevil's Haze x AC) x Lieu Hanh [ AC = A5 x (Skunk #1 x Haze C) Lieu Hanh = Vietnamese Black x Nevil's Haze ]
(The Nev haze x AC) is from Shanti's grail project .

Face numbing stuff...Full incense to the max.

So where can I get this holy hanh strain? Never heard of it looks nice

 

[the_niño]

Neville’s brothers at 9.5 weeks

 

[CannaT]

Haze x widow are fire plants.

Well that`d be par for the course .
You do like to tell people their experiences aren`t valid .

Doesn`t matter the name of the place I read the grow report . Like I said it was years ago and not important enough for me to memorise . But I did read it .

Back to the topic . I grew some Nevil`s Haze x Mango Widow made by BEANZ .
They were outstanding smokes . The combo of the Widow with the Haze made for very interesting effects

 

[Elmer Bud]

Haze x widow are fire plants.

Probably the most outstanding Nevils Haze hybrids I have encountered were Chaco`s Sour Nevil .
ECSD x Nevil`s Haze . Devastatingly strong and sour lemon coating your mouth long after exhale .

 

[Stoneguru]

The Bandaid 7 x Silk S are putting out really unique compounding mutations. 2 meristem growing shoots coming from the same petiole

Similar increase in anomalies has happened when I crossed chem D variegation with Silk S.

Bandaid also has the variegated curl leaf like like Chem can. Bandaid 7 is Nevil's inbred and this trait increases from CBH. I believe the chems and all that came from them are original 5haze male to dog bud or an afgani.

How much more of the influential cannabis lines would then track back to Nevil's haze?

Silk S is loaded with mutations and displays different everytime, but going to Nevil's variegation tends to compound and increase this. There are theories.

This is one of the Nevil's Haze that haze a variegation patch similar to one that @StickyBandit found in Tom's posi

There are a couple more Nevils Haze with it more pronounced.

I associate these traits with Male C. Not because male A doesn't. Only because it is certain that male C does.

Overall there does seem to be an interrelationship between the variegation and meristem mutations.

It might get a lot weirder with some of these combinations.

The profiles coming off B7×Silk are top of the haze chart.

Loaded with refined haze complexity beyond Bandaid or Silk alone in most of them.

 

[nick11]

Probably the most outstanding Nevils Haze hybrids I have encountered were Chaco`s Sour Nevil .
ECSD x Nevil`s Haze . Devastatingly strong and sour lemon coating your mouth long after exhale .

Interesting I woulda thought widow would have watered it down. I'm not a big white widow fan it's quite bland. Never know with hybrids though sometimes it's a perfect match. Any shots?

I'm with you on sour d x anything Haze though. Sssdh comes to mind from rez years ago that was a good one too

 

[Stoneguru]

Probably the most outstanding Nevils Haze hybrids I have encountered were Chaco`s Sour Nevil .
ECSD x Nevil`s Haze . Devastatingly strong and sour lemon coating your mouth long after exhale .

I love that description! When diesel came on the scene I remember thinking the only time I had that chemical Pine tongue coating exhale with 5haze.

I never had its equal in a diesel, but I can image that the recombination could pull it all forward.

 

[nick11]

I love that description! When diesel came on the scene I remember thinking the only time I had that chemical Pine tongue coating exhale with 5haze.

I never had its equal in a diesel, but I can image that the recombination could pull it all forward.

Yes they do seem to compliment each other. Sour d with it's huge calyxes plus Haze foxtails equals good flowers

 

[Tsubaki30]

I associate these traits with Male C. Not because male A doesn't. Only because it is certain that male C does.

NL5 genetics also have variegated leaves. some plants have it quite badly

 

[nick11]

I'm curing a haze now with that sour sharp smell. I love sour smelling herb personally. It's a bagseed from a nh bud I grew. I guess possibly pollinated by a male idk. Taste is strange and bitter im not sure if I like it..

 

[Stoneguru]

Yes they do seem to compliment each other. Sour d with it's huge calyxes plus Haze foxtails equals good flowers

On profile The best diesel/chem cuts remind me of a type within male C that got chopped down to an earthy indica type.

On that haze type the stems were coated with trichomes as much as the flower all the way to the trunk. This trait can also be found in chem/diesels and little else.

The are ime these are selections back to this particular type within male C. With NL being in there and then potentially another BLD It's really hard to ever get a chem/diesel as refined as haze, but a diesel can be as equally as loud as the haze. Just not as clean or refined. Kinda Mucky.

@Elmer Bud description selects it back in a way that could more effectively clean it up though

By my luck this haze type is a ~1% or less... A person could grow hundreds of hazes and not find it ..or 1. There is no cannabis on earth that has a profile equal to what can be found in haze. Not that I've ever come across