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The Haze discussion thread
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.......... and don't bother playing 'THAT' card as it's transparent, I can see straight through it!
He's already dead!
FYI.. THAT LAST PIC I POSTED WITH THE EC AND PH INFO WAS 1990 ORIGINAL HAZE LOL...
I never said they did. You always read shit no one ever posted.. Doesn't matter what we grow. If our plants are not happy it's our fault, not theirs. If you can grow well and can spot issues quickly you won't have any issues. This is a fact. If you cant do this your not a good grower IMO. When I post real results of how I feed showing healthy plants only you would find that un helpful. It is typical for you to post total nonsense. Its pretty obvious any that know cannabis well doesn't care what you think, its wrong most of the time anyway. You do add entertainment all the time
PLEASE DON'T TURN THIS THREAD INTO MORE POLITICAL CRAP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You can disagree all you want. the truth is in the pudding. If toy cant grow Haze indoor without clawing you you need more practice. More people over water indoor than any other issues. That is a fact. Ive never seen a haze claw outdoor. Its our fault it happens 100%.. IMO its mostly caused by over watering. I never said its the only reason. Lots of people use way to much EC. That's a different conversation, imo 1.2EC is plenty in soiless medium prove me wrong. You can have your own opinion. I posted mine.
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ToddMcCormick
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My apologies, I did not mean any disrespect to this website or anybody, I just did not know how to defend my reputation without confronting the situation head on.
That said, I hope everybody has a good day.
RingtailCanyon
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Brother OldSchool you are not listening close enough. Dave says that 1 guy in SC hills grew 3 colombian lines and crossed them. Green, “punto Rojas”(purple) and a mauve. Another guy helped him. This guy also made The Haze poster. The initial Colombian hybrid gave great vigor until it was inbred. (Todd’s version?) They moved down to SC.
Dave gave them Thai and they used it and then he gave them Indian and they used it. Dave preferred the Thai version. (Positronic version, Tom??) He says he doesn’t know which version Nevil got. He was friends with other seed companies like Flying Dutchmen and hinted that he supplied them with seeds. He also says haze is inbred and low potency and needs to be hybridized to restore vigor.
ArtOfSelection
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Many thanks for posting this ....great to hear from SAM in person... Fascinating stuff .......from what Sam said ..(whether its actually the truth or not, is not for me to say) ...... but,..id have to assume that actually ace's old timers haze is the truest to type 'haze' ...altho its chronically inbread ..it certainly fits the profile of been mostly/pure Columbian with both green and purple phenos .........the haze plot thickens
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This is a post below of mine with Sams replies
Sams
Do you still have any OHaze seeds from G ? If soo have you tried to germ them ? NO I HAVE NONE LEFT JUST OFFSPRING.
From your post I assume Nevils Haze was from pure Lumbo correct? YES.
Nevil said you told him burning bush was an ancestor of his seed stock he acquired , the 66-70 dates labeled on Nevils seeds he acquired from you was a BS story ? NOT SURE BUT BURNING BUSH WAS PURE OHAZE I GREW AND NAMED.
The fact he got 7 seeds to pop out of thousands from 85 stock don’t sound right . But you would know best THE SEEDS I SOLD HIM HAD A VERY HIGH GERM RATE, HE DID NOT EVER GROW THOUSANDS FROM SEEDS HE GOT FROM ME AS FAR AS I KNOW.
Soo all the OHaze you sold to seedsman TFD positronics was pure Colombian? YES UNLESS SOLD AS A HAZE HYBRID.
The emphasis all these years folks have made on thai association to OHaze is funny I GAVE BOTH RL AND G THAI SEEDS I GOT FROM GOLDEN OFF THE STICK THAI THAT WAS FANTASTIC IN MAYBE 75 IN SC. THEY MADE A FEW HYBRIDS BUT G LIKE THE PURE OHAZE BETTER AND DID NOT USE THEM AGAIN, RL LIKED THEM BUT DID NOT KEEP CLONES SO THEY WERE GONE PRETTY QUICK, THE SAME WITH S INDIAN, KERALA. I MADE MORE HYBRIDS AS I FOUND THEM INTERESTING.
It seems you answered this already but I don’t understand, you never sold any Haze x Thai / S.indian as OHaze . But you said burning bush was OHaze with a strong Thai influence
Is burning bush Colombian x Thai ? Or pure Lumbo ? NO THAI IN IT.
I love details I appreciate you sharing more with us and setting some things straight, your wife manicuring and details of Nevils stock
I hope this future OHaze project comes to fruit and we can possibly have a taste or access to a representation from someone who knows it best
TIME WILL TELL.
-SamS
Much Respect
1luvbigherb
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Stop believing everything you read . Sams was on the scene two years or Soo after the creation and knows the guys involved in the creation and history of the Original Haze .
Aside from Sams No one else currently posting has any first hand knowledge. After the crossing of Original Haze to Thai and S.Indian it was not OHaze . Remember it was only one year and it was only by R.L who was not the originator but a partner some years later because of his greenhouse
Btw the guy who helped G in the mountains (j) was not the same guy who created the poster (RL)
Believe what you wish , The Thai = Haze bs / 3 way lumbo or Punto Rojo . But let’s not rewrite the history , just enjoy whatever’s you like and what’s available
Btw there’s several more detailed post from Sams in relation
To the Original creation and additional genetics
1luvbigherb
@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
FYI.. THAT LAST PIC I POSTED WITH THE EC AND PH INFO WAS 1990 ORIGINAL HAZE LOL...
I never said they did. You always read shit no one ever posted.. Doesn't matter what we grow. If our plants are not happy it's our fault, not theirs. If you can grow well and can spot issues quickly you won't have any issues. This is a fact. If you cant do this your not a good grower IMO. When I post real results of how I feed showing healthy plants only you would find that un helpful. It is typical for you to post total nonsense. Its pretty obvious any that know cannabis well doesn't care what you think, its wrong most of the time anyway. You do add entertainment all the time
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I know what you posted and i know what i responded with so dont make this personal Hammer.
Like it or not Sativas being grown and feed nutrients dont like full feeding once they start to flower and they all vary in what they like.
We are here to share information and keep it real are we not ?.
Some Sativa lines need half strength feeding from the start of flowering other sativas may need 1/4 strength feeding some on the extreme side only need water from early flower until harvest.
I documented all i say in my grow threads over the years how many sativas or heavy sativa lines have you grown Hammer.
I dont care what you think hammer pictures dont lie people do and people that like to put others down normally have agendas whats yours ?.
Nope, Pic don't lie. We can see everything I've grown since we rolled into ICMAG from overgrow 13 years ago. Most everything has been documented here. We can see the THH and 1990 OH im growing now. We shall see how that turns out wont we. It will be documented down to the feed, PH and feed frequency used. Growing a Sat doesn't change what I feed, they all get the same. Rarely do my plants suffer from the same feed. I couldn't tell ya how many I've grown I lost count years ago. You forget many of us are older than you or at least in our 60's. I've most likely grown more varieties than you ever have or will since you only grow haze.. Keep trying someday you might be a good grower
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@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
Nope, Pic don't lie. We can see everything I've grown since we rolled into ICMAG from overgrow 13 years ago. Most everything has been documented here. We can see the THH and 1990 OH im growing now. We shall see how that turns out wont we. It will be documented down to the feed, PH and feed frequency used. Growing a Sat doesn't change what I feed, they all get the same. Rarely do my plants suffer from the same feed. I couldn't tell ya how many I've grown I lost count years ago. You forget many of us are older than you or at least in our 60's. I've most likely grown more varieties than you ever have or will since you only grow haze.. Keep trying someday you might be a good grower
Hammer most know sativas are not heavy feeders this information didn't just come down in the last rain mate.
I have grown more than just Haze i have spent over 40 years growing and focusing on sativas because i love them not because there now starting to become popular.
Any one that knows me has followed my posts for the decades i have been posting would know i dont like smoking indicas this is not a secret.
OK IF YOU SAY SO IT MUST BE TRUE
.. let's just move along and see how much I screw these hazes up .
@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
OK IF YOU SAY SO IT MUST BE TRUE
No one said you were going to screw the haze grow up Hammer poor hammer making it all about him now.
:yay:
I will say that some sativas DO need a definite ec adjustment(less ec) and I have grown landraces in the past that just didn’t need hardly any fertilizer, I was incredibly surprised, just grew in the clay soil here barely amended. That was the exception though.I shouldn’t have stepped in this hornets nest though probably lol.
Just my experience, everyone’s is different.
peace
P. S. You both grow good weed, look at all of hammerhead grows very consistent, more than mine lol.
P.p.s. I know hammerhead well grow them just like the others. Really well
Nope, Pic don't lie. We can see everything I've grown since we rolled into ICMAG from overgrow 13 years ago. Most everything has been documented here. We can see the THH and 1990 OH im growing now. We shall see how that turns out wont we. It will be documented down to the feed, PH and feed frequency used. Growing a Sat doesn't change what I feed, they all get the same. Rarely do my plants suffer from the same feed. I couldn't tell ya how many I've grown I lost count years ago. You forget many of us are older than you or at least in our 60's. I've most likely grown more varieties than you ever have or will since you only grow haze.. Keep trying someday you might be a good grower
You are an alien Hammerhead your plants always look dark green almost on the brink of over feeding but you never cross that thin line
He rides the thin line like hunter s Thompson on a Ducati
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I would smoke any of hammers grows
heh
also for hempy I’m sure if you feed so heavy in veg you don’t need anywhere near as much to finish flowering as the nutrients are built up.
more than one way to do something.
the edge
I would smoke any of hammers grows
heh
also for hempy I’m sure if you feed so heavy in veg you don’t need anywhere near as much to finish flowering as the nutrients are built up.
more than one way to do something.
Mine did not come in that package. I did not get an invoice like that either. Mine I think is a manila envelope with a sticker. The packs were the pointy plastic vials with Ohaze sharpie on them.
@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
I never said hammer grew shit plants i would love to see you show me were i did and yes i did say Hammers plants all look indica heavy apart from the THH and i stand by that.
I have plenty of sativa pictures i have grown but very few indicas.
This should be about sharing information that is accurate others can use but instead it seams to be more about attacking people and singling out people you clearly dont like.
I have plenty of sativa pictures i have grown but very few indicas.
This should be about sharing information that is accurate others can use but instead it seams to be more about attacking people and singling out people you clearly dont like.
@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
I dont feed heavy in veg i just feed them the standard recommended mix of the nutrient as recommended.
I start with a water with a neutral 7PH i mix and re test the mix and that is it.
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