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The Haze Hybrid Thread
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You are wrong
As darkstorm has said . It was a typo , Nevil posted a direct reply if I recall to me at Mns forum . Nl1 x HzC
The post is still up , I have it somewhere.
There was no female Haze used for commercial production of seed . Nor was HzA used for commercial production. Nothing sold on the open market
Don’t believe everything you read in advertising. Why don’t you pull up the Nl5HzC description that the Haze seed was salavaged from the last crops in America . Which is the origin of the stock 69 or 81 ?
Also La Niña first HzB then MM , this is life . It happens, it happened
1luvbigherb
Many have listed the crosses incorrectly. Anytime a cross is listed the pollen source is always put last. Ive seen many put that 1st. It can make a huge difference when doing that.
TheDarkStorm
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Sam recived the last of the stock in 81...wich is wat was written and credited...no other details were given till nevil gave a insight in to why he wanted to use certain stock an why he was looking for certain things to match...being given a bag and being told that was collected in 81 by sam an those are the last of the seeds are wat happened....an then being told its a pure strain....wich it obviously wasnt....the obeservations and details were kept private till much later....but some people just see wat they want...
Thank you Hammerhead!!!
And thank you bsgospel ... that's why I posted it. My first two females were/are tall fluffy monsters. I was thrilled when I saw this develop.
I will most certainly post updates as we go.
I’m not sure where you got this information but this is false
Nevil said he got bags labeled 69-71/72 . If I recall he said Sams mentioned burning Bush was an ancestor to his seed stock . Nevil never posted anything about 81 seed stock ( nor Sams) . I didn’t question Nevil because my intention was to hear his side of the story not raise doubt on any contradictions
All the post are still on the net
Here is a recent one from Sams below
1luvbigherb
are you saying the seeds nevil grew from sam labelled haze , were not pure darkie?
can you elaborate on that ??
which seeds ??
i recall a post from nevil saying something was a half sister at best , but then that is not accounting for the fact that cannabis is quite diverse and throw backs to previous generations is quite possible , also being a 3 way hybrid that was never stablized , only reproduced , there is bound to be the odd plant that varies to all the others , that could explain the one plant that didnt seem to fit couldnt it ??...
:yay:
Thai Haze x Skunk 1.
I've heard of that, lol
I've heard of that, lol
TheDarkStorm
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How is it false...sam already said he collected the pure haze stock of the guys in 80-81
Its in nevils catalogue the stock was collected by the guy he got it off in 81...look harder the info is there...sam even done a listing of the stock which you've seen around the time he got the stock..wich youve seen..go ask him
TheDarkStorm
Well-known member
Pure means wat Donald..eg a pure land race...ie not a hybrid....do you think haze is pure...was it ever pure...I doubt it..no hermie no day neutrals....with the amount of work been done something representing faults in a pure landrace would have popped up...it hasnt...its a hybrid thats been bred by someone who clearly knew wat they wer doing...ot1 had 3 other unrelated haze lines...the guys at ace went through one of these aswell and were amazed too at how the line had been bred..
The rest is pretty obvious..sory maha dont mean to take your thread in unnecessary directions...so back to thread.
TheDarkStorm
Well-known member
Nice sub24...you have a branch off a plant to the middle far right of this picture..looks darker green an smaller buds..is that a different plant ?
i think you know what i mean man ,
pure as in its the variety that was labelled haze with no more genetics added to it ,
sam has repeatedly said the haze brothers were not breeders ,
they threw together 3 different colombian strains that was called haze at the end
then it was inbred by folks who as sam said are not breeders ,
he has also said all he did was try to preserve the variety ...
so the next guy growing them shouldnt be surprised that the odd plant doesnt look exactly like all the others ,
its quite possible in fact and kinda points to the grower to being a little naive with his expectations ...
i have no idea what ot1 has or did , its not relevant to what we are talking about which is seeds directly from sam to nevil ...
btw the thread isnt started by maha , its raho who began the thread ...
TheDarkStorm
Well-known member
My apologies to raho...
Donald they told big herb something completely different to wats sams said..to big herb they said it was pure...pure punto rojo....one of the guys didnt even grow let alone chuck pollen.. his woman grew for him...I dont think they know exactly wat it is themselves....did the results come back off phylos for haze. ?
Yes the plant in the front is mmxnh21 the back two are from Sam and they are o. Haze x Hawaiian indica and the o. Haze/love potion x original haze/ skunk.
Brother I’m not sure who you know in Holland or who you are but Nevil spoke . Why don’t you quote his post with your post . You can’t they won’t match up
I also ask you to quote my article or text with what you say , who ever said that their women grew for them ???????????
At one point I didn’t respond to you
My main intention is to let the community know not to believe everything posted is fact . You can’t provide quotes with your post . I can’t provide facts in the flesh but I can quote the legends post
Haze is punto rojo - a Colombian bag seed crossed to itself
Yes the story I was told is abit different then Sams , if you follow history his version comes from J n Rl not G . Do you even know who J is ? I doubt it
G was the creator of Original Haze it started in 69 Sams didn’t even smoke Haze until 71 . The post are all on the net , you can believe as you wish . I’m Thankful to all mentioned
Sams preserved the original Haze from seeds he collected from both brothers G n RL and worked them in 76 and further in Holland . Nevils stock is from Sams seeds he preserved. This is the story this is what the community should know . I’m only repeating myself
1luvbigherb
nevertheless ,
the word "pure" seems to be a problem for some ,
you know what i meant by it , pure haze , meaning unadulterated after sam collected it and called it what it is ...
a bunch of stoners are unreliable as far as accurate information goes , we see it all the time , its nothing new...
sometimes we can only go on what we are told , because if we were not there , its all we have ....
thats why i laugh about folks being so sure where the pot they had came from when its their dealer that told them ,
those guys are worse than the average stoner ,
they dont give accurate information because it can bring them undone ...
