The Nevils Haze and Nevils Haze hybrids discussion thread, Part 2.

[ojd]

Technically you don't  need to go in for the kill every time, my meateaer, but i know the drive to engage can be blinding...those on my ignore list think they're a part of my story..but they aren't...only when i engage...yes? Lots of stories out there don't have my input

So lets hear what you think here

You run Chocolope x i made and the Super Silver Sour Thai Nevil, both look way more exotic than Dwight's Outback, a Chocolope x ? , obviously yours lean heavy Sativa but Nevil's ultimate Grail Sativa and my Chocolope x comes out more Sativa/exotic looking
Yes it was crossed with a Nevil Haze 23 x Kariba African but man , Nevil's ultimate Sativa ( and the Outback Haze is All THAT , trust me) but my Chocolope hybrid way more exotic looking, no way

 

[ojd]

Technically you don't  need to go in for the kill every time, my meateaer, but i know the drive to engage can be blinding...those on my ignore list think they're a part of my story..but they aren't...only when i engage...yes? Lots of stories out there don't have my input

But bro these Genetics are very special, and Nevil has passed and only a few talk or even know about the Outback Haze, the legendary New Nevil Haze, so info needs to be well documented, and people not led up the garden path.

Stone thinks dwight is Nevil reincarnated or something , or treats him like it , gives him lapdances every day

 

[mudballs]

yes, your lines have expressed more tropical exotic lean than these pictured. The pictured flower clusters have stubby, somewhat waxy looking sugar leaves...yours I've grown do not display the stubby sugar leaf phenos..all heavy open sativa, real wild plot look to them...those pictured, outback, just had a different sensimellia sister chosen for continuation...nothing to see here moooove along yall...dont have to go home but you cant stay here..

 

[ojd]

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We can discuss this here, OJD that way were not trashing Morphs Tom Hill thread.

The Plant Dwight has of the Outback Haze looks nothing like my Thai, but it does look like some of the Nevils Haze plants, and It has the HzC type flowers.

Nevils Haze 36 is what I call a HzC type.


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Also just for the record , these Nevil Haze 36 look the least Sativa or interesting pics to me, ive seen for a Grail Sativa project. ( apart from Dwights Outback)


Also post up some pics of your Thai so we can see all 3 plants used , i posted the NH21 pic , you posted 36 , lets have your Thai pic , then we got all 3 strains in this thread that made the Legendary Outback Haze.

 

[mudballs]

Idk man..like i said, it's just another persons passionate creation and im not the type to inject myself into their life in a jugmental fashion

 

[ojd]

Also just so its clear, im not saying anything bad about the Outback Haze strain in general, blew me and my crew away .

Honestly the Grail project blew me away , and im definitely a pessimist and never thought it would live up to the hype of Nevil's old famous strains, but so many of the strains blew me away

Swiss thai nevil
Nevil Haze 23 x Kariba
Outback Haze

These 3 were my favourites, and very special and as good as the famous Dutch clones Nevil left in Holland in 90's that ar still around today

 

[ojd]

Also another thing people been spouting these days is that Haze is in chemdog and Sour Diesel, Never EVER , yes NL maybe never Haze .

I grown Haze/Chemdog/Diesel genetics extensively for decades , searched out everything and never ever had a Haze

1 chemdog clone only had a lemon/pine thing like some NL's do .

Just throwing it out there as this a Haze thread.

 

[nepalnt21]

Haze is in chemdog and Sour Diesel, Never EVER , yes NL maybe never Haze .

i think it was notsodog and matt from rs (in a podcast) that suggested chem4 might have nl/haze in it, but i think i fucked up in a thread (i was probably high af n stardawg at the time) and brought up haze in the the chem91 discussion.

incidentally, according to todd mccormick, and apparently seattle greg, chem 91 (and og kush) are northern lites or have major NL in them ... and i think notso and matt in that same podcast said they thought it was at least plausible iirc.

 

[ojd]

i think it was notsodog and matt from rs (in a podcast) that suggested chem4 might have nl/haze in it, but i think i fucked up in a thread (i was probably high af n stardawg at the time) and brought up haze in the the chem91 discussion.

incidentally, according to todd mccormick, and apparently seattle greg, chem 91 (and og kush) are northern lites or have major NL in them ... and i think notso and matt in that same podcast said they thought it was at least plausible iirc.

Yeah I hear many people say Haze's from nevil are in Chemdog/Diesel , I've never seen anything like that, growing and breeding with Chemdog/Diesel for over 15 years, not 1 phenotype at all.


But many people jumping on that these days , I seen piffcoast farm clip of a podcast and they had a guest saying the Nevil thing , others saying no can't be , but yeah NL I can see , maybe

 

[nepalnt21]

i can't shake the terpene profile they posted on todd's website where the og kush terp profile looks quite a lot their purest indica or NL2 (i forget which) terp results, it's so perfect that it's almost fishy, but i have no reason atm to think they are fake test results cause they also look quite a bit like og kush and even some chem results i've seen myself.

shit, sorry... this is a nev haze thread lol i'm off track

 

[@hempy]

Nevil set out to do that, and his friend takes his ultimate Grail and hits it with NL ?

Also nobody can see anything from that outdoor flower pic , a few hairs.

A Haze Traits to look for

1.Extreme dark Orange hairs

2.Early Orange hairs through flowering , way Early leaving you to think room has been pollinated

3.Much more closed flowers than Haze pics ive posted of C5 , C5 colas ( look closely at pics) made up of all foxtails making a large cola , A Haze more tips foxtails on denser buds but not SSH dense colas, a unique dense and spaced out buds

4.Spicy smells , no Lemon lime or Pine ( again I'm talking a near pure A Haze trait) combinations like most of the famous clones have hints of both but more dominated by 1 ( A5 hybrids more Spices etc) most famous A hybrids still have a subtle Pine but 90% plus Exotic Colombian spices , pepper , Incense, Frankincense

What 5HzA hybrids are you talking about mate the only one that I know of is the 5HzA(2) the mother of Nevils Haze, and she looks just like the pic I posted on page one.

Nevil made arrangements to have clones that the Holland crew had to be sent to him here, and they were never sent but showed up else where. I asked Nevil about these clones, and he told me he had them send flower samples of the cuts and after smoking the flowers Nevil no longer wanted them. The reason for that was they had either lost their spark or were not the same clones Nevils exact wards.

The differences in the HzA and HzC types are night and day, and now I can even pick them well before they flower.

 

[@hempy]

The Outback Haze was in Nevils opinion one of the best hybrids he made in decades, but it was not the Grail, as I said the Grail was about taking Haze to the next stage of evolution if you like. Not long after he finished the work on the Outback, Nevil had serous health issues.

I know he made many lines that were never released, some of those were with my Thai he called Thia and some of those were MM or Oaxacan crosses.

Nevil was also heavily involved in a Medical cannabis company.

 

[@hempy]

The differences between HzA types and HzC types is night and day as I said and the HzA types are the ones that are more sensitive to feeding and are what some growers would call not practical for indoors.

But there are things you can do to make them more practical indoors, the main one being the flower times.

The HzC type's have a classic Colombian look to them.

The HzA types have a Thai look to them.

 

[Cvh]

This thread's a continuation of the first thread that got closed, still cant remember why that was.

This thread.

The Nevils Haze and Nevils Haze hybrids discussion thread.

I thought it be a good idea to have a thread were people can come and discuss Nevils Haze work old and new under one roof. Please keep it on topic and stay out if your only going to cause drama. like it or not Nevil has a huge fan base and many people still grow his work.

www.icmag.com

I thought instead of seeing other unrelated threads being filled with posts about Nevils Work, they could have their own home.

I reopened that thread Hempy. Feel always free to contact us if you want something reviewed. Cheers

 

[@hempy]

These Nevils Haze were grown under 11/13.

The HzC types on the left the HzA types on the right.

HzC type flower close up.

HzA type close up.

 

[@hempy]

I reopened that thread Hempy. Feel always free to contact us if you want something reviewed. Cheers

Thanks CvH very much, appreciated.

 

[the_niño]

The Outback Haze was in Nevils opinion one of the best hybrids he made in decades, but it was not the Grail, as I said the Grail was about taking Haze to the next stage of evolution if you like. Not long after he finished the work on the Outback, Nevil had serous health issues.

I know he made many lines that were never released, some of those were with my Thai he called Thia and some of those were MM or Oaxacan crosses.

Nevil was also heavily involved in a Medical cannabis company.

Do you know if anyone got any of the lines with MM or Oaxacan crosses?

 

[@hempy]

The differences are night and day, but what I love about the differences is how I can pick the type of smoke I want, and I can search and pick a classic old school Colombian type of affect, or I can search and pick out an old school Thai type of affect.

All we're seeing is the ancestral types that went into creating Haze pop up that's it you see it in Toms Haze you see it or did in O Haze less so now as that's been steered more to the Colombian side but regardless if you dig hard enough they will come to the surface.

That's why I love Haze you can dig up the best of the past.

 

[@hempy]

Do you know if anyone got any of the lines with MM or Oaxacan crosses?

I know he wouldn't release the Oaxacan x MM, but he did release some MM hybrids, and I am prity sure some Oaxacan crosses to, but I would need to go back and look at what they were.

All the early Thai hybrids were made with the Gypsy Thai, those were the first Thai hybrids, then came what I call the Reeferman Thai hybrids. My Thai was only released in the Outback Haze.

In the MM hybrids, you had the long MM and short MM short being shorter flower and long longer flowering.

 

[the_niño]

I know he wouldn't release the Oaxacan x MM, but he did release some MM hybrids, and I am prity sure some Oaxacan crosses to, but I would need to go back and look at what they were.

All the early Thai hybrids were made with the Gypsy Thai, those were the first Thai hybrids, then came what I call the Reeferman Thai hybrids. My Thai was only released in the Outback Haze.

In the MM hybrids, you had the long MM and short MM short being shorter flower and long longer flowering.

Oh nice, any idea if anything with the oax crosses are available anywhere?