The Colombian Krippy Origin Thread

[tetragrammaton]

art.spliff no need to make multiple posts to go on tangents on OG Kush. We all know you have no interest or belief in any genetic background.

Do you even know who Sam the Skunkman, Red Fuji, Todd McCormic, Bubbleman, and Josh, Aaron from DNA, and B-Real from Cypress Hill are? You've already established you don't believe in any fairy tales or stories. There are many stories, and then there is THE story. This has been verified by those who brought it to the west coast. What is there not to get?

In 1995, Josh specifically had his buddy fly out to meet Red Fuji in Florida to get cuttings. One rooted. They also brought Bubba, and KY cuttings as well, which all rooted, only one Kush rooted. That is what became OG Kush. It wasn't called OG Kush until around 98.

As far as it being called The Kush initially, it was nothing like any Hindu Kush or Afghan Kush, and it was determined by Rob E. Clarke that it was a complex hybrid, but by no means a traditional "kush". The name is misleading, although it's very likely it has some actual kush in the background, as I have established that Krippy/Creepy/Cripi/Crippy started being grown in the late 80's from dutch genetics.

The reason for all the different cuts and names are simple. Somebody got a cutting and grew it in Tahoe, that became the Tahoe OG, same with the SFV OG Kush. Just putting names on the specific locations. As far as everything since then labeled as OG, the majority of what is known today are the result of S1s and or crosses.

This is all fact, not fairy tale, not anything.

Have you ever heard of Phylos Galaxy? The thing about OG Kush is that it's terpene profile is compared to a 64 box of crayons vs a 6 pack of crayons. There's something for everyone. It's virtually a coctail of terps. My personal opinion regarding this, is that's why it's so popular. I haven't heard anyone, be it a sativa lover, indica lover, or hybrid lover shit on OG Kush.

Why you keep bringing up OG Kush is beyond me, this isn't a thread about OG Kush, in fact there is a sticky post on OG Kush for you to discuss and refuse to believe fact.

 

[tetragrammaton]

What's the taste and smell of the original(?) columbian krippy?

Well, as has been established, the term emerged in the 80s for Colombian grown Dutch genetics of high quality. More THC, larger harvests, frosty buds, sinsemilla.

From what I understand, there are 8 varieties currently being grown as Creepy right now. RR has heard from his friend that they are growing Blue Satellite, which I have a very high reason to believe is THE Krippy that I know and love. To me, the taste is very sweet, floral, and very similar to the strain Flo, with an undertone of chem. The high is instant, and the pictures I've posted is the Krippy that I love. There are other strains sold as Krippy but they suck IMO. With that said, I just read a report in Spanish, from Colombia, claiming that there are 8 strains now being exported as Crippy. None were blue satellite, they all had spanish names, and it's likely that they simply changed the name to their own liking. If what I have is indeed Blue Satellite Krippy, I believe the growers are calling it "Flor".

This following description from Wikileaf of Blue Satellite describes the taste, smell, and high to a T.

"Blue Satellite -- not to be confused with related strain Blue Satellite #2 -- is a high-flying sativa with long-lasting effects. This strain is derived from a sativa phenotype of perennial favorite Blueberry and from flavorful Shiskaberry. The result is a bud with predominantly cerebral effects and a distinctive, complex flavor that may be an acquired taste for some. An excellent daytime strain, Blue Satellite’s THC content has been measured at between 15% and 22%.

Blue Satellite’s impressive flowers are distinguished by their shape and size. Ranging from medium to large, these buds cling together in distinct spade-like shapes, tapering down from a broad base into a pointed tip. Despite the strain’s sativa leanings, its flowers have an indica-type bud structure, densely-packed, with their leaves curling tightly inward toward their central stems. Finally, translucent white trichomes dot the inner and outer nooks and crannies of these solid nuggets, accounting for their high psychoactivity.

Perhaps unsurprisingly, Blue Satellite draws from the genetics of parent strain Blueberry to offer the strong, unmistakable odor of blueberries. Unlike DJ Short’s more common cut of Blueberry, though, Blue Satellite also has a strong chemical scent lurking underneath, with notes of ammonia and pencil shavings. Meanwhile, grinding up these dense buds releases some hints of pepper and spice. When combusted in a pipe or a joint, Blue Satellite burns with a smooth and easily palatable smoke. This smoke tastes like blueberries and citrus with a lingering chemical aftertaste.

Blue Satellite wastes no time, striking the user right away with its sativa force. At first, consumers feel a pressure around the eyes and temples, as well as some flushing in the cheeks. Smokers are typically quickly enveloped in a newfound cerebral energy, with their minds fixated on certain ideas or concepts that may not otherwise seem interesting. Many users may also have a freely-flowing internal monologue the jumps from one topic to the next. Although this kind of hyperactive thinking may be anxiety-inducing under the wrong circumstances, it can prove very useful for powering through a long to-do list. Blue Satellite’s focus can easily apply itself to complex work-related tasks; alternatively, it can add some background energy to mundane jobs like cleaning or running errands. This strain is also said to have a freewheeling euphoric energy that can illuminate social situations, sparking easy conversation and camaraderie. As the high wears on, a subtle body stone creeps in, providing slight relief for any tense or sore muscles. Blue Satellite is unlikely to induce couchlock, though -- in fact, the strain’s physical and mental effects combine to produce a holistic, therapeutic vibe. If users are so inclined, they can harness this energy to engage in activities that involve both body and mind, like exercise, dancing, and sex. Because it is more energetic than sedative, Blue Satellite is best consumed during the day; it’s also very enjoyable as a wake-and-bake treat.

Blue Satellite may also have several benefits for medical cannabis patients. Its focus can aid concentration for those with attention deficit disorders. It may also provide temporary improvement in some symptoms of mild to moderate depression. Physiologically, Blue Satellite soothes aches and pains, whether they’re temporary, as due to injury, or chronic, as due to disorders like lupus and arthritis. As noted, the onset of this high’s cerebral effects can be overwhelming; Blue Satellite is not recommended for patients who are prone to panic or who have a low tolerance for THC.

Seeds of Blue Satellite do not appear to be available for sale online. Instead, prospective growers should obtain clippigns of mature plants from a trusted source in order to foster “clones.” The plants can be grown indoors or out, although successful outdoor cultivation calls for a semi-humid climate with daytime temperatures between 70 and 80 degrees Fahrenheit. Blue Satellite’s sativa influence suggest that its plants grow particularly tall and may require pruning. These sativa roots also suggest a longer flowering time of 9 weeks or longer.

Better for active pursuits than for kicking back at home, Blue Satellite is certain to launch its consumers into new orbits of cerebral energy."

 

[CrushnYuba]

The florida crippy is not the same as the columbian krippy, on top of that we stopped getting imports from Columbia and instead got the jamaican and mexican brick weed, that and our indoor grows became more commercialized.

I realize that crippy is just a term for decent weed in fl but there definitely was Columbian in South East fl years back. It was brought over from the Bahamas from the same guys bringing blow over. At the time it wasn't that great. It was mostly consumed when there wasn't much else around.

I'm not sure if i believe any of those OG origin stories. Why believe one over another.

 

[red rider]

I have to pop in and clarify that punto rojo and mangobiche are most certainly not crippy. Both are indigenous long flowering equatorial plants nothing like the crippy. I've seen many types of crippy over the years and although I've heard it's a clone, I think there are many varieties with the name crippy. I talked to one of the delivery drivers once as he had crippy and something called "love potion" that cost twice as much. He simply said the love potion was better but upon inspection it looked just about like the crippy. Same compressed chunks covered in trichs, little lighter in color but very similar. The effect to me was less potent than the cheaper stuff but with a better taste. But lots and lots of misinformation out there and most is just marketing. You might see puto rojo and mangobiche being exported from Colombia again but it won't remind you anything like the crippy.

red rider

 

[tetragrammaton]

I'm not sure if i believe any of those OG origin stories. Why believe one over another.

Because why would Skunkman Sam, and Rob E. Clarke co-sign THE STORY from the actual people involved? And once again, are you familiar with Phylos Galaxy? Do you even know how important those two individuals are, and how much they contributed to virtually everything being smoked today? (Landrace aside)??? Not to mention Bubbleman who clearly knows his shit.

 

[RoyalFlush]

Red Fuji, who is the one from Florida who got the cutting to the west coast has verified that it was a seed from Colombian krippy. This is back in the early 90's. As stated, the Colombians started growing Dutch genetics in the 80's. From then on, yes Krippy/Crippy/Creepy, etc... took on a name of it's own, especially in Florida, where it was simply a name for high end bud grown in the US bud, similar to how terms such as "chronic", "loud", "dank", "dro", and "kush" have been used to describe potent marijuana.

Do you have a link of what you are saying?

From you're description of Krippy, it doesn't sound like crippy. It's nice that Columbia was trying out dutch genetics but in the 80's and 90 Florida was also dealing with them, Heck even Nevil from THE SEEDBANK OF HOLLAND said Florida was his biggest seed purchaser. I think we all have a different crippy in our mind.

 

[tetragrammaton]

I have to pop in and clarify that punto rojo and mangobiche are most certainly not crippy. Both are indigenous long flowering equatorial plants nothing like the crippy. I've seen many types of crippy over the years and although I've heard it's a clone, I think there are many varieties with the name crippy. I talked to one of the delivery drivers once as he had crippy and something called "love potion" that cost twice as much. He simply said the love potion was better but upon inspection it looked just about like the crippy. Same compressed chunks covered in trichs, little lighter in color but very similar. The effect to me was less potent than the cheaper stuff but with a better taste. But lots and lots of misinformation out there and most is just marketing. You might see puto rojo and mangobiche being exported from Colombia again but it won't remind you anything like the crippy.

red rider

I agree with you RR, Punto Rojo/Punta Roja is available here, but like you said, it's nothing like any of the good krippys and definitely nothing like the krippy that I know and love which by your own admission is potent and you enjoy at times. It is also clear to me that as you provided pictures of, Creepy/Krippy/etc... are just high THC hybrids. Luckily the strain of Krippy that I LOVE, I now have a seed.

I was surprised when I read the article from September 17th, 2018 last night which stated the following in spanish, which I'll follow up with a translation.

This is from https://www.elespectador.com/notici...n-nueve-hibridos-de-marihuana-articulo-812708 but it's all in spanish which is why I'm copying and pasting the original spanish text for those who understand spanish, as well as a translation:

https://www.elespectador.com/notici...n-nueve-hibridos-de-marihuana-articulo-812708

"Luego de más de seis meses de investigación en el territorio nacional, la Dirección de Antinarcóticos de la Policía determinó que la Regular (marihuana común) es la hierba con la que se arman el 80 % de los porros en el país, según el estudio “Cannabis en Colombia”, del Centro Internacional de Estudios Estratégicos contra el Narcotráfico (Ciena), publicado en 2017.

El 20 % de las dosis restantes que se comercializan corresponden a ocho híbridos de marihuana o Creepy, identificadas como “Mango biche”, “Matira blanca”, “Santa moña”, “Flor”, “Mat rais”, “Punto rojo”, “Villa de Leyva” y “White”, que han crecido en el mercado de sustancias psicoactivas al doblar su cuota, comparado con el 10 % que se registró en años anteriores y que son producto de la manipulación genética de las variedades nativas de cannabis (sativa, índica y ruderalis), muestras que serán estudiadas por la Universidad Nacional de Colombia, sede Manizales."

Now, in English:

After more than six months of investigation in the national territory, the Directorate of Antinarcotics of the Police determined that the Regular (common marijuana) is the herb with which 80% of the joints are assembled in the country, according to the study " Cannabis in Colombia ”, of the International Center for Strategic Studies against Drug Trafficking (Ciena), published in 2017.

20% of the remaining doses that are marketed correspond to eight marijuana or Creepy hybrids, identified as "Mango biche", "Matira blanca", "Santa moña", "Flor", "Mat rais", "Red dot", "Villa de Leyva" and "White", which have grown in the market of psychoactive substances by doubling their quota, compared with the 10% that has been selected in previous years and that are products of the genetics of native cannabis varieties ( sativa, indica and ruderalis), samples that will be studied by the National University of Colombia, Manizales headquarters.

Also worth mentioning is the following from the same article. Again, first in spanish, and then in english:

"Según una persona que durante 10 años sembró y vendió marihuana, los híbridos de Creepy son cultivados bajo techo, iluminados con luz led, cuentan con sistemas de riego que se activan cada 10 horas y son abonados con humus (abono orgánico que aporta nitrógeno, fósforo, potasio y magnesio a la tierra y a las plantas). Estos cuidados se reflejan en la calidad de la marihuana y en el incremento del porcentaje de THC, principal componente psicoactivo del cannabis.

“Para entender la evolución de los niveles de THC en las plantas de marihuana es importante saber que la Samarian Gold, que se cultivó y vendió durante la bonanza marimbera, entre 1975 y 1985, llegó a un punto máximo de concentración de este componente del 4 %”, afirmó William Villamil Villar, asesor del Departamento de Ciencias de la Universidad Nacional.

Actualmente, y según los estudios del Ciena, el nivel de THC de la marihuana común que se encuentra en el mercado colombiano oscila entre el 8 y el 15 %, mientras que las opciones de Creepy manejan THC entre el 15 y el 35 %. Además, el informe “Cannabis en Colombia” determinó que el promedio de THC de la marihuana que se consume es del 18,5 %."

In English:
According to a person who for 10 years planted and sold marijuana, Creepy hybrids are grown indoors, illuminated with LED light, have irrigation systems that are activated every 10 hours and are paid with humus (organic fertilizer that provides nitrogen, phosphorus , potassium and magnesium to the earth and plants). These cares are reflected in the quality of marijuana and in the increase in the percentage of THC, the main psychoactive component of cannabis.

“To understand the evolution of THC levels in marijuana plants it is important to know that the Samarian Gold, which was cultivated and sold during the marimbera bonanza, between 1975 and 1985, reached a maximum point of 4% THC", said William Villamil Villar, advisor to the Department of Science of the National University.

Currently, and according to Ciena studies, the THC level of common marijuana found in the Colombian market ranges between 8 and 15%, while Creepy options handle THC between 15 and 35%. In addition, the "Cannabis in Colombia" report determined that the average THC of marijuana consumed is 18.5%.

Peace and Love,
Tetra

 

[tetragrammaton]

I think we all have a different crippy in our mind.

Yes, that is correct, because since the 80's the high quality varieties of hybrids grown in Colombia are all called Krippy/Creepy/Cripi/Crippy regardless of what strain it is. Luckily the strain of Krippy that I've come to know and love, I have a seed of now. I believe it to be Blue Satellite based on the description of said strain and RR's friend informing him that it's one of the main creepy strains being grown.

 

[tetragrammaton]

Do you have a link of what you are saying?

If you're referring to what I'm saying regarding OG Kush, yes. However it's a 4 hour and close to 17 minute video. Luckily the OG story comes first and is discussed within the first hour. Skunkman Sam joins around 30-35 minutes into the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bJB63OBDb8 EDIT: 17 minutes and 41 seconds in is when Josh joins and breaks it all down, as well as Todd.

If you're referring to what I'm saying about the varieties of Krippy, make sure to pay close attention as I've posted a lot of valuable information and article links today, especially recently, as I stayed up last night doing as much research as I could, mainly from Colombian journalists and reports close to the source with interviews with the actual growers.

 

[flylowgethigh]

Sorry to jack a good arguement gents, but please let me say this landrace business in Colombia is cool - I did see a youtube about a guy doing strain hunts and some nice jungle grows.

But I want to know how those buds come out of the packs if anyone has actual experience. Are most or the trichrome heads that would appear on a trimmed bud still there after being packed and unpacked? I couldn't tell from the pics. Fresh sticky heady bud packed together. No doubt comes apart like peanut brittle at first. Damn shame they have to do that.

Thanks, just wondering cause...

 

[tetragrammaton]

But I want to know how those buds come out of the packs if anyone has actual experience. Are most or the trichrome heads that would appear on a trimmed bud still there after being packed and unpacked? I couldn't tell from the pics. Fresh sticky heady bud packed together. No doubt comes apart like peanut brittle at first. Damn shame they have to do that.

Thanks, just wondering cause...

It's dried and cured some before being vacuum sealed, the highest grade available, and the consistant strain that I now have a seed of and believe to be Blue Satellite, on the outside the trichs are still abundant, but obviously a lot gets stuck to the bags, and smeared on top.

Not sure if these pics will help you, but here is a picture of 100% krippy kief from about 2gs of the 4gs I received yesterday. Sorry the pics aren't better, I'm just as frustrated. I got a new phone with multiple lenses and it's supposed to be amazing, but I am still learning out how to figure out how to take macros, something that was super easy for me with phones I had 5 years ago, smh... But I'm getting better day by day. Additionally, I must disclaim that my grinder is gold (not real gold obviously) but gold in color, so that isn't as convenient as if it was black, or even silver, in terms of seeing the trich color. Not sure what size micron screen it is, but it is one of the finer ones, not the super fine, but definitely not the shitty kind that lets a lot of leaf material in.

Peace and Love,
Tetra

 

[flylowgethigh]

Thanks. It might be worth the effort to wash the inside of the bag to get the oil back.

There is some quote gold here.

This one could apply to PG&E:

Turning off the lights will do little, he said.

“The marijuana,” he said, “is everywhere.”

 

[tetragrammaton]

Thanks. It might be worth the effort to wash the inside of the bag to get the oil back.

There is some quote gold here.

This one could apply to PG&E:

Turning off the lights will do little, he said.

“The marijuana,” he said, “is everywhere.”

As far as I know, the people behind the lighted grow-ops have won the battle against the power being shut off. This is not my picture, but a picture I found on one of the articles I was reading last night. These are the mountains of Cauca at night.

 

[tetragrammaton]

The purpose of me creating this thread has been fulfilled. After all of my research as well as Red Rider's input, Krippy/Creepy/Cripi/Crippy is simply what they call high quality and high potency strains from Holland. For example, Red Rider showed his "Crippy Skunk" and his "Crippy White Widow", etc...

I just watched a few interviews in spanish, and it was also confirmed that to this day it's popular strains we've all been smoking for years. An interview from last year with a masked krippy farmer said some of the most popular strains are AK-47, White Widow, and Blueberry.

Contrary to what Red Rider says, apart from the FACT that criminal organizations are responsible for the MAJORITY of the trafficking, violence and crime from this Krippy, it is not grown with little care, quite the contrary. It is grown with immense care and modern technology, with great genetics.

With that said, Red Rider has been a blessing to this thread, as well as someone whom I respect, and admire, and have, going back to the days when we had different accounts here.

However, Red Rider, while I respect your love for long flowering landrace Sativas, and respect your desire for them to be preserved, which thankfully they are, thanks to you and some other seed companies, you have to understand that not everyone is on the same page, or Sativa's aren't everyones cup of tea.

I've grown out long flowering primo sativas, and they were very special and unique, but not my preference at all. My preferece are hybrids, and the more potent the better. Sativa dominant for day, indica dominant for night. I like dense frosty buds that are loud. I love strains such as White Widow, Blueberry, AK-47, and even more so the more modern strains such as all the OG hybrids, Green Crack and Cheese which are both Skunk 1 decendants but both completely different, etc... so your statement about people coming to Colombia and having zero interest in krippy (Colombian grown hybrid strains) does not apply to me at all, as I have only about 1% interest in the landrace sativas. That's one thing I like about Cannabis, there is a strain for everyone.

With that said, when I created this thread, I had no idea that with Red Rider's input, and my own investigation, as well as luck, would be able to reach the goal of this thread. Identifying this specific "strain" of Krippy, finding a seed in THE krippy strain I love (which RR's claim of Blue Satellite matching up), as well as getting to the origins of Krippy simply being dutch genetics from the 80s. Krippy is simply a Colombian umbrella term for high quality cannabis with a high THC content. Nothing more, nothing less, apart from the fact that it's grown in masses and exported throughout Latin America and the Carribean.

Despite all of the above factual information, there are still people, even growers who believe that Monsanto is behind this all, and that it's not natural by any means because it's "genetically modified". I guess they don't know anything about selective breeding, hybrids, or anything botanical because as virtually anyone can attest to, todays marijuana is nothing like it was in the 70s, just like carrots weren't orange back in the day, and chili peppers didn't have such extreme levels of capsaicin such as found in Ghost Peppers, Carolina Reaper, and Pepper X.

For example, Colombian Gold which was considered primo in it's day, had single digit THC%, but as Sam the Skunkman has always said, it's not hard to breed or find high THC% plants, it's finding high THC% plants with the right terpene profile. THC on it's own isn't that pleasant, but add some terps to it, and it will drastically modify the effects.

With all of that said, the goal of this thread, by miracle has been reached, but I'd like to point out one thing to everyone who has been following the thread. Grow your own plants, buy your own seeds. Most seeds available now are just as potent and tasty if not more so than Krippy, and to make matters worse, RR's claim which I've verified about 500g going for $5 USD in Cali, means that the violent and dangerous criminal organizations are making extreme profit. More so than off of cocaine. A gram of Krippy in Chile costs $5 USD. In Colombia, you'd get 500g. Think about that for a bit and how much they are making off of it, to fund who knows what, probably things that aren't good.

CASE CLOSED however PLEASE feel free to share your own experiences, pictures, etc... with Colombian Krippy. Also feel free to ask me any questions if you'd like, and I'm sure Red Rider will be happy to answer any questions you might have as well.

When I figure out what to do with my Krippy seed in regards to when and where I'll germinate it, I will make an announcement here, as well as start a grow journal. If I am fortunate enough to be gifted more of the blue satellite krippy, and find another seed, I will be giving it to Steve Tuck as he has plans to visit me in 2020.

Peace and Love,
Tetra

EDIT: TL;DR: Good news. If you want to experience modern Colombian "Krippy" and don't live in Latin America, and/or have no desire to end up unintentionally funding violent criminal organizations, all you have to do is grow a high potency dutch strain, something that virtually all of us here have grown at some point. That's your Krippy. If you want a more "authentic" experience, simply vacuum seal and/or compress to the max until it's rock hard. Also, Blue Satellite is an amazing strain, as are most of DJ Short's strains which I feel are super underrated.

 

[Elmer Bud]

Because why would Skunkman Sam, and Rob E. Clarke co-sign THE STORY from the actual people involved? And once again, are you familiar with Phylos Galaxy? Do you even know how important those two individuals are, and how much they contributed to virtually everything being smoked today? (Landrace aside)??? Not to mention Bubbleman who clearly knows his shit.

Robert Connel Clarke . R C Clarke .

 

[tetragrammaton]

Robert Connel Clarke . R. C Clarke .

Yes, I mistyped his middle initial. Big deal, you know who I'm talking about clearly.

Edit: Would you rather me refer to Skunkman as David Watson as well? Oh, but I don't know his middle name, so I guess that wouldn't satisfy you either. Your post is not useful at all to the thread except for those who might want to bombard him with questions on facebook.

 

[art.spliff]

 

[Crazy Chester]

As far as I know, the people behind the lighted grow-ops have won the battle against the power being shut off. This is not my picture, but a picture I found on one of the articles I was reading last night. These are the mountains of Cauca at night.

That's so cool - growers making some big trees with some supplemental lighting at night...

 

[hubcap]

LOL.
Beasters.
Remember that shit?
Each and everyone of those people that supplied that shit to market should be hung by their toenails.


-cap

 

[Elmer Bud]

Yes, I mistyped his middle initial. Big deal, you know who I'm talking about clearly.

Edit: Would you rather me refer to Skunkman as David Watson as well? Oh, but I don't know his middle name, so I guess that wouldn't satisfy you either. Your post is not useful at all to the thread except for those who might want to bombard him with questions on facebook.

You did it earlier in the thread as well .
1st time I thought typo .no prob . 2 nd time I thought guy needs correcting .He`s spreading incorrect info .

Now if Sam went by his given name and you consistently spelled it wrong I would be doing the same .

I think if you wanna talk like an authority you gotta get the basics like peoples names straight .