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I cant wait to see what the 1990 OH looks like in flower. Nothing to update on those. Still look like there in veg at 60 days
60 DAYS THH
Just 1 OH or a few? At 60 days they should be showing blooms...
There are 2 1990 OH and 2 THH.. Both OH have tiny pistils all over but no real flower development. 1 is under the Diablo 650 LED the other is under a GC 630 CMH. I see no difference between them
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@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
Nevil Haze F1s take around 9 weeks or over to show pre flowers or as i call it sex.
My F2s from memory took over 7 weeks .
Hammers OH and later THH are what i would expect as normal.
I would say slow flower that's a good thing w/haze.....seems mac is crossing everything to his 90 OHz male
That 90 hz must be something to it
I also have a THH male that has been in flower for the same 60 days. Much shorter than the female but just as slow to flower. He is in the male 5x5 tent with a GC 420 LED.
SativaScience
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Really? Haven't read that before. Do you remember where you read that? Interested...
SamS told us it was 50/50
I argued the female is what we are really interested in and what we know best which makes it more of an influence
Apparently its a science thing where it is equal
The phenotypes we see are generally identified in the female plants
There are male pheno differences but only through progeny testing on a female will the real contrasts come to light
Anyway technically its 50/50
I argued the female is what we are really interested in and what we know best which makes it more of an influence
Apparently its a science thing where it is equal
The phenotypes we see are generally identified in the female plants
There are male pheno differences but only through progeny testing on a female will the real contrasts come to light
Anyway technically its 50/50
@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
Using the Y Chromosome to Investigate Ancestry
The DNA in mitochondria – an organelle in the cell that produces energy – are used for genetic studies involving maternal lineage because the mitochondria has its own DNA distinct from the nuclear DNA, and we inherit mitochondrial DNA from our mothers only.
But since most of the Y chromosome is passed on without recombination, the DNA on that chromosome provides a genetic history of a man’s paternal ancestral line.
This part of the Y chromosome does not recombine sexually with the X chromosome during reproduction — meaning that when a father contributes a Y chromosome to the process of sexual reproduction, most of the genes on that chromosome don’t “mix” with the genes on the X. In genetic terms, they’re passed on asexually.
While genetic recombination allows for the expression of diverse traits in offspring, the mostly linear transmission of the Y chromosome isn’t necessarily a bad thing. In fact, that trait has allowed scientists to understand the history of male ancestry.
The DNA in mitochondria – an organelle in the cell that produces energy – are used for genetic studies involving maternal lineage because the mitochondria has its own DNA distinct from the nuclear DNA, and we inherit mitochondrial DNA from our mothers only.
But since most of the Y chromosome is passed on without recombination, the DNA on that chromosome provides a genetic history of a man’s paternal ancestral line.
This part of the Y chromosome does not recombine sexually with the X chromosome during reproduction — meaning that when a father contributes a Y chromosome to the process of sexual reproduction, most of the genes on that chromosome don’t “mix” with the genes on the X. In genetic terms, they’re passed on asexually.
While genetic recombination allows for the expression of diverse traits in offspring, the mostly linear transmission of the Y chromosome isn’t necessarily a bad thing. In fact, that trait has allowed scientists to understand the history of male ancestry.
SativaScience
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Ah ok, i understand what you meant with your initial comment now. Thanks...
That's true
however, I think your other statement about male side holding most of the ancestry is factually incorrect
50/50 ancestry influence
I really dont think people really mull over this sort of thing.... Its just pollen is available and it goes on the females in right stage of flower
People like SamS and possibly a hand full of people can have space and legality much less funds to even think out what side contributes more male or female
Apparently its 50/50
And they use the males because you can hit it to everything
It would be interesting scientific study on the influence from male on female To record which phenos come up ...male/female vs female/male
I dont know how many people have done that study but it seems SamS in his experience likes using the haze males
@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
Nevil was who first told me about the males carrying the ancestral information.
It then made seance after i did a little research on it.
That's true
however, I think your other statement about male side holding most of the ancestry is factually incorrect
50/50 ancestry influence
I really dont think people really mull over this sort of thing.... Its just pollen is available and it goes on the females in right stage of flower
People like SamS and possibly a hand full of people can have space and legality much less funds to even think out what side contributes more male or female
Apparently its 50/50
And they use the males because you can hit it to everything
It would be interesting scientific study on the influence from male on female To record which phenos come up ...male/female vs female/male
I dont know how many people have done that study but it seems SamS in his experience likes using the haze males
yea im pretty sure you are correct too hg,
50/50,
wouldnt make sense for it to be any other way ,
as far as i know its not whether you use a male across a female ,
or visa versa , its more about the plants and how they combine with each other , not as much which sex they are ,
i dont think there is any equation where it says male cannabis plants dominate over the females ,
if it was always the case , feminised seeds produced without males would be a blunder it seems to indicate ...
lets face it , females are easier to select , then its as u say , just growing progeny from specific males to find out which combination was the best ....
It would be great if it was no big deal to do the detailed experiments needed without clandestine gardening
Good to see some really decent size plants on here I do believe it makes a difference In genetics and final product
And you know these imports were grown huge all season in the mountains
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Good to see some really decent size plants on here I do believe it makes a difference In genetics and final product
And you know these imports were grown huge all season in the mountains
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@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
That's true
however, I think your other statement about male side holding most of the ancestry is factually incorrect
50/50 ancestry influence
I really dont think people really mull over this sort of thing.... Its just pollen is available and it goes on the females in right stage of flower
People like SamS and possibly a hand full of people can have space and legality much less funds to even think out what side contributes more male or female
Apparently its 50/50
And they use the males because you can hit it to everything
It would be interesting scientific study on the influence from male on female To record which phenos come up ...male/female vs female/male
I dont know how many people have done that study but it seems SamS in his experience likes using the haze males
How is it incorrect ?.
The Y chromosome is passed on without recombination, the DNA on that chromosome provides a genetic history of a man’s paternal ancestral line.
Do you know what that means ?. It means the male passes on a genetic history of a males paternal ancestral line.
Only Males do that.
Females dont.
Why Sam and Nevil both said use the Haze male to out cross with.
Well that may be true for human beings but plants operate a little different right?
heres the thread in question you can read up on it whether you agree I am only defaulting to people who like SamS has grown enough plants at once and was paying attention
https://www.icmag.com/forum/marijua...male-pass-on-more-genetics-to-their-offspring
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heres the thread in question you can read up on it whether you agree I am only defaulting to people who like SamS has grown enough plants at once and was paying attention
https://www.icmag.com/forum/marijua...male-pass-on-more-genetics-to-their-offspring
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