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The death of "strains"

Dropped Cat

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Monetary reward is the lowest form of motivation to produce
any given product of societal value.


You may quote me on this.
 
possible in some stores

But we still smoke marlboros and drink Budweiser
Names are catchy and cool

I prefer the import beers myself they actually have some flavor but it's not cheap most people do drink Budweiser and Coors Light but for the connoisseur not happening unless I'm already drunk as fuck and ran out of good beer. Lol

I do prefer mixed drinks though I got one hell of a liquor cabinet going enough to make grateful deads and a lot more. :)
 
Well an heirloom would be something that’s traits are locked and breeds true time after time. I don’t know if this is even possible from seed with drug cannabis because of its diversity. Look at skunk #1, it’s probably one of the most inbred varieties but it still throws variation in phenotype. Maybe with laws being relaxed things will change breeding wise.

They are already changing breeding wise we have a USPTO patented GMO variety already God knows what the future holds. Would be nice to find out more about this GMO strain I read a little about it but it's held by a Pharmaceutical company in Canada and not a whole lot of information about the strain.

But I did hear talk about an anti botrytis GMO that was made years ago but I have honestly not had too much trouble with botrytis personally.
 

MJPassion

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Please post a link for this patented GMO variety.

I know of 4 patented varieties but i know of ZERO GM cannabis as of yet. I'm not saying it hasn't been done but I am skeptical at this time.
 

Ollie

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Phytocannabinoid profiles and all possibilities underlying this will hopefully be the future.

Big up
 

hellfire

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I have been an advocate of an alphanumerical naming system that would allow for accurate genetic tracking in the naming. I don't think many people, breeders especially, are fond of an idea like that.

But I do think we need a solid naming system of cultivars that recognizes their genetic makeup. When names are slapped on seeds randomly without any naming relationship to the parents things get confusing. The map is a bit blurred to say the least.

I think we will see classic names stay around for nostalgic purposes of marketing and newer stuff reduced to cannabinoid ratios/terp profiles. Plus, you shouldn't believe most of the names put on dispensary bud bottles imo.
 
Please post a link for this patented GMO variety.

I know of 4 patented varieties but i know of ZERO GM cannabis as of yet. I'm not saying it hasn't been done but I am skeptical at this time.

It's Veritas Pharma Inc. The PDF file Investors Presentation has all the information they work with GW Pharmaceuticals and Bayer/Monsanto as well as a couple other pharmaceutical companies. All the information is in that PDF file except for the connection with Bayer but that can be found really easy on the GW Pharmaceuticals website saying GW and Bayer are partners in medical marijuana years before the Bayer/Monsanto merger.

Heres the web page with that PDF file.

http://veritaspharmainc.com/investors/presentations/

Kind of amazing not too many people know about the GMO marijuana here it's common knowledge on other cannabis forums.
 
Really wouldn't be too bad of a company to invest in because they are going to make serious money Germany even just legalized medical marijuana but only for big pharma same will happen if Trump makes marijuana schedule anything, he is all for medical marijuana at least during the election.

Not to mention all the countries that have free health care why would anyone pay $20 a gram from a dispensary?
 

coldcanna

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I also think as legalization progresses more scientific effort will be put into its' research. Most specifically it would be fascinating to see a DNA-based research that traces the ancestry of today's hybrids back to the original landraces around the globe. I would venture to say that each region is going to have a specific set of terpene and cannabinoid profiles, and when breeding for specific traits it could be easier to start with these than to try to work backwords from today's muddied hybrids.
 

MJPassion

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It's Veritas Pharma Inc. The PDF file Investors Presentation has all the information they work with GW Pharmaceuticals and Bayer/Monsanto as well as a couple other pharmaceutical companies. All the information is in that PDF file except for the connection with Bayer but that can be found really easy on the GW Pharmaceuticals website saying GW and Bayer are partners in medical marijuana years before the Bayer/Monsanto merger.

Heres the web page with that PDF file.

http://veritaspharmainc.com/investors/presentations/

Kind of amazing not too many people know about the GMO marijuana here it's common knowledge on other cannabis forums.

Sorry yo...

There is absolutely zero evidence of the actual existence of GM cannabis from the link you provided.
That pdf breifly speaks about plant protection rights but says nothing about actual patented GM cannabis cultivars.

S.Skunkman has business relations w GW & I think I've gotta trust what he says when he purports that there are no GM cultivars as of yet. I'm almost positive that there will be soon enough but at this point there exists noone.

Thanks for trying.
 
Sorry yo...

There is absolutely zero evidence of the actual existence of GM cannabis from the link you provided.
That pdf breifly speaks about plant protection rights but says nothing about actual patented GM cannabis cultivars.

S.Skunkman has business relations w GW & I think I've gotta trust what he says when he purports that there are no GM cultivars as of yet. I'm almost positive that there will be soon enough but at this point there exists noone.

Thanks for trying.

So you didn't read the part where they list genetically modifications as one of their goals in the part where they say they have one USPTO patent and 2 plants protected in Canada?

Also the fact that the easiest way to get a patent on a plant is with GMO's because it's an automatic invention which is why Monsanto has so many patents.

I would personally take anyone's word who works for GW Pharmaceuticals with a bucket of salt. I imagine if the Skunkman admitted any involvement with GMO cannabis would go over like a fart in church especially with the hippie crowds. But I don't know too much about his involvement with GW other than giving them plants.

But I'm not trying anything you just asked for a link which I provided people are most certainly working on GMO cannabis right now it's just big pharma though. I can't really see much use for the recreational market.
 

ReikoX

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There are no strains, per say, to begin with!

A strain is considerd such because the variety is strained, via breeding programs, to produce a particular set of traits from plant to plant to plant... They're stabilized, if you will.

What we have today is a genetic mess where nothing in particular is locked down. Every trait in every modern variety shows variation to some degree.

I guess, in the end, you could say that we have to produce a few STRAINS before they could die out...

A partucular plant (clone) is refered to as a cultivar...
A seed line is a variety...
A worked to stabilization seed line is a strain.

You're so close I almost want to agree with you. This is one of my pet peeves, there are no cannabis "strains" a strain is a classification of micro-organisms like a virus or bacteria not a plant.

A particular plant (clone) is a cultivar. A worked seed line is a variety (variety of phenotypes).

Don't even get me started on the use of "stran" or "strand". Sometimes it is quite frustrating buying at a dispensary when the bud tender know nothing but "this one is 30%THC".
 

baduy

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So you didn't read the part where they list genetically modifications as one of their goals in the part where they say they have one USPTO patent and 2 plants protected in Canada?

Also the fact that the easiest way to get a patent on a plant is with GMO's because it's an automatic invention which is why Monsanto has so many patents.

I would personally take anyone's word who works for GW Pharmaceuticals with a bucket of salt. I imagine if the Skunkman admitted any involvement with GMO cannabis would go over like a fart in church especially with the hippie crowds. But I don't know too much about his involvement with GW other than giving them plants.

But I'm not trying anything you just asked for a link which I provided people are most certainly working on GMO cannabis right now it's just big pharma though. I can't really see much use for the recreational market.
So with an outcrosser like Cannabis all they'll have to do is release massive amounts of GM pollen in grow areas for a few years and there will be an amount of their genes in every varieties on the market eventually, so they will have a right to sue growers for using their genes without paying for. That's how patents work if I'm not mistaken.
 

Douglas.Curtis

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growers can be as due diligent as they want. Fancy packaging and marketing teams will shit on them all day.


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That only works with the ignorant. In their favor, about 90% of the cannabis using community is short on facts.

The cool thing is, educated folk will always be looking for the due diligence we provide. They'll drive extra miles and pay extra dollars for a truly quality product. Niche it may be, it will still pay well and be greatly appreciated and enjoyed.

Growers who don't care? Get ready to work for the big boys or start polishing your resume for other industries. Your days, of paying rent with cannabis sales, are numbered.
 

Jhhnn

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So you didn't read the part where they list genetically modifications as one of their goals in the part where they say they have one USPTO patent and 2 plants protected in Canada?

Plant patents do not mean GMO. Inca Sun, for example, is a patented hybrid brugmansia cultivar. There are all kinds of non-GMO patented cultivars.

GMO cannabis is... an internet legend.

http://www.mintpressnews.com/did-monsanto-really-just-get-a-patent-for-gmo-marijuana/204480/
 

VonBudí

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That only works with the ignorant.

Donald Trump is president.
Bud light is the best selling beer.
Colorados largest dispensary owner makes the news monthly for selling pesticide soaked bud with zero impact to his profits.


there is no shortage of ignorance, a good marketing team will run rings around people all while hawking schwag.
 

MJPassion

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^^^BELIE' DAT^^^

90% of US Americans want convenience & don't give a shit about due diligence research.
 

jets1925

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Marketing not going anywhere.

Marketing not going anywhere.

I think naming and packaging will become even more important than it is now especially now that some states will require individual packaging.
 

Douglas.Curtis

Autistic Diplomat in Training
Donald Trump is president.
Bud light is the best selling beer.
Colorados largest dispensary owner makes the news monthly for selling pesticide soaked bud with zero impact to his profits.


there is no shortage of ignorance, a good marketing team will run rings around people all while hawking schwag.
Did you not read my post carefully, or is this a comprehension issue? You've simply restated the first part of what I said. Good job. :)
 

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