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The 2020 Presidential Election

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Ichabod Crane

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What you are unwilling to believe is that Trump doesn't have plans.... he doesn't think things out in a 'what's best for the country' type of manner, he thinks of EVERYTHING through a 'how will this benefit me' lens, period.
But if it benefits some people as well, well that's good.

He just isn't that deep of a thinker or strategist, he makes things up on the fly, that is his method.
Every post you make about Trump is twisting to try to make Trump out to be the '4d chess' hero to fit the idea you have of him in your own mind.

Man you can not really believe that. No way. That is shallow thinking for sure.

Everyone on the left thinks he is guilty of a million different crimes but for 3 years they have not been able to prove it and put him in jail. And then you go and say how stupid he is.
 
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Man you can not really believe that. No way. That is shallow thinking for sure.

Everyone on the left thinks he is guilty of a million different crimes but for 3 years they have not been able to prove it and put him in jail. And then you go and say how stupid he is.

Which part? Or all of it? :biglaugh:

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I don't think he is your classical type of 'idiot' per se, far from that actually.... he has some very special 'features'.
 

MedFaced

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G. Herbert Walker Bush

The military couldn’t keep Pat Tillman’s death a secret in a country like Afghanistan where there is almost no western presence other than military/clandestine organizations, but you believe that George killed John in Texas and no one knows or is willing to go on the record other than some conspiracy theorists author.

That’s really all you need to stake a position?

On a side not, could you detail what the CIA trained Bin Ladin on? I’m 3.5 beers in and this is getting good.
 

'Boogieman'

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This is why Trump will win. The left refuses to see that their attacks on people like this is fascism and is negatively affecting their chances in the election. This is true fascism and it is against the wrong people. Just innocent bystanders. Bystanders who will vote for Trump.

https://www.thepostmillennial.com/t...restaurant-owner-blames-antifa-for-vandalism/

From the article

"On the early hours of Wednesday morning, a security camera outside the business captured the moment four black-clad vandals sprayed “F— piss boys” and “ACAB” on the building before smashing all the windows along the side of the restaurant. “ACAB”, short for “all cops are bastards,” is often chanted at antifa protests and riots."

LOL, so it's like the gangs in Chicago except in this case it's hillbillies vs city kids.
 

Hempy McNoodle

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What you are unwilling to believe is that Trump doesn't have plans.... he doesn't think things out in a 'what's best for the country' type of manner, he thinks of EVERYTHING through a 'how will this benefit me' lens, period.
But if it benefits some people as well, well that's good.

He just isn't that deep of a thinker or strategist, he makes things up on the fly, that is his method.
Every post you make about Trump is twisting to try to make Trump out to be the '4d chess' hero to fit the idea you have of him in your own mind.



These are just baseless unintelligent statements you are making. You wouldn't know. You aren't in his head. I base my theories on perceivable patterns that show strategic intent. Everybody thinks that their enemy is stupid. Unless you are wise enough to respect your enemy. People were so foolish in fact, that they thought George W Bush "accidentally" attacked the wrong country because he's just a big stupid dummy. Democrats have no inclination for strategic thought. That is why they support neo-nazis and confederates and project those two things onto conservatives and centrists. This is also why there are fewer "conspiracy theorists" on the left. They follow authoritarian regimes. So, you wouldn't be one to notice the strategic moves trump has made because you never recognized the threat in the first place. Look at NATO. Trump is horrible because he is strategically reducing our role in NATO? LOL Trump is bad because he points out how corrupt the news media is? Orange man is stupid/bad because he doesn't trust our intelligence complex?
 

Ichabod Crane

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From the article

"On the early hours of Wednesday morning, a security camera outside the business captured the moment four black-clad vandals sprayed “F— piss boys” and “ACAB” on the building before smashing all the windows along the side of the restaurant. “ACAB”, short for “all cops are bastards,” is often chanted at antifa protests and riots."

LOL, so it's like the gangs in Chicago except in this case it's hillbillies vs city kids.

The owner didn't even know who the proud boys were but antifa decided to destroy his business. So who do you think he will vote for? The left in the city that lets these criminal thugs get away with this. I don't think so.
 
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Capra ibex

These are just baseless unintelligent statements you are making. You wouldn't know. You aren't in his head. I base my theories on perceivable patterns that show strategic intent. Everybody thinks that their enemy is stupid. Unless you are wise enough to respect your enemy. People were so foolish in fact, that they thought George W Bush "accidentally" attacked the wrong country because he's just a big stupid dummy. Democrats have no inclination for strategic thought. That is why they support neo-nazis and confederates and project those two things onto conservatives and centrists. This is also why there are fewer "conspiracy theorists" on the left. They follow authoritarian regimes. So, you wouldn't be one to notice the strategic moves trump has made because you never recognized the threat in the first place. Look at NATO. Trump is horrible because he is strategically reducing our role in NATO? LOL Trump is bad because he points out how corrupt the news media is? Orange man is stupid/bad because he doesn't trust our intelligence complex?

*yawn*

Trump is usually VERY EASY to read....

I've known he was a totally delusional d*ckhead since before the Apprentice show.... all the way back when he was a democrat.

And, i'm not even AMERICAN.
 

Hempy McNoodle

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The military couldn’t keep Pat Tillman’s death a secret in a country like Afghanistan where there is almost no western presence other than military/clandestine organizations, but you believe that George killed John in Texas and no one knows or is willing to go on the record other than some conspiracy theorists author.

That’s really all you need to stake a position?

On a side not, could you detail what the CIA trained Bin Ladin on? I’m 3.5 beers in and this is getting good.

They trained his to lead the Mujahadeen and fight the Russians in Afghanistan. This was to strategically deplete the Russian military and ultimately helped lead to a collapse of the soviet union.


Also worth noting is that the Bin Laden Family and the Bush Family and perhaps a huge swath of ruling class people were invested in a company called the Carlyle group that invested their money into a little company called Halliburton. This was not a public investment firm. And it is strange to invest in war during peace time. But, "COINCEDENTALLY" Osama Bin Laden attacked the United States and we went to war and every one got super rich. and it was never investigated.


Oh, and it was GHW Bush who lead the operation to train Osama Bin Laden to run the Mujahedeen. And it was GHW Bush who was a director of both the CIA and the Carlyle group. But, remember Trump is THE MOST CORRUPT PRESIDENT IN HISTORY. LOL
 

Hempy McNoodle

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*yawn*

Trump is usually VERY EASY to read....

I've known he was a totally delusional d*ckhead since before the Apprentice show.... all the way back when he was a democrat.

And, i'm not even AMERICAN.



If I recall correctly, the definition of intelligence is the ability to create a new understanding out of new information.
 
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Capra ibex

If I recall correctly, the definition of intelligence is the ability to create a new understanding out of new information.

Are you suggesting that Trump is a changed man?

I 'think' he was getting lowballed for another season of The Apprentice, where he plays the character of a billionaire.... maybe he was fired i can't remember, but he ran for president because he needed the attention.
 

Hempy McNoodle

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Are you suggesting that Trump is a changed man?

I 'think' he was getting lowballed for another season of The Apprentice, where he plays the character of a billionaire.... maybe he was fired i can't remember, but he ran for president because he needed the attention.



I just don't buy it. It is an assumption.


Look at all the inside info he was saying in the run up. Talking about how he can see Epstein becoming a big problem for Bill Clinton. Talking about Saudi involvement in 9/11. Saudi Arabia has a coup the day after he visits... He isn't just some blowhard. Shit is happening that was never going to have happened without Trumps administration.


So, I'm not saying he's a changed man. I'm saying his personal imperfections aren't important to me. What is important is that he is competent to pull it off. And I don't think he's the brains behind it, but I do believe he is smarter than 90% of people. He has to be. He is out smarting the most powerful interests in the world. Whether he came up with the plan or not. He is doing an exceptional job. Look at how he has done all these non traditional steps such as appointing 'acting' attorney generals and all these things. He has appointed more Judges than any other president in history to prepare for the trials which will come. Look it up, there are over 100,000 sealed indictments in the department of justice right now. There are usually like a couple thousand.
 
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Capra ibex

I just don't buy it. It is an assumption.


Look at all the inside info he was saying in the run up. Talking about how he can see Epstein becoming a big problem for Bill Clinton. Talking about Saudi involvement in 9/11. Saudi Arabia has a coup the day after he visits... He isn't just some blowhard. Shit is happening that was never going to have happened without Trumps administration.


So, I'm not saying he's a changed man. I'm saying his personal imperfections aren't important to me. What is important is that he is competent to pull it off. And I don't think he's the brains behind it, but I do believe he is smarter than 90% of people. He has to be. He is out smarting the most powerful interests in the world. Whether he came up with the plan or not. He is doing an exceptional job. Look at how he has done all these non traditional steps such as appointing 'acting' attorney generals and all these things. He has appointed more Judges than any other president in history to prepare for the trials which will come. Look it up, there are over 100,000 sealed indictments in the department of justice right now. There are usually like a couple thousand.

I think you have a good heart Hempy, as i do of most people.... but Trump is just not one of them.
Honestly, he is the huckster of all hucksters to me, and i thought that well before he was a blip on the presidential phase.
He is cunning, be he is also a complete sociopath, and you do not want to cross him, or he'll throw you under the bus faster than.... whatever.... if he thinks it will give him a ribbon to his bow.
He is 100% about ego.


People usually see what they want to see, i understand that.
It's much easier to con someone than it is to convince them that they've been conned.

Politics is messy, absolutely, but Trump saw an opportunity to get major attention and he went for it.
He has always been 'out to get people' for ridiculous narcissistic reasons, not for the greater good.

I'm not going to convince anyone of anything that they don't want to be convinced of, i don't have the energy to try.

I believe most will come out in the wash.

You have a good weekend. :ying:
 

White Beard

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Seriously Hammerhead, I think that the global deep state is the single greatest threat to mankind. And Trumps admin is the only threat to the global deep state.

I know you think the “global deep state” blah blah blah, you expressed it in many ways. I disagree with you, given the way you’ve constructed your global deep state.

I think the “global deep state” as we’ve come to loathe hearing about is a bugaboo, like “the Communist menace”, “DRUGS!!!”, “God is dead”, “international Jewry”, and “the Rothschilds”.

Do I think that there are hidden currents within our government, turning things counter to either the public will or the public good? Yep, you bet I do. I recommend you look into the life and works of James Buchanan, and the people he worked most closely with.

There are nightmares you don’t have yet. That’s plain enough.
 
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White Beard

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Don't think you understand Jello Biafra like you claim.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/...nd-up-to-trump-why-punk-still-matters-125407/

After Donald Trump won the presidential election, Jello Biafra, former Dead Kennedys frontman, fell face first onto his bed, pounding his fists and shouting, “How can people be so fucking stupid?!?” For Biafra, who has spent nearly 30 years as a leftist pundit, doing as many spoken-word appearances as punk-rock shows, Trump’s ascendancy confirms his darkest conspiracy theories about fundamentalist right-wingers taking over the world.

“I don’t think the upper 1 or 0.1 percent were ever tearing their hair out about Trump,” the 58-year-old “California Uber Alles” and “Nazi Punks Fuck Off” singer-songwriter says,

I am *SO* out of rep...but you’re worth it
 

armedoldhippy

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We should have sent some more pallets of money.

getting pretty tiresome listening to folks sneering "send them some pallets of money". somehow, they conveniently ignore the fact that IT WAS THEIR MONEY! it was in accounts frozen for some reason. was released after concerns addressed from what i have read. exactly what criteria are used to decide which groups cash we keep them from accessing? do political disagreements hit the threshold? sounds like bribery/blackmail to me.
 

Ichabod Crane

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getting pretty tiresome listening to folks sneering "send them some pallets of money". somehow, they conveniently ignore the fact that IT WAS THEIR MONEY! it was in accounts frozen for some reason. was released after concerns addressed from what i have read. exactly what criteria are used to decide which groups cash we keep them from accessing? do political disagreements hit the threshold? sounds like bribery/blackmail to me.

I get pretty tired of people who think it is OK to send the enemy boat loads of cash when they are killing people all over the middle east. Only a idiot would give someone who is bent on killing you the means to kill you.
 
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