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Dreambig

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Tea time anyone?

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Backyard Farmer

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Pruning

Pruning

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7lcIsK8_WQ

Hey all,

Summer has been going great and I figure we should re-re-re-visit pruning!

It's pretty essential on big plants to keep the inside cleaned out in my opinion...We're just now getting in to the peak time when they're going to grow and we haven't even started the August Stretch yet!

Letting our plants devote energy to building tissue that eventually won't bear quality flowers seems like a good way to rob ourselves of medicine that could other wise be put to beneficial use!

The method of pruning we employ here at the Summer Camp is called "Pistillwhipt" pruning after an old Cannabis-World member who originally adapted this method of Fruit Tree pruning to Ganja !!

I think it works pretty good. The idea is to remove all the lateral branching from the axial branches and leave the apical node clusters.

I know some of you are saying "But what about the hash pile?!" Don't worry...There's plenty of trim !!

Here we go with some pictures...


Before the Clean up...



The plant is supported by a 6' bamboo stake holding the meristem and allowed to grow through a 3' diameter Concrete Remesh cage. I started with a 7' tall roll and just cut the cages in half...Anything that didn't make it out of the Remesh is removed...

It's important to leave all the fan leaves though..They are the Power Plants for our Ladies!!

And we end up with this...



Here's an up close of one of the branches...

 
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grow nerd

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I personally agree with pruning the insides, but I remember Tom Hill mentioning something about how it should be left alone for wind or another reason... any thoughts/comments on that?

Hope you know what I'm referring to so I don't have to find that post.
 

FarmTough

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He's talking about topping.


I don't top my plants either

Looking good so far backyard farmer. Definitely going to keep watch.

Why would you not want to top? More surface area more bud sights. I top pretty heavenly an "super crop" bending the top branches to 90 degree angles. They get a bit wider an shoot up 3+ heads.
 

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If you get lots of wind in certain situations they can rip apart. It's windy here...my spacing is closer than I want, too. Try to get em to go up for as long as I can
 

grow nerd

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Looking good so far backyard farmer. Definitely going to keep watch.

Why would you not want to top? More surface area more bud sights. I top pretty heavenly an "super crop" bending the top branches to 90 degree angles. They get a bit wider an shoot up 3+ heads.

I'm guessing reduced yield due to shorter height and hedging (more surface area overall, but less surface area that gets direct sun).
 

FarmTough

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Pics are being funny sorry

Well how do you plan on netting a 10 ft plus high plant? Any pics?
 

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Backyard Farmer

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Easy-ish

I have a collection of 8' tposts that will go around the plant to carry the next layer of support...which will be hortonova netting.

For the last layer I'm just going to throw it over them and let the last layer support itself..or something like that any way....it'll have to follow my guidelines of being reusable and multipurpose however I do the last layer ...

I'm thinking about getting a pallet of 12' T Posts
 

FarmTough

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I'm guessing reduced yield due to shorter height and hedging (more surface area overall, but less surface area that gets direct sun).

I disagree. Last year I had the girls 8 ft center to center an 5ft wide rows an they filled that out while being a 7ft -8ft tall plant. This year it's 7.5ft wide rows an 10ft center to center. I'd imagine it's gunna cover that again an be 9+ tall. That seems that this would get much more sunlit area. Slash I like em fat.

Both pics are a C4 chemdog cut

Also what's up with my photos how do I rotate it. Or directly put it in my post. On a phone fyi.
 

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grow nerd

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Really hoping that having topped my plants won't hurt me yield-wise. (Or at all, really.)

But I don't have a side-by-side to compare to, so I won't get to find out first-hand.

I would love 12' T-posts but afraid it might require a ladder to pound in. Would make it difficult as I work alone and since I'm on a hillside. I was planning on using 7' T-posts (about 5' - 5.5' above-ground) with 10'+ bamboo strapped to it, hoping my plants get that tall.
 

Backyard Farmer

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Things like topping don't really dictate yield they just change the shape of the plant. My experience has been that the start you have in the spring becomes the limiting factor in the Fall harvest quantity...ie., the better the spring went the more yield in the fall...
 
I agree with BYF, topping mostly just changes a plants shape. Unless in a situation with a lanky sativa, it usually should be avoided. I'd be a fool to top my twist og, cherry pie, etc.........
 

Yes4Prop215

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+1 on not topping…people keep asking me why I'm not topping, i want them tall! if i had lots of flat land with huge 20+ foot spacing, and was going for massive bush/hedges, then i might top. but i have to make due with terraces and limited space so i want my plants to grow up, not out.


also i noticed that plants will kind of natural top themselves after they hit 7-8 ft or so. the lateral branching catches up quick to the top growth…

gorilla glue is a natural bush, i didn't top these plants at all and they just won't grow vertically…
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GG4 (L), Cherry Pie (R)
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GG4

untopped Chem4SD x Tangie Plushberry seedlings on the left, bamboo are 12 footers unburied for reference. anchored with 7 ft t-post banged into the ground. probably can't call these seedlings anymore lol! you can peep my electronic valve setup on the ground as well…love my Irritrol Total Control system best money i ever spent.
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Bulldog420

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Watching your gardens progress over the years Yes4prop215 has been inspiring. Great job on the garden, the plants are looking fantastic.
 
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