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The Guerrilla Handbook - A future documentary in the making

Team Microbe

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Thank you very much! I highly appreciate it. I'll take a look at that thread right now.

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I find after effects more professional and it is extremely simple to navigate!

I would compare iMovie to Windows Movie Maker. Just generic. Don't get me wrong, it'll work... But, After Effects blows it away, you'll end up saving time and having a better final product.

If you run across any issues just let me know. Everything is very simple! If you want me to walk you through a chapter or two there is a program called Teamviewer, we can remote assist each other and I can walk you through the basics (we'd just have to plan according to our time schedules). Goodluck buddy!:biggrin:

Gotcha. I think I'll be able to get the hang of it, I just need to sit down and watch all of the tutorials on the program pretty much. That would be amazing if you could help me out through that other program though man, I'm down.. I know I'll need it in the beginning for sure. Hopefully I'll get it all planned out ahead of time so I can finish the movie within a month. Do you think I'll be able to do it? For a 50 minute video?

Woth legalization sweeping over the states, there might not be many more opportunities to film a truly undercover guerrilla grow.

This is true
 

BigNoise

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Hell yeah brother, Silverback ranted and raved about KC-33 so I've gotta give it a run this year. Have heard great things about Spontanica as well, what lat are you on? Anywhere near 43N?

I'm 45* north, Oregon coast.

I'm excited to run the KC stuff this year. Where have you ordered your seeds from? I just ordered from Herbies, reviews seemed good, and they are a site sponsor, so...

It sounds like both KC33 and Spontanica can get BIG, so I'm stoked to try to get some good poundage from them. I plan on giving them 100 gallons of soil minimum, probably at least 200...haven't figured out all the logistics yet. Also running Mango from KC, as well as some Hybrids from Hell strains.
 

w4tch

Member
Gotcha. I think I'll be able to get the hang of it, I just need to sit down and watch all of the tutorials on the program pretty much. That would be amazing if you could help me out through that other program though man, I'm down.. I know I'll need it in the beginning for sure. Hopefully I'll get it all planned out ahead of time so I can finish the movie within a month. Do you think I'll be able to do it? For a 50 minute video?



This is true

Yeah. Toke and you'll lose track of time quick. Once you get a hang of how to use the program it'll literally take 5 mins a chapter. I sent you a friend request. Just shoot me a pm when you have the first few chapters ready to edit and I'll help you out (anytime on a weekend is fine, college blows, Im US EST. idk what zone you are).

I'll be tuned in on the threads as well!
 

DuskrayTroubador

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I for one think that our society has too many issues for legalization to benefit people. Mom and pop will get largely fucked, weed will go down in quality as well due to Monsanto agriculture.

Then again, maybe widespread weed is what we need to change society. But would that many more people toke who don't already?

Besides, I don't know if growing would be as exciting if I could do it in the open I'm my yard.
 

stoned-trout

if it smells like fish
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mom and pop aint going anywhere...even just pop will survive...quality smoke will always sell...due to greed and overtaxation the black market will always thrive.....yeehaw
 

rastas

Member
ShakiraLoca, take it easy and good luck to Your efforts on trying to claim Cannabis to yourself. I understand that doing things 'under the radar' feels exiting, but its child's play. Its the narcissistic approach that we have towards living creatures that harms everything around us (not saying that You have it, I assume that You are one of the good ones.)

I hope that one day Cannabis and information about it (just like this thread, or the ICMag community) will be shared to everyone and no one will be able to make a profit from it, unless someone is prepared and wants to pay for it. This IMO would be the best way to change the common untruthful illusion that people possess. It would be sweet as Mary Jane's punani to taste this kind of freedom to teach everyone near me, especially including my future children and children's children, to grow their own medicine, without subjecting myself to any kind of prejudice.
And yes, hope is a four letter word, means absolutely jack's shit when big boys, such as Monsanto or Bayer, comes along to patent their future GMO Jack Herer.

Thumbs up to Team Microbe's project, the best of luck!
 

DuskrayTroubador

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In an ideal world cannabis would be free and wouldn't be Monsanto shit.

We live in a world that is far from ideal.

I obviously don't want people to go to jail for cannabis.

I also obviously want to be able to make a living (i.e. food, water, shelter, no extreme financial hardship, etc.) doing what I enjoy growing cannabis.

In an ideal society, people would be able to make a living doing what they enjoy. Again, our society is not such.

Whereas legalization in an ideal society would be wonderful, ours is not necessarily ready. Legalization opens the flood gate for Monsanto and co. which obviously none of us want.

Therefore, I Think that our society is not ready for legalization. Decriminalization I think is great, but legalization (at this point in time) carries some bad consequences.

Please don't mistake me for some greedy asshat. I'm by no means living any sort of lavish lifestyle.
 

rastas

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.. SORRY ABOUT OFFTOPIC ..

I understand Your point, makes me reconsider my own ShakiraLoba.

Big Business Bastardos would sweep Cannabis from our lawns in no time, some drones to scan up in the sky and boom, busted!

But then again why aren't they lobbing to legalize Cannabis? Especially when they officially (legalized states with newsworthy stats and money etc.) see how much profit can be made. Well, I assume, without any kind of examination, that they are already making a big buck with guns ( for example 'drug war' in Mexico, drug related violencia) and prisons (privatized in America). In other words, why Cannabis stays illegal? Because some chabillionaires are making an even larger dollar and 'voting' (paying) for the right peeps.
Lately the rest of the world has waited like an idiot to see what is happening overseas in the States and only a handful of nations (Holland, Portugal, Uruguay etc.) are brave enough to go through change in their drug laws. Portugal has perfect climate for growing outdoors, I hope people are giving it a go, fertile culture for a change, I say.

Another business model. You know how 'smoking Buddha' is sacred in beliefs and to religious people in India? I watched Strain Hunters in India and saw how local police were boosting alcohol sales, even though they know personally that it is far worse than smoking charas, someone is paying them, not a lot but enough. But changing religion and thousand years of belief in charas is harder than brainwashing people to the devil of alcohol (says my nonreligious, reasonable, truthful spirit).
Where I come from I see the effects of alcohol. People here, in general, have a sick twisted understanding that alcohol is better for oneself than reefer, we do not need this idealism and untruthfulness anywhere. Goddamn, we have battled. We do not even have a licensed organization that is pro-cannabis, because the government is refusal to acknowledge and register this kind of organization. Again someone somewhere is making large dough. No need to be an economist to say that those profit gainers are alcohol companies, especially the one that is being run by the government itself. Oh did I mention, the government via their own fancy boutiques sells and regulates all alcohol beverages over 4,7%. Its for the good of the common health, taxes and all. Truth is that alcohol is a real fucking problem here. Alcohol causes human decay, violence and deaths (suicidal, accidental), most of all it ruins peoples minds. Like said, we have a sick twisted understanding that alcohol is better for oneself than the sacred mother herb.
Damn, I wish that we could all hear what Abe Lincoln, Georgie Washington etc. were telling peeps about hemp and 'tobacco' made from it. Oh how the commons views would change. BTW, one of the first T-model Fords used a plastic body made from 70 percent hemp, wheat straw, and sisal with 30 percent hemp resin binder, ( but then some dick said; "no, we have to dig in to mother earths vagin and destroy it completely by harvesting metals underneath earths crust.")

But I think that whoever smokes the sacred herb has a change to be cured from the illusion of all stated here today, especially the dangerous fight for fast creamy cash, and consumer schizophrenia. So the more who toke, the faster the change to understanding and higher consciousness.

I wish You, ShakiraLoba, luck packed with the greatest of vibes!

.. BACK TO THE ORIGINAL TOPIC ..
 
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Team Microbe

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I'm 45* north, Oregon coast.

I'm excited to run the KC stuff this year. Where have you ordered your seeds from? I just ordered from Herbies, reviews seemed good, and they are a site sponsor, so...

It sounds like both KC33 and Spontanica can get BIG, so I'm stoked to try to get some good poundage from them. I plan on giving them 100 gallons of soil minimum, probably at least 200...haven't figured out all the logistics yet. Also running Mango from KC, as well as some Hybrids from Hell strains.

Nice then yeah all of those strains will be great contenders for you out there man. Silverback was from Oregon and he used KC-33 as an insurance strain, so that says a lot for sure. If you're going in 100 gallon holes you're going to crop out very well, even better in 200. I'd still keep security in mind though, big plants like that aren't as easy to hide unless you're in the right spot with enough cover ya know? I can only grow big plants in 1 or 2 spots, but then again the Northeast is far different than the Northwest. I'm going to do 60 gal & 80 gal holes this year I think, unless I find great native in which I'll be able to go bigger and keep my budget the same.

I'm glad you mentioned Hybrids From Hell! I forgot about them for a month or two, I wanted to give some of their gear a go this year because of the conditions they breed for. Which ones did you have in mind? (Btw I've ordered from Attitude, herbies, and seedsman before with success. I don't use the Tude anymore though)

Yeah. Toke and you'll lose track of time quick. Once you get a hang of how to use the program it'll literally take 5 mins a chapter. I sent you a friend request. Just shoot me a pm when you have the first few chapters ready to edit and I'll help you out (anytime on a weekend is fine, college blows, Im US EST. idk what zone you are).

I'll be tuned in on the threads as well!

Nice man, I'll plan on using that program to edit this film with then. Do you go to school for film at all? Or are you just computer savy? Thanks again for the help, I'll def let you know when the editing begins bro :tiphat:

I for one think that our society has too many issues for legalization to benefit people. Mom and pop will get largely fucked, weed will go down in quality as well due to Monsanto agriculture.

Then again, maybe widespread weed is what we need to change society. But would that many more people toke who don't already?

Besides, I don't know if growing would be as exciting if I could do it in the open I'm my yard.

I think the same amount of people will smoke. However the access may just be easier - running down to the corner store for an 1/8 type of thing just like alcohol.

Prohibition ending can be a good or bad thing, it depends how things are conducted really. If Monsanto takes over and supplies poisonous medicine then of course it will be as fucked as our supermarkets are today. The GMO-filled grocery stores are the result of business being taken from the knowledgeable farmers by Big Brother - we cannot let this happen in the canna industry.

That would be the worst, but on the other side if the spectrum; if we regulate legal sales and provide a strict standards (clean) for the medicine to meet - this can be the best thing that's ever happened to our beloved country. Less people would drink, and more would smoke if they had access to rich tasting, clean, organic herb. They would simply feel better, and the wave would sweep over the entire country after results were being seen over the years. Less automobile fatalities, less illnesses since endocannabinoid systems would be active, and more passive attitudes would be brought to everything at every angle if we had a society that smoked instead of drank.

Of course this would be the ideal scenario, and most likely won't be the case due to butting heads with big brother. But if we can find a happy medium that would employ citizens, would not harm users' health, and be similar to alcohol I think I would be satisfied.

mom and pop aint going anywhere...even just pop will survive...quality smoke will always sell...due to greed and overtaxation the black market will always thrive.....yeehaw

Quality smoke will always sell, that's true. Until the prices drop enough like alcohol has of course. It's crazy to think that dispensaries charge as much as the black market... even more in some places. How dare they...

ShakiraLoca, take it easy and good luck to Your efforts on trying to claim Cannabis to yourself. I understand that doing things 'under the radar' feels exiting, but its child's play. Its the narcissistic approach that we have towards living creatures that harms everything around us not saying that You have it, I assume that You are one of the good ones.)

I hope that one day Cannabis and information about it (just like this thread, or the ICMag community) will be shared to everyone and no one will be able to make a profit from it, unless someone is prepared and wants to pay for it. This IMO would be the best way to change the common untruthful illusion that people possess. It would be sweet as Mary Jane's punani to taste this kind of freedom to teach everyone near me, especially including my future children and children's children, to grow their own medicine, without subjecting myself to any kind of prejudice.
And yes, hope is a four letter word, means absolutely jack's shit when big boys, such as Monsanto or Bayer, comes along to patent their future GMO Jack Herer.

Thumbs up to Team Microbe's project, the best of luck!

IMO, there's nothing childish about standing up for what you believe in, especially when the punishments for being caught are real and not so pleasant. People who sacrifice their freedom regardless of what man-made laws state are what I call Weed Warriors. These are the troops on the front line that grow and supply their area with medicine. The guys putting their necks on the line because they know at heart what they're doing is right. The dudes going out 5 days a week at 3am to haul supplies through the swamps to their patches that they've dug by hand the week beforehand. These are the people that most don't appreciate enough because they simply don't know what they go through.

Sure, it's exciting to chop down a field of plants and haul them back into civilization every year. But that's a reward for us to relish in if we actually make it back to the drying facility in one piece. We have not only cops to worry about all year long, but rippers and rats as well. We shouldn't have to live like this, but it's what prohibition demands of us. It says a lot about a person when they put principal before law.

I think you're mistaking the real growers for the cash croppers that don't respect anyone or anything. There's a big difference, and unfortunately only the cash croppers get recognition on the news and in the papers. There are a ton of good hearted growers out there (like ShakiraLoba and myself) that do this for the right reasons. We respect this plant and see it's potential so we sow it with everything we've got. Just like anyone else though, we deserve to be paid for our work. Especially this type of work lol. Just because it's not "allowed" to go down where we live doesn't make it any different than any other job.

I too would like to come out and be able to share my knowledge and help others begin to grow as well, but that time will come. We must be patient, and do what we can to push this entire movement in the right direction. I thikn the community is full of great people and we would never let Monsanto get a hold of this precious industry. Just remember guerrillas aren't all nature-destroying monsters. There are a bunch of tree huggers out there that literally improve biology in the areas that they grow in. They're just the guys you don't ever hear about, because they do things the right way and stay under the radar...

In an ideal world cannabis would be free and wouldn't be Monsanto shit.

We live in a world that is far from ideal.

I obviously don't want people to go to jail for cannabis.

I also obviously want to be able to make a living (i.e. food, water, shelter, no extreme financial hardship, etc.) doing what I enjoy growing cannabis.

In an ideal society, people would be able to make a living doing what they enjoy. Again, our society is not such.

Whereas legalization in an ideal society would be wonderful, ours is not necessarily ready. Legalization opens the flood gate for Monsanto and co. which obviously none of us want.

Therefore, I Think that our society is not ready for legalization. Decriminalization I think is great, but legalization (at this point in time) carries some bad consequences.

Please don't mistake me for some greedy asshat. I'm by no means living any sort of lavish lifestyle.

Well said, I don't think we're ready either. Give it 5 more years, then we'll have some real decisions to vote on I bet. What an exciting time to be a grower :dance013:
 

w4tch

Member
I'm not studying film, but I have taken a few video production classes, one of which taught me to use Adobe After Effects.

Sounds good buddy! :biggrin:
 

Kygiacomo!!!

AppAlachiAn OutLaW
Nice then yeah all of those strains will be great contenders for you out there man. Silverback was from Oregon and he used KC-33 as an insurance strain, so that says a lot for sure.
silverback was from eastern ky bro..look at the strain guide and u will see his lat is 38n applachia..look at this strain from breederbrad's description..also in that thread that DStoker made and told everone here on ICmag about silverbacks death someone posted a funeral obituary with a news paper clipping of where it happen at..the place he use to live is like 45 mins from my house..

Silverback
Supposedly one half herijuana that was obtained from the late Silverback(rip) from Kentucky.

This pheno was very frosty and a lot quicker than the #2 Mom. Hit with the Freeze daddies; these strains were made for each other: fat, fast and frosty.

Herijuana x Freezeland
Photoperiod
Regular Seeds
 

Team Microbe

Active member
Veteran
silverback was from eastern ky bro..look at the strain guide and u will see his lat is 38n applachia..look at this strain from breederbrad's description

Silverback
Supposedly one half herijuana that was obtained from the late Silverback(rip) from Kentucky.

This pheno was very frosty and a lot quicker than the #2 Mom. Hit with the Freeze daddies; these strains were made for each other: fat, fast and frosty.

Herijuana x Freezeland
Photoperiod
Regular Seeds

Whaaaat. Why do I always mix that up? Backcountry is who is out of Oregon, not Silverback. I mix them up a lot :laughing:

Both are legends that's probably why...

I like that he's out of the belt, that's closer to home
 

Kygiacomo!!!

AppAlachiAn OutLaW
Whaaaat. Why do I always mix that up? Backcountry is who is out of Oregon, not Silverback. I mix them up a lot :laughing:

Both are legends that's probably why...

I like that he's out of the belt, that's closer to home

haha ya bro hes oregon..i do miss backcountry on here..his posts was awesome and the stuff he has saved here is priceless..damn right both are legends!! those 2 guys have helped me in the last 8 months in prove my guerilla game 10 fold..ya what strains worked for him will work for me to..im pretty sure that DS TokerMd was a buddy of SB and i picked up a few of his strains well that he had success with..i remember he always talked about the blue hashplant alot and how well it did here..that will be the #1 strain on my list after this season..i like dinafem alot they have some bomb genetics..im gonna get the blue hashplant,blue widow and cali hashplant next year..i spoke to dinafem guy and he said the blue kush is a very hardy strain of theirs and was breed outdoors right at my lat or close to it..he also told me that alot of UK growers have been reporting success with the blue kush..i have 1 seed of it that i bought on pick-n-mix.
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forgot to mention i been following a guy on instagram from dinafem and the pics they have on a few outdoor grows of critical jack,blue widow and critical 2.0 looks fkn badass..the critical 2.0 has some fat ass buds on it and the critical jack looked to be like a monster producer..prolly rivals the delahaze in terms of yeild from what i seen and i have 1 seed of it as well lol
 

BigNoise

Member
Nice then yeah all of those strains will be great contenders for you out there man. Silverback was from Oregon and he used KC-33 as an insurance strain, so that says a lot for sure. If you're going in 100 gallon holes you're going to crop out very well, even better in 200. I'd still keep security in mind though, big plants like that aren't as easy to hide unless you're in the right spot with enough cover ya know? I can only grow big plants in 1 or 2 spots, but then again the Northeast is far different than the Northwest. I'm going to do 60 gal & 80 gal holes this year I think, unless I find great native in which I'll be able to go bigger and keep my budget the same.

I'm glad you mentioned Hybrids From Hell! I forgot about them for a month or two, I wanted to give some of their gear a go this year because of the conditions they breed for. Which ones did you have in mind? (Btw I've ordered from Attitude, herbies, and seedsman before with success. I don't use the Tude anymore though)

From HFH I'm going with Danish Gold, Monk, Wild White, Super07, and whatever freebies I get hooked up with.

Regarding security, as you may know, come July, 4 plants per household will be legal for personal growing here in Oregon. When that day comes, 4 plants might just *show up* in my yard, lol. I'm also planning on running some plants on other peoples properties who otherwise wouldn't grow, and maybe putting a few plants out in the woods. The big soil will probably only be done in yards, whereas if I do some guerrilla stuff it will be smaller. Might even try some swamp tubes in places.
 

Kygiacomo!!!

AppAlachiAn OutLaW
From HFH I'm going with Danish Gold, Monk, Wild White, Super07, and whatever freebies I get hooked up with.

Regarding security, as you may know, come July, 4 plants per household will be legal for personal growing here in Oregon. When that day comes, 4 plants might just *show up* in my yard, lol. I'm also planning on running some plants on other peoples properties who otherwise wouldn't grow, and maybe putting a few plants out in the woods. The big soil will probably only be done in yards, whereas if I do some guerrilla stuff it will be smaller. Might even try some swamp tubes in places.
i got wild1,2,3,4 royal dane,rocket chunk1&2 and a freebie of Danish landrace 14..the wild3 producers a huge yeild..i seen a few grows on another fourm with the wild3..if i can remember correctly he said it was right at 700 grams
 

Team Microbe

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Veteran
From HFH I'm going with Danish Gold, Monk, Wild White, Super07, and whatever freebies I get hooked up with.

Regarding security, as you may know, come July, 4 plants per household will be legal for personal growing here in Oregon. When that day comes, 4 plants might just *show up* in my yard, lol. I'm also planning on running some plants on other peoples properties who otherwise wouldn't grow, and maybe putting a few plants out in the woods. The big soil will probably only be done in yards, whereas if I do some guerrilla stuff it will be smaller. Might even try some swamp tubes in places.

:laughing:

"They just showed up sir, I'm not quite sure how they got here"

Nice HFH selection btw, I was looking into the Danish Gold as well. It sounds like you're gonna have a dialed in season my man, wish you the best of luck!
 

BigNoise

Member
Thanks, same to you. I'll be looking forward to the progress on your grow and video. If I mess with any guerrilla techniques, I'll keep you posted.
 
Were the new age people grew 8 to 15 plants gurilla style in the S.f. Bay area they were growing 1000 to 2000 all hybid and crap , West Marin gurilla growers in the 70 s and 80s grew the best weed outside of Big Sur in California and the strains were Oaxacan , Durban , hindu kush , malawi and some Thai and I really miss that weed .the brush is thicker along the coast and stays greener because of the fog , makes a good cover and foliar feeds plants naturally with mist also it is really warm on October along the coast and there is no frost so even some Kerala could be grown . Santa Cruz , Big Sur , and Marin is were many strains were started because of who resided there , musicians and some very hip people the strains were all grown gurilla because people were paranoid , even when growing on their own land if not on goverment land .also the nearby brush , especially sting nettles was said to increase the terpenes in the weed .
 
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