Then they should seriously consider giving up.
Before my first post here, I read the title to EVERY thread on this forum, checked every thread that seemed to apply, read and book marked every thread that did apply. Then I did it again.
My reward, beyond my Mentor and Mod badges, is I now measure colas against my forearm rather than my thumb. How bad do you want to learn?
I can not stand paying 189 and 38 bucks for shipping.